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Indeed, the most disappointing new-material-disc, so far. And that horrible Drift Away....
Meanwhile the Exile disc had some stinkers, it had some excellent ones as well.

But it also goes to show that the best we can hope for now is some 1970s live shows. And that would be terrific, Brussels Affair, Chalk Farms Roundhouse, Leeds 71 in stereo, LA Friday...phew those are all played many times over here. And they have so much to chose from

Still, I never could understand why I Need You was on any of their releases. And that was alllready finished, didn't need any overdubbing.

Travelling Man is excellent too, allthough it needs some serious editing.

also hillside blues, cellophane trousers, i love ladies, munich reggae, the untitled instrumental from the exile sessions

and all the shows they recorded between 72 and 79

plus all them abcko goodies

who really knows what lies in there 60's vaults

Cellophane Trousers got released in 1983.

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Japanese SHM-platinum CD [UICY-40002]

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Indeed, the most disappointing new-material-disc, so far. And that horrible Drift Away....
Meanwhile the Exile disc had some stinkers, it had some excellent ones as well.

But it also goes to show that the best we can hope for now is some 1970s live shows. And that would be terrific, Brussels Affair, Chalk Farms Roundhouse, Leeds 71 in stereo, LA Friday...phew those are all played many times over here. And they have so much to chose from

Still, I never could understand why I Need You was on any of their releases. And that was alllready finished, didn't need any overdubbing.

Travelling Man is excellent too, allthough it needs some serious editing.

also hillside blues, cellophane trousers, i love ladies, munich reggae, the untitled instrumental from the exile sessions

and all the shows they recorded between 72 and 79

plus all them abcko goodies

who really knows what lies in there 60's vaults

Cellophane Trousers got released in 1983.

i was unaware of that

thanks

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Japanese SHM-platinum CD [UICY-40002]

ohhh!

me want

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Japanese SHM-platinum CD [UICY-40002]

ohhh!

me want

Yes. Flat transfer. And probably the fanciest edition of them all. Short version of Slave, though (which is no big deal for me). Main problem - it is out of print for a couple of years and is kind of expensive on the second hand market. This one is still in print and can be ordered from cdjapan [UICY-79247].
[www.cdjapan.co.jp]


It is digital clone to [UICY-40002] (prepared from the same glass master), but no platinum and less fancy packed.

However, always keep in mind
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Which is the one that has "Start Me Up" on it? Is that TATTOO YOU? Side two is great; "I'm Just Waiting On A Friend" and all that. It's too bad it sounds like it was recorded in a PlayDough Fun Factory...
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Steve Hoffman .

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So..........which SHM CD sounds the best? I was disappointed by the recent release. I don't want to spend the extra for a SHMC CD if it's taken from the 'Deluxe' set. The recent GHS SHM CD sounds fantastic.

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Indeed, the most disappointing new-material-disc, so far. And that horrible Drift Away....
Meanwhile the Exile disc had some stinkers, it had some excellent ones as well.

But it also goes to show that the best we can hope for now is some 1970s live shows. And that would be terrific, Brussels Affair, Chalk Farms Roundhouse, Leeds 71 in stereo, LA Friday...phew those are all played many times over here. And they have so much to chose from

Still, I never could understand why I Need You was on any of their releases. And that was alllready finished, didn't need any overdubbing.

Travelling Man is excellent too, allthough it needs some serious editing.

also hillside blues, cellophane trousers, i love ladies, munich reggae, the untitled instrumental from the exile sessions

and all the shows they recorded between 72 and 79

plus all them abcko goodies

who really knows what lies in there 60's vaults

Cellophane Trousers got released in 1983.

i was unaware of that

thanks

With a new title, though: Too Tough

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Erik_Snow
Indeed, the most disappointing new-material-disc, so far. And that horrible Drift Away....
Meanwhile the Exile disc had some stinkers, it had some excellent ones as well.

But it also goes to show that the best we can hope for now is some 1970s live shows. And that would be terrific, Brussels Affair, Chalk Farms Roundhouse, Leeds 71 in stereo, LA Friday...phew those are all played many times over here. And they have so much to chose from

Still, I never could understand why I Need You was on any of their releases. And that was alllready finished, didn't need any overdubbing.

Travelling Man is excellent too, allthough it needs some serious editing.

also hillside blues, cellophane trousers, i love ladies, munich reggae, the untitled instrumental from the exile sessions

and all the shows they recorded between 72 and 79

plus all them abcko goodies

who really knows what lies in there 60's vaults

Cellophane Trousers got released in 1983.

i was unaware of that

thanks

With a new title, though: Too Tough

LOL I was waiting to see if that was figured out by ProfessorWolf!

