oldkr Wrote:
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> theyr're not doing it because they 'care' about
> you guys in europe theyre doing it because they
> care about getiing your money again and again
>
> OLDKR


Thats certainly the main factor, I'd agree. Whether its the only factor is a matter of conjecture. Guess we'll find out soon enough

Klatoo-Baratta-Niktoe


They will release the already confirmed Euro Summer dates as soon as they confirm the Fall US arena dates. They are heading back there right after Eroupe. They are just working on the Logistics. Take it to the Bank.

Gazza you need to chill man....maybe you're a little too hung up on all this...you're entitled to your opinion, and I say I'll be surprised if they tour this summer...RELAX! and yes, I am American

oldkr Wrote:
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> theyr're not doing it because they 'care' about
> you guys in europe theyre doing it because they
> care about getiing your money again and again
>
> OLDKR


Okay, I was pissed, and now I will remove the post. No need to discuss this.



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keefstheman Wrote:
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> Gazza you need to chill man....maybe you're a
> little too hung up on all this...

Nah. I just like to see my favourite band tour. Hardly a crime. Nice sidestep though.

you're entitled
> to your opinion, and I say I'll be surprised if
> they tour this summer...RELAX!

I'm not basing it on opinion or conjecture, but more on what I've been told by my own sources I'd consider to be normally good, reading local press reports about shows being scheduled in or planned for certain cities and as well as comments by people on here such as Bv, oldkr, stonesdoug who have themselves used their own sources to back up what theyre talking about. Its basic research - its not like we pick this stuff out of thin air and post stuff like "they'll tour in 2007" just for the sake of it.



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They tour because they like it. Simple as that. If you have seen them on stage then you know they love it. They have all the money they need. Mick would rather work on his film projects. Keith would like to be in his library during summer and hot places in the winter, then an odd club guest spot every few years in NYC. Charlie likes to be at home doing nothing. Ronnie wants to paint and jam with friends in London.

So why do they keep on touring? For the same reason why people drink alcohol or take drugs or have sex or stay married. Because they simply like it and get a kick of it. And they don't want to stop, because they don't know what will happen then.

Bjornulf

bv i agree apart from the end of a tour when they get cabin fever and homesick! the best time to see them is between show 5-10 of any tour/ leg after a break. Thats when the love shines thru

OLDKR

bv Wrote:
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> They tour because they like it. Simple as that. If
> you have seen them on stage then you know they
> love it. They have all the money they need. Mick
> would rather work on his film projects. Keith
> would like to be in his library during summer and
> hot places in the winter, then an odd club guest
> spot every few years in NYC. Charlie likes to be
> at home doing nothing. Ronnie wants to paint and
> jam with friends in London.
>
> So why do they keep on touring? For the same
> reason why people drink alcohol or take drugs or
> have sex or stay married. Because they simply like
> it and get a kick of it. And they don't want to
> stop, because they don't know what will happen
> then.


Best comment I've ever heared to that topic!

I think Charlie has the lowdown on it. He said, when asked if they tour for the money, that "it's part of it". Another part being that they like it and so on. So really it's like any other band (Because all bands like/want the money and all bands, apart from The Beatles, loves touring). The only difference is the much grander scale The Stones are doing it on.

JumpingKentFlash

Gazza Wrote:
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> sluissie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >> There is a lot of negativity in the general
> > opinion about the Stones: not being able to
> > perform anymore, too old, a nostalgia act.
>
> I dont know. Theres not much they can do about the
> first two in terms of declining functional ability
> and increasing age (although personally I disagree
> that at present either of those two factors are a
> serious problem - yet. They're still able to
> deliver the goods as far as I can see and hear)
>
> Theres plenty they can do to remedy the third
> accusation, however.
>
> I like your DVD-single idea.


Yeah, it would fit the Youtube-culture I suppose. I think the Stones-show is a very attractive thing to watch. They (Mick, Charlie, Ron and Keith) are all so different, which makes them very mediagenetic.

Another single-possibility:

1: Ain't too proud to beg
2: Rain Fall Down
3: Monkey Man

Hmm... I think the other two singles (page 19) would be better choices.

Jelle

BTW: For Europe 2007 (Didn't see this posted here).

Posted by Stonesdoug at Shidoobee (All credit to him).
"Looks like the Far East part of the tour is off---Europe to start beginning of June".

Direct link to the post on Shidoobee: [p081.ezboard.com]

JumpingKentFlash



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keefstheman Wrote:
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> Gazza you need to chill man....maybe you're a
> little too hung up on all this...you're entitled
> to your opinion, and I say I'll be surprised if
> they tour this summer...RELAX! and yes, I am
> American


Ya wanna bet? Keefstheman (btw - that's the only statement you've made I agree upon!), I bet 100 USD they're touring Europe this summer. Wanna bet against me?

Tralala Wrote:
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> keefstheman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gazza you need to chill man....maybe you're a
> > little too hung up on all this...you're
> entitled
> > to your opinion, and I say I'll be surprised if
> > they tour this summer...RELAX! and yes, I am
> > American
>
>
> Ya wanna bet? Keefstheman (btw - that's the only
> statement you've made I agree upon!), I bet 100
> USD they're touring Europe this summer. Wanna bet
> against me?


