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That’s why I’m getting a refund and going to McCartney
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ROPENI
If you read between the lines,in what BV is saying,l don't think there will be a tour this year,and actually this may be the end,glad l got my refund for the Miami show....
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That is why the task of rescheduling is complicated.
What are actually the drawbacks of rescheduling the whole Tour simply to 2020 - same venues, same date range?
The ticket buyers purchased tickets for a tour and shows in April/May/June 2019. If the "product purchased" i.e. the entire tour would be rescheduled for 12 months then I would assume there are a few challenges related to that, like holding on to customer money i.e. approx 150 million us dollars for an extra year, and so on.
Yep, this is the biggest issue I think with rescheduling to 2020. The average fan is likely to cash in on their refund, and well I'm sure they would sell well if they put those refunded tickets back on sale at a later date, it's a risk to have to refund resale tickets, premium tickets, and even some of the more expensive face value tickets due to postponing a full year, if that were to happen.
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Even if the doctors were to clear Mick today, he'd be wise to spend a month or two of daily jogging at his previous pace. Nobody wants him to discover a few weeks into a tour that he hasn't recovered the stamina required for a tour. We don't want him to be sitting on a stool on the corner of the stage, softly humming our favorite tunes. Mick needs to run around the stage and runways while singing his lungs out for two hours.
I get the impression that some people want him on stage, even if he has to sing from a hospital bed.
I have been thinking about this. Sooner or later, the Stones shows have got to change or they have to call it a day. Mick is 75 and he's running around like an 18-year-old on stage. We don't expect football players to keep playing until they are 75. The Stones are going to be in their 80s in the next decade. I would rather see them on stage with a slowed down blues show, than not at all! It doesnt have to be the constant running around imho. Nobody their age does that.
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But jumpontopofmebaby said this was a no brainer. Schedules wide open at all venues and shows easily rescheduled.
Really? Assuming the crew has nothing else booked for the rest of the year, and all five star hotels are wide open and available on all possible dates, also crew hotels, band appointments and so on? Nothing is a "no brainer" here, I think.
I am with you BV. For the reasons you have noted. I was just following up on earlier thread comments.
Some people are clueless to what it take to put on a tour.
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What are actually the drawbacks of rescheduling the whole Tour simply to 2020 - same venues, same date range?
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What are actually the drawbacks of rescheduling the whole Tour simply to 2020 - same venues, same date range?
Actuary tables come to mind. With each passing year the odds increase - and never decrease - that SOMETHING insurmountable will happen to the band that rules out any further touring. Aside from that, it would be grossly abusive not to issue full refunds in the meantime if they do take this unlikely approach.
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That’s why I’m getting a refund and going to McCartney
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What are actually the drawbacks of rescheduling the whole Tour simply to 2020 - same venues, same date range?
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If you read between the lines,in what BV is saying,l don't think there will be a tour this year,and actually this may be the end,glad l got my refund for the Miami show....
Nah.
He's saying it's monumentally difficult and the longer before an announcement the less likely one is coming..
for this tour.
If this tour ends up canceled for any reason other than Mick's health, you can bet they'll schedule the next one asap. Mick isn't going to let this be the reason they stop if he's healthy. They'll keep playing, it's what they do
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MononoM
I got flights, hotels, traveling etc. booked for may 30 - june 9 (Washington, Philadelphia and Foxboro). I can cancel a lot now and got some refunds.. I can also change bookings (if I know the new tour dates in time...).
What is best to do now: cancel everything (love the album btw)), or just wait...
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glmmr_twn
Football season, fall weather, it's not going to be easy. You can't expect crew to put their schedules on hold for the rest of the year. They need a paycheck too.
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Football season, fall weather, it's not going to be easy. You can't expect crew to put their schedules on hold for the rest of the year. They need a paycheck too.
That's why I had asked about 2020. "Everything" is already scheduled for 2019, but for 2020 there would be a new chance ....
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Football season, fall weather, it's not going to be easy. You can't expect crew to put their schedules on hold for the rest of the year. They need a paycheck too.
That's why I had asked about 2020. "Everything" is already scheduled for 2019, but for 2020 there would be a new chance ....
Perhaps they already have plans for another tour in 2020?
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The rescheduled dates are already in place for late summer/early fall. The only thing they are waiting on before they can make an announcement is for Mick to get the green light from his medical team. If they weren't planning to tour this year they would have already said this by now. Most of the tour crew is available as this was to be a late spring/early summer tour so many of them are probably not booked for another major summer tour. If so, they can either switch places with someone to be with the Stones or be replaced. Other logistics such as hotels, transportation, immigration, etc will all be taken care of. This is the Rolling Stones after all. They know how to arrange these things!
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Football season, fall weather, it's not going to be easy. You can't expect crew to put their schedules on hold for the rest of the year. They need a paycheck too.
That's why I had asked about 2020. "Everything" is already scheduled for 2019, but for 2020 there would be a new chance ....
Perhaps they already have plans for another tour in 2020?
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Football season, fall weather, it's not going to be easy. You can't expect crew to put their schedules on hold for the rest of the year. They need a paycheck too.
That's why I had asked about 2020. "Everything" is already scheduled for 2019, but for 2020 there would be a new chance ....
Perhaps they already have plans for another tour in 2020?
South America.
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Football season, fall weather, it's not going to be easy. You can't expect crew to put their schedules on hold for the rest of the year. They need a paycheck too.
That's why I had asked about 2020. "Everything" is already scheduled for 2019, but for 2020 there would be a new chance ....
Perhaps they already have plans for another tour in 2020?
South America.
Or: Asia / Oceania.
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Chris Fountain
Well I have Lucky Dip but I feel for the fans that had to give up flights, and other travel plans. It must be really tough on those who scramble every day just to make ends meet.
Maybe some type of refund could be issued without giving up the tickets.
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Rollin92
Hoping they reschedule for next year and chuck some London shows in