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Japanese SHM-platinum CD [UICY-40002]

ohhh!

me want

Yes. Flat transfer. And probably the fanciest edition of them all. Short version of Slave, though (which is no big deal for me). Main problem - it is out of print for a couple of years and is kind of expensive on the second hand market. This one is still in print and can be ordered from cdjapan [UICY-79247].
[www.cdjapan.co.jp]


It is digital clone to [UICY-40002] (prepared from the same glass master), but no platinum and less fancy packed.

However, always keep in mind
_____
Which is the one that has "Start Me Up" on it? Is that TATTOO YOU? Side two is great; "I'm Just Waiting On A Friend" and all that. It's too bad it sounds like it was recorded in a PlayDough Fun Factory...
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Steve Hoffman .

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Indeed, the most disappointing new-material-disc, so far. And that horrible Drift Away....
Meanwhile the Exile disc had some stinkers, it had some excellent ones as well.

But it also goes to show that the best we can hope for now is some 1970s live shows. And that would be terrific, Brussels Affair, Chalk Farms Roundhouse, Leeds 71 in stereo, LA Friday...phew those are all played many times over here. And they have so much to chose from

Still, I never could understand why I Need You was on any of their releases. And that was alllready finished, didn't need any overdubbing.

Travelling Man is excellent too, allthough it needs some serious editing.

also hillside blues, cellophane trousers, i love ladies, munich reggae, the untitled instrumental from the exile sessions

and all the shows they recorded between 72 and 79

plus all them abcko goodies

who really knows what lies in there 60's vaults

Cellophane Trousers got released in 1983.

i was unaware of that

thanks

With a new title, though: Too Tough

LOL I was waiting to see if that was figured out by ProfessorWolf!

ha you got me there i should have known that i've read it before but just didn't remember until dandelion pointed it out

still i believe that the original outtake could be reworked by mick into something new and interesting like the "reggae" version of start me up off l&f that many on here liked me included

maybe he could do it as a reimagining of too tough or an entirely new song

it would sure be cool on the black and blue bonus disc bruised and abused

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Indeed, the most disappointing new-material-disc, so far. And that horrible Drift Away....
Meanwhile the Exile disc had some stinkers, it had some excellent ones as well.

But it also goes to show that the best we can hope for now is some 1970s live shows. And that would be terrific, Brussels Affair, Chalk Farms Roundhouse, Leeds 71 in stereo, LA Friday...phew those are all played many times over here. And they have so much to chose from

Still, I never could understand why I Need You was on any of their releases. And that was alllready finished, didn't need any overdubbing.

Travelling Man is excellent too, allthough it needs some serious editing.

also hillside blues, cellophane trousers, i love ladies, munich reggae, the untitled instrumental from the exile sessions

and all the shows they recorded between 72 and 79

plus all them abcko goodies

who really knows what lies in there 60's vaults

Cellophane Trousers got released in 1983.

i was unaware of that

thanks

With a new title, though: Too Tough

LOL I was waiting to see if that was figured out by ProfessorWolf!

ha you got me there i should have known that i've read it before but just didn't remember until dandelion pointed it out

still i believe that the original outtake could be reworked by mick into something new and interesting like the "reggae" version of start me up off l&f that many on here liked me included

maybe he could do it as a reimagining of too tough or an entirely new song

it would sure be cool on the black and blue bonus disc bruised and abused

Cellophane Trousers/Too Tough aside, there has been talk for decades that Start Me Up originated during the 1975 sessions for BLACK AND BLUE, which would've, apparently, occurred in January or February of 1975. Yet nothing has ever been mentioned of such a thing except by... probably doesn't matter now.

Although "we" don't all know it, "we" should at this point - the TATTOO YOU version is from 1977 bottoms wise. 2 years later they worked on Neighbours, Hang Fire, No Use In Crying, Let Me Go, Heaven, Down In A Hole, Let Me Go and It's A Lie, among quite a few others.

Imagine if they'd left off Star Star for...

We get what we get, actual time lines be damned!

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Indeed, the most disappointing new-material-disc, so far. And that horrible Drift Away....
Meanwhile the Exile disc had some stinkers, it had some excellent ones as well.

But it also goes to show that the best we can hope for now is some 1970s live shows. And that would be terrific, Brussels Affair, Chalk Farms Roundhouse, Leeds 71 in stereo, LA Friday...phew those are all played many times over here. And they have so much to chose from

Still, I never could understand why I Need You was on any of their releases. And that was alllready finished, didn't need any overdubbing.

