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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: February 23, 2023 13:39

I am still a bit puzzled on Brian's sound oon the RnR Circus. Was he really meant to sound like this? Wasn't this a technical glitch the only found out about during play-back? Could this be part of the reason they didn't like the recording and shelved it for 35 years?

I mean, they spent two days rehearsing and recording, for sure the engineer, the producer, or the Stones would have said to Brian his sound was way off, his microphone broken or whatever? According to Bill Wyman the Circus was incredibly expensive, and then you end up with the guitarist sounding like this?

Mathijs

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 23, 2023 13:51

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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Date: February 23, 2023 14:27

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Mathijs
I am still a bit puzzled on Brian's sound oon the RnR Circus. Was he really meant to sound like this? Wasn't this a technical glitch the only found out about during play-back? Could this be part of the reason they didn't like the recording and shelved it for 35 years?

I mean, they spent two days rehearsing and recording, for sure the engineer, the producer, or the Stones would have said to Brian his sound was way off, his microphone broken or whatever? According to Bill Wyman the Circus was incredibly expensive, and then you end up with the guitarist sounding like this?

Mathijs

Sounds like he forgot to turn the treble on on his guitar.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 27, 2023 15:04

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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Date: February 27, 2023 15:10

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DandelionPowderman
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Mathijs
I am still a bit puzzled on Brian's sound oon the RnR Circus. Was he really meant to sound like this? Wasn't this a technical glitch the only found out about during play-back? Could this be part of the reason they didn't like the recording and shelved it for 35 years?

I mean, they spent two days rehearsing and recording, for sure the engineer, the producer, or the Stones would have said to Brian his sound was way off, his microphone broken or whatever? According to Bill Wyman the Circus was incredibly expensive, and then you end up with the guitarist sounding like this?

Mathijs

Sounds like he forgot to turn the treble on on his guitar.

Simple as that. Strange he or they didn't notice it on the spot.



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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 27, 2023 15:19

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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Date: February 27, 2023 15:27

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His Majesty
Maybe it's intentional. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out It is only like that on two songs.

That would be interesting. Maybe it took Brian two songs to notice it .cool smiley

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 27, 2023 15:57

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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Date: February 27, 2023 16:15

Whatever happened, it works perfectly well -after giving it another listen.



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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Kingbeebuzz ()
Date: February 28, 2023 14:21

Question for His Majesty.............your 23rd February post above shows a very good video about Brian called The End.

It plays a version of No Expectations, in good quality sound, with clearly different lyrics (from the offical BB version) that I have never heard before.

Could you please give any info you have on this track and if you have the complete version to post .......please do.

I have only ever heard one out take of No Expectations with Brian, the one with the talking at the start, if there are any other takes available I would love to hear them before I pass away.

Many thanks

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 28, 2023 14:38

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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: LieB ()
Date: February 28, 2023 21:42

Thanks for all your great analyses about Brian's contributions! It's always interesting and great fun to read, still after all these years of Stones listening.

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: March 1, 2023 02:32

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LieB
Thanks for all your great analyses about Brian's contributions! It's always interesting and great fun to read, still after all these years of Stones listening.

My sentiments as well. It is great to have clarity to many things surrounding Brian's contribution to the Stones. You know, what he actually did.

- Doxa

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Date: March 1, 2023 23:31

I shouldn't drink when I post.



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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: March 3, 2023 18:31

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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Date: March 3, 2023 19:36

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His Majesty
As a follow up to my Rock and Roll Circus posts, here's two alternate takes of Parachute Woman and You Can't Always Get What You Want.

Brian played near enough the same exact guitar parts as he did for the officially released takes. I've added my 'essentials of' demonstrations as ear guides.

Parachute Woman





Good rendition. A pity Brian didn't play slide on this.



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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: March 4, 2023 04:29

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TheflyingDutchman
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His Majesty
As a follow up to my Rock and Roll Circus posts, here's two alternate takes of Parachute Woman and You Can't Always Get What You Want.

Brian played near enough the same exact guitar parts as he did for the officially released takes. I've added my 'essentials of' demonstrations as ear guides.

Parachute Woman





Good rendition. A pity Brian didn't play slide on this.
Does Brian play guitar on the studio version?

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: March 4, 2023 17:43

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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: March 25, 2023 14:41

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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 25, 2023 18:40

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His Majesty
The Rolling Stones - Ruby Tuesday - Hyde Park, London - July 2013:





Ruby Tuesday is my favourite Rolling Stones song, studio recording and features my favourite recorded performance and contribution by Brian Jones.

The Rolling Stones - 'Sweet Summer Sun' DVD features a great live performance of Ruby Tuesday. One of the things that I love about this particular performance is Tim Ries's interpretation of Brian's original recorder melodies, but played on soprano saxophone. All very connected as soprano saxophone was a favourite instrument of Brian's in the last 2 years of his life.

For me, Tim played wonderfully, capturing some of the emotion of the original recording, Brian's performance, and beautifully projecting the sense of loss and wonder that relates to the song itself, but also to Brian Jones, the creator of those beautiful melodic lines.

Thank you Tim.



Photo: Lourdes Delgado.

That is just a fabulous live version...thanks for sharing HM

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: April 6, 2023 17:50

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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: April 6, 2023 18:55

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His Majesty
Brian Jones interviewed by André Heller - Ö3 Radio, Vienna, Austria - September 1968.





Photo 1: Brian and Suki in Vienna with an award from Ö3 radio station for Jumpin' Jack Flash being top of the Ö3 disc parade. Courtesy of Interfoto.



Photo 2-3: The Ö3 award for Jumpin' Jack Flash. Courtesy of Susanne Stadler.

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From this interview he sounds like he was still involved in the recordings with the band.He sounds intelligent and that he was not so messed up that he couldn’t have gotten himself together had he lived.He was only in his twenties when he died.I think Mick and Keith exaggerate how messed up his when he died as if it was inevitable..Maybe they felt guilty for firing him and then him dying a month later



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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Date: April 6, 2023 23:37

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Taylor1
He Also sounds intelligent and that he was not so messed up that he couldn’t have gotten himself together had he lived.

He spoke German very well, if it's Brian. I do think so.





Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: April 7, 2023 19:04

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Taylor1
From this interview he sounds like he was still involved in the recordings with the band.He sounds intelligent and that he was not so messed up that he couldn’t have gotten himself together had he lived.He was only in his twenties when he died.I think Mick and Keith exaggerate how messed up his when he died as if it was inevitable..Maybe they felt guilty for firing him and then him dying a month later

He speaks slow, looking for words. Certainly not the eloquent and intelligent Brian of a couple years earlier.

When he died he had a heavily enlarged liver. You know how much drink and drugs you must do that get an enlarged liver at 27 years old?

Mathijs

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: April 11, 2023 18:52

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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: April 18, 2023 18:45

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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: April 20, 2023 13:51

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Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: April 27, 2023 02:06

Is it true Brian went all the way to the Monterey Festival just to introduce Hendrix to the audience.And was there ever a thought of him playing at the concert

Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Date: April 27, 2023 03:34

RIP Brian Jones. †




Re: The Brian Jones Resource - A companion to musician Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: April 27, 2023 15:29

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