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keefriff99I've noticed that twitchiness too, but I put it down to him just being off everything and have a lot of nervous energy to burn off.Quote
stone4ever
What makes you suspicious of Ronnie? He appears as if he's finally gotten to a good place in his life.
Well i'm not convinced he does take something, its just he seem's so energetic and twitchy, he looks so gaunt and he sweets more. He show's no sign of nerves like he used to when he wasn't drinking. Its not drink, definitely not.
I could be wrong. I just study these guys , always have, you begin to notice things. Obviously he is in a good place and he knows what he is doing, he's had enough practice.
Hey maybe its just that as he has got older he has gotten more confident in himself. He's like a man possessed, good luck to him whatever he takes, i know he is into vitamins and stuff, could be that.
The gauntness in his face is very odd, but it could just be down to age and being skinny. Peter Cushing had similar facial features as he aged (hatched-faced).
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keefriff99I've noticed that twitchiness too, but I put it down to him just being off everything and have a lot of nervous energy to burn off.Quote
stone4ever
What makes you suspicious of Ronnie? He appears as if he's finally gotten to a good place in his life.
Well i'm not convinced he does take something, its just he seem's so energetic and twitchy, he looks so gaunt and he sweets more. He show's no sign of nerves like he used to when he wasn't drinking. Its not drink, definitely not.
I could be wrong. I just study these guys , always have, you begin to notice things. Obviously he is in a good place and he knows what he is doing, he's had enough practice.
Hey maybe its just that as he has got older he has gotten more confident in himself. He's like a