Travelling Man is excellent too, allthough it needs some serious editing.

also hillside blues, cellophane trousers, i love ladies, munich reggae, the untitled instrumental from the exile sessions

and all the shows they recorded between 72 and 79

plus all them abcko goodies

who really knows what lies in there 60's vaults

Cellophane Trousers got released in 1983.

i was unaware of that

thanks

With a new title, though: Too Tough

LOL I was waiting to see if that was figured out by ProfessorWolf!

ha you got me there i should have known that i've read it before but just didn't remember until dandelion pointed it out

still i believe that the original outtake could be reworked by mick into something new and interesting like the "reggae" version of start me up off l&f that many on here liked me included

maybe he could do it as a reimagining of too tough or an entirely new song

it would sure be cool on the black and blue bonus disc bruised and abused

Cellophane Trousers/Too Tough aside, there has been talk for decades that Start Me Up originated during the 1975 sessions for BLACK AND BLUE, which would've, apparently, occurred in January or February of 1975. Yet nothing has ever been mentioned of such a thing except by... probably doesn't matter now.

Although "we" don't all know it, "we" should at this point - the TATTOO YOU version is from 1977 bottoms wise. 2 years later they worked on Neighbours, Hang Fire, No Use In Crying, Let Me Go, Heaven, Down In A Hole, Let Me Go and It's A Lie, among quite a few others.

Imagine if they'd left off Star Star for...

We get what we get, actual time lines be damned!

let complete that thought for ya

Imagine if they'd left off Star Star for... criss cross and star star was left as a finished outtake that never leaked and was released on the deluxe ghs or ty for the first time

ah but then half of the people on here would've hated it

chuck berry rip off yada yada, too vulgar blah blah, stones by the numbers etc.

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Indeed, the most disappointing new-material-disc, so far. And that horrible Drift Away....
Meanwhile the Exile disc had some stinkers, it had some excellent ones as well.

But it also goes to show that the best we can hope for now is some 1970s live shows. And that would be terrific, Brussels Affair, Chalk Farms Roundhouse, Leeds 71 in stereo, LA Friday...phew those are all played many times over here. And they have so much to chose from

Still, I never could understand why I Need You was on any of their releases. And that was alllready finished, didn't need any overdubbing.

Travelling Man is excellent too, allthough it needs some serious editing.

also hillside blues, cellophane trousers, i love ladies, munich reggae, the untitled instrumental from the exile sessions

and all the shows they recorded between 72 and 79

plus all them abcko goodies

who really knows what lies in there 60's vaults

Cellophane Trousers got released in 1983.

i was unaware of that

thanks

With a new title, though: Too Tough

LOL I was waiting to see if that was figured out by ProfessorWolf!

ha you got me there i should have known that i've read it before but just didn't remember until dandelion pointed it out

still i believe that the original outtake could be reworked by mick into something new and interesting like the "reggae" version of start me up off l&f that many on here liked me included

maybe he could do it as a reimagining of too tough or an entirely new song

it would sure be cool on the black and blue bonus disc bruised and abused

Cellophane Trousers/Too Tough aside, there has been talk for decades that Start Me Up originated during the 1975 sessions for BLACK AND BLUE, which would've, apparently, occurred in January or February of 1975. Yet nothing has ever been mentioned of such a thing except by... probably doesn't matter now.

Although "we" don't all know it, "we" should at this point - the TATTOO YOU version is from 1977 bottoms wise. 2 years later they worked on Neighbours, Hang Fire, No Use In Crying, Let Me Go, Heaven, Down In A Hole, Let Me Go and It's A Lie, among quite a few others.

Imagine if they'd left off Star Star for...

We get what we get, actual time lines be damned!

let complete that thought for ya

Imagine if they'd left off Star Star for... criss cross and star star was left as a finished outtake that never leaked and was released on the deluxe ghs or ty for the first time

ah but then half of the people on here would've hated it

chuck berry rip off yada yada, too vulgar blah blah, stones by the numbers etc.

LOL I was steering towards if Star Star went on TATTOO YOU (and yeah, Criss Cross on SOUP). That would've been 3 SOUP leftovers!

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I had originally got the two disc version of the new Tattoo You release from my local library. I was surprised I didn't at least download the bonus CD disc into my ITunes. I thought maybe it was an oversight, and that I took it back without thinking about it.

I checked it out again and listened to the bonus disc. Now I know. It's the weakest of them all. I would only consider listening again to Shame, Shame, Shame, the reggae version of Start Me Up, and maybe Fast Talking, Slow Walking. They seemed to have put very little effort into this. The booklet barely mentions who played what. There are no bass attributions, and I doubt Bill played on every cut.

It's almost as if Mick can't be bothered with these tracks anymore. Either that or they've indeed scraped the barrel and there isn't that much left in the vault.

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I had originally got the two disc version of the new Tattoo You release from my local library. I was surprised I didn't at least download the bonus CD disc into my ITunes. I thought maybe it was an oversight, and that I took it back without thinking about it.