Know what tralala? I really don't care whether you agree with what I think/say or not. It's hard for me to believe how many people here get so bent out of shape about my feeling/opinion about a tour this summer, and how rude they can be about our differences. Some of you really need help...(btw..not a gambler, so save your money)

I'm really not a gambler, either. But I know there will be a tour. And now I am convinced you do, too. Or else you would have had the guts to bet against me. But I like a bit of temperature on the board, so just go on, keefstheman. Keep on denying. I think it's very sweet.

Well then, I'm glad I'm making you happy...

LOL!

The best time to see them on tour is every show. Every single show. I have been following entire tours and I know exactly how they work show by show. They are like a football or ice hockey team. They have a curve. Like during LICKS that curve was peaking one time as they came into NYC and soon after Hartford. They have ups and downs like any other normal person. But the level is usually very high. Some times they are winning for weeks, every single show is just fantastic. And when they are peaking, like in Vienna, San Diego, Wichita, Buenos Aires or wherever they get the perfect match between the band, the venue and the crowd, then you are in heaven. It might not be the first show, it might not be the last show, but those are the shows you will remember for the rest of your life. And all those shows in-between, they are just as great. I can't wait to see them again!

Bjornulf

Spoken like a true addict. Great answer BV

bv Wrote:
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> The best time to see them on tour is every show.
> Every single show. ......
And all those shows in-between, they are
> just as great. I can't wait to see them again!

I agree, bv.

But what do I know, seen them only four times

Till 2007

RollingStonesFan Wrote:
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> bv Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They tour because they like it. Simple as that.
> If
> > you have seen them on stage then you know they
> > love it. They have all the money they need.
> Mick
> > would rather work on his film projects. Keith
> > would like to be in his library during summer
> and
> > hot places in the winter, then an odd club
> guest
> > spot every few years in NYC. Charlie likes to
> be
> > at home doing nothing. Ronnie wants to paint
> and
> > jam with friends in London.
> >
> > So why do they keep on touring? For the same
> > reason why people drink alcohol or take drugs
> or
> > have sex or stay married. Because they simply
> like
> > it and get a kick of it. And they don't want to
> > stop, because they don't know what will happen
> > then.
>
>
> Best comment I've ever heared to that topic!


Agreed

Rolling Stones Tribute

Play Rolling Stones

Hi there,

Wonder if anyone has any idea as to whether they will play Barcelona in 2007 and if so when.

I purchased tickets for the show in May 2006 for myself and my 2 boys but of course it was cancelled due to Keef's accident. Would love to see them in Barca because I've heard the atmosphere in Spain is amazing. Does anyone think I would get preference because I bought tickets for the gig last year?

I also agree with bv, it becomes an obsession for them as it does for us!

stonesrick Wrote:
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> Hi there,
>
> Wonder if anyone has any idea as to whether they
> will play Barcelona in 2007 and if so when.

[iorr.org] - see entry dated January 1st.
No date known yet. probably in June.

>
> I purchased tickets for the show in May 2006 for
> myself and my 2 boys but of course it was
> cancelled due to Keef's accident. Would love to
> see them in Barca because I've heard the
> atmosphere in Spain is amazing. Does anyone think
> I would get preference because I bought tickets
> for the gig last year?

No. The show was cancelled and refunds were given, so I would imagine everyone will be back to square one again. As the event was cancelled, I cant see how they could get around that by giving previous buyers preferential treatment

Spain is on top of their list, as they missed all four planned shows last year.

Bjornulf

I wanna see the lot this time around. Since it could be the last time. (As I said in '89/90)...

bv Wrote:
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> Spain is on top of their list, as they missed all
> four planned shows last year.

Bjornulf, do you have a family and a full time job? How can you afford all the travel and tickets and accommodation. Remember, if they play Seattle you can bunk in my sitting room!!!

"The wonder of Jimi Hendrix was that he could stand up at all he was so pumped full of drugs." Patsy, Patsy Stone

stonesrick Wrote:
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Would love to
> see them in Barca because I've heard the
> atmosphere in Spain is amazing.

Indeed it is.

Does anyone think
> I would get preference because I bought tickets
> for the gig last year?

No,but there is plenty of time for buying new tickts when they are on sale. No need to panic. That's one thing I've learned from this tour.

> I also agree with bv, it becomes an obsession for
> them as it does for us!

Well, most of us (Forbes incl.) think there is another major reason for touring.

Money beats soul?

I think whether a person believes the tour
is all about the money (po-ro-ro-ro-dom-dom)
or concern about the fans... says more about that very person
than about anything else.

Remember: Its the same Jagger who initiated Altamont,
a free concert. hopefully he has leanred something.

I also hope Bucharest will be such a huge success as Rio was.

I agree. But didn't the free Altamont idea come about because people had been complaining about high ticket prices?! (so what's new...)

Buy then I'm pretty sure the high prices were way off the bands control.

Don't get me wrong! I don't mind them earning lots of money of course. They worked hard for it and they were lucky to be talented and being at the right place at the right time.
IMO it is just silly saying that they are not doing it for the money nowadays. That's all. I hope they will keep doing it as long as they can.