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Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: stoneswashed77 ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:01

you don´t get the point sssoul.


stoneswolf wrote:

I wouldn't care if he at least would have done some substantial guitar contribution to the concert.

(would they cancel if Blondie couldn't play guitar?)


exactly, he is not in the leading position it´s all done by mick, charlie, chuck and the brass section.

for example bitch in frankfurt, there was only the brass section playing the song, almost no guitars.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:04

Aint this exactly the point???????????????????????????????????????????

What
is
the
meaning
of
being

Keith
@#$%&
Richards
in
this
context? smiling smiley

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:05

were you there or is that from a clip filmed on a mobile phone?

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: stoneswashed77 ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:09

if you ask me i was there yes

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Date: June 15, 2007 16:12

ablett Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "I personally felt the other night in Frankfurt
> when he was last to leave the stage and he sipped
> from his cup, lit a smoke and bantered about, that
> he was savoring the moment for himself as he may
> feel the end is nearing for him."
>
> Ever never heard so much cock n bull in my life.
>
All I meant was... Keef appeared to show a genuine appreciation for his life and his fans when he took an extra moment on stage and departed last.
I had never seen him do that before and he exuded sincere appreciation in his eyes as he savored the moment, the crowd and took it all in before he left the stage.
LONG LIVE KEEF!!!!!!!

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: $TONES$ ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:13

please take a look back in time with start me up






THIS IS HOW IT WAS

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:16

17 years ago!

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:18

Just as good!

[www.youtube.com]

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:20

>> you don´t get the point sssoul. <<

sure i do. it's you who's having trouble with MY point:
you keep posting your opinion over and over and over and over, for no (0) reason.
Keith's condition isn't a matter of opinion - it is what it is, no matter what anyone thinks/knows/believes/doesn't believe -
it's not something that we can fix by taking a vote or informing more people or winning a debate.
you've already informed everyone here what your opinion is - thanks - and you don't have to keep harping on it.
it doesn't change anything. you feel better now. so you can let it rest now, right?


... didn't think so. sigh.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: stoneswashed77 ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:23

you still don´t get the point sssoul.

the video of 1990 shows keith clearly in the leading role.
but smu in frankfurt was o.k. if the rest of the show would have been like start me up then i think you could have said it was an acceptable performance by rolling stones standard.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: $TONES$ ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:29

>> stoneswashed77 << the video of 1990 shows keith clearly in the leading role. exactly ... he's the leader of his band .. untill a few years ago but hey .. let's be happy he's still here around

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: Stoneswolf ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:31

stoneswashed77 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> you still don´t get the point sssoul.
>
> the video of 1990 shows keith clearly in the
> leading role.
> but smu in frankfurt was o.k. if the rest of the
> show would have been like start me up then i think
> you could have said it was an acceptable
> performance by rolling stones standard.

yepp, so do I. Keith played ok at the beginning adn at the end. He might missed the physical power in Frankfurt but not the generall ability to play.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:31

jaggers obviously leading in both clips....

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: stoneswashed77 ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:32

yes i am very happy about that and i am going to see him again anyway

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: Four Stone Walls ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:52

"there's a few who like to 'feel better' on this board....."

yes there are, aren't there, ablett?!

cha bu mhisde mi sin.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: stoneswashed77 ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:58

jagger is running around but he is not leading in 1990.
and yes keith missed the general ability to play.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: June 15, 2007 16:59

you bet ur ass my friend. The high res clips from IOW satisfy me. Whenever there's been a recent tour on this board out come the doom merchants.
There's no mention in the press of a failing KR's and to be perfectly honest I fear now that several individulas here will keep this critism up for the whole tour which will become VERY tedious....

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: June 15, 2007 17:02

"and yes keith missed the general ability to play."

Have you watched the clip of the same song from IOW????????