I checked it out again and listened to the bonus disc. Now I know. It's the weakest of them all. I would only consider listening again to Shame, Shame, Shame, the reggae version of Start Me Up, and maybe Fast Talking, Slow Walking. They seemed to have put very little effort into this. The booklet barely mentions who played what. There are no bass attributions, and I doubt Bill played on every cut.

It's almost as if Mick can't be bothered with these tracks anymore. Either that or they've indeed scraped the barrel and there isn't that much left in the vault.

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I had originally got the two disc version of the new Tattoo You release from my local library. I was surprised I didn't at least download the bonus CD disc into my ITunes. I thought maybe it was an oversight, and that I took it back without thinking about it.

I checked it out again and listened to the bonus disc. Now I know. It's the weakest of them all. I would only consider listening again to Shame, Shame, Shame, the reggae version of Start Me Up, and maybe Fast Talking, Slow Walking. They seemed to have put very little effort into this. The booklet barely mentions who played what. There are no bass attributions, and I doubt Bill played on every cut.

It's almost as if Mick can't be bothered with these tracks anymore. Either that or they've indeed scraped the barrel and there isn't that much left in the vault.

There's still a lot leftover that has been ignored, whether it's for the TATTOO YOU reissue, which nothing was recorded for by the band, or the SOME GIRLS reissue.

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If Bill plays on most of it, he'll be happy

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I had originally got the two disc version of the new Tattoo You release from my local library. I was surprised I didn't at least download the bonus CD disc into my ITunes. I thought maybe it was an oversight, and that I took it back without thinking about it.

I checked it out again and listened to the bonus disc. Now I know. It's the weakest of them all. I would only consider listening again to Shame, Shame, Shame, the reggae version of Start Me Up, and maybe Fast Talking, Slow Walking. They seemed to have put very little effort into this. The booklet barely mentions who played what. There are no bass attributions, and I doubt Bill played on every cut.

It's almost as if Mick can't be bothered with these tracks anymore. Either that or they've indeed scraped the barrel and there isn't that much left in the vault.

There's still a lot leftover that has been ignored, whether it's for the TATTOO YOU reissue, which nothing was recorded for by the band, or the SOME GIRLS reissue.

There's surely a lot leftover that has been ignored, but we should be aware that there's no unreleased stuff of Gimme Shelter, JJF or, let's say, Ruby Tuesday quality still in the vaults - leftovers are leftovers for a reason, and if someone like 24FPS is disappointed with the Tattoo You bonus disc, he will most likely be disappointed with any further archive release of unreleased studio recordings.

An area they have only recently touched with the GHS bonus disc is the potentially vast array of alternate & working versions of released songs - there might be a truckload of material there that could be more satisfying to listen to than some failed attempts to turn unreleased songs or even rough song sketches like I Love Ladies and the like into something releasable.

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If Bill plays on most of it, he'll be happy

True. I even liked his marimba playing on 'Don't Be A Stranger'.

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I had originally got the two disc version of the new Tattoo You release from my local library. I was surprised I didn't at least download the bonus CD disc into my ITunes. I thought maybe it was an oversight, and that I took it back without thinking about it.

I checked it out again and listened to the bonus disc. Now I know. It's the weakest of them all. I would only consider listening again to Shame, Shame, Shame, the reggae version of Start Me Up, and maybe Fast Talking, Slow Walking. They seemed to have put very little effort into this. The booklet barely mentions who played what. There are no bass attributions, and I doubt Bill played on every cut.

It's almost as if Mick can't be bothered with these tracks anymore. Either that or they've indeed scraped the barrel and there isn't that much left in the vault.

There's still a lot leftover that has been ignored, whether it's for the TATTOO YOU reissue, which nothing was recorded for by the band, or the SOME GIRLS reissue.

There's surely a lot leftover that has been ignored, but we should be aware that there's no unreleased stuff of Gimme Shelter, JJF or, let's say, Ruby Tuesday quality still in the vaults - leftovers are leftovers for a reason, and if someone like 24FPS is disappointed with the Tattoo You bonus disc, he will most likely be disappointed with any further archive release of unreleased studio recordings.

An area they have only recently touched with the GHS bonus disc is the potentially vast array of alternate & working versions of released songs - there might be a truckload of material there that could be more satisfying to listen to than some failed attempts to turn unreleased songs or even rough song sketches like I Love Ladies and the like into something releasable.

I don't know if that's true. I've liked the bonus releases so far, from EOMS through GHS. Some of them were great songs that simply didn't fit the tone of the album they were making. I understand that TY was cobbled together from different eras, their first archive release really, with a few new ones thrown in. I just didn't get that feeling this time, like I was hearing the great Rolling Stones again, with something novel.