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: Ronnie58 ()
Date: June 15, 2007 17:07

Hello,

it was a wonderful evening with a great band and a fantastic crowd. The setlist was very good and we had our fun with the people who applauded to "Midnight Rambler" before it really began :-))

We sat high above the Stage and had a fantastic view. Please have a look on our photographs (about 2.2 MByte):
[www.aartalgeister.de]

If the URL does not work, try this and click on "Stones in Frankfurt" in the right window:
[www.aartalgeister.de]

Ronnie58



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-06-15 21:24 by Ronnie58.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: stoneswashed77 ()
Date: June 15, 2007 17:20

i am thankfull there is no mention in press about keith richards. i hope they get this tour finished without getting noticed too much.

ablett you seem to be in the denial corner.
i was there with you in the past. but that´s too much now.

read the threads on that board, there are so many seeing the same thing.

can you imagine die hard stonesfans writing stuff like that about lets say b2b tour.

you will not find any negativ post from me about last years european tour.
but the situation has changed dramatically.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: Bärs ()
Date: June 15, 2007 17:23

Actually they're hotter 2007 than 1990 judging from the clips, Keith included. The Frankfurt clips were good aswell.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: stoneswashed77 ()
Date: June 15, 2007 17:24

oh my, tell me what drugs you take.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: June 15, 2007 17:27

I'm not denying anything.Parts of Werchter were dreadful. But IOW was fantastic. There is an opinion on here thats going way over the top. Writing the man off, giving an opinion that he's at deaths door which I find frankly appalling

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: Mack Jigger ()
Date: June 15, 2007 17:32

ablett Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>> There's no mention in the press of a failing KR's
> and to be perfectly honest I fear now that several
> individulas here will keep this critism up for the
> whole tour which will become VERY tedious....

Don't know wich press you are talking about, but I've read several reviews about Keith's poor performances.

But I've got the impression you just won't face the truth. It's not that people don't like Keith or the Stones, they're worried and sad to see him on stage in this state of mind. If you read the posts carefully you can't talk about individuals. Actually you're the individual who's in deniel here.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: stoneswashed77 ()
Date: June 15, 2007 17:33

to me he is at death´s door. at least he is short away from not being able to go on stage. some might think is is already not able to do so. to me this is not going over the top.

everything i wrote was actually still a little censored and moderate in comparison to what i really think. i also deny a lot.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: Stoneswolf ()
Date: June 15, 2007 17:34

ablett Wrote:
> Writing the man off, giving an opinion that he's
> at deaths door which I find frankly appalling

sure we shouldn't do that. Ther is still the chance that he'll be back in a few days or weeks.
they cancel concerts if Mick really can't sing. But shhould / do they cancel concerts if Keith ain'gt complete fit!? Perhaps they assumed he was fitter.

Couldn't somebody talk how Keith was like when he was met by fans during the rehearsals?

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: YPatrick ()
Date: June 15, 2007 17:36

ablett Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> you bet ur ass my friend. The high res clips from
> IOW satisfy me. Whenever there's been a recent
> tour on this board out come the doom merchants.
> There's no mention in the press of a failing KR's
> and to be perfectly honest I fear now that several
> individulas here will keep this critism up for the
> whole tour which will become VERY tedious....

Every press review I´ve read said that Keith wasn´t looking good nor in good shape, but I admit this is all going way over the top, too much drama.
It´s a 63 year-old man who ruined his health for almost 50 years, suffers from arthritis, had a severe accident and lost his mother recently. Why wonder he´s had a few bad nights, now?
SMU from IOW looks great, indeed, and there will be more like this, I´m sure.
If he continues to play badly throughout the whole tour you can start worrying but one should give the man a break, for a change...

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: June 15, 2007 17:36

Far from denial Pal. Your missing my point. I'm saying that after only a few shows KR is being written of as being at deaths door. My concern is the scare mongering considering his apparant 'health', not the qulity of the gigs.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: stoneswashed77 ()
Date: June 15, 2007 17:48

i am talking about both things (health and quality) at the same time.
this goes hand in hand.
you always refer that all this is said after only a few shows, let´s wait and see.

o.k. we will wait and see. but what lets you think that his condition will become better and not worse. one thing is for sure it won´t stay the same condition.
which direction are you expecting from keith richards?

the only hope is that there is something he has we all don´t know that is healable and than he can recover. but i am afraid the way he is now is just how he is now.

Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: June 15, 2007 17:55

"the only hope is that there is something he has we all don´t know that is healable and than he can recover. but i am afraid the way he is now is just how he is now."

See, that totally makes my point. You have absolutely no evidence that he is ill except his playing at a gig?

You just convinced yourself that he is at deaths door.

If this was so how come IOW was such a success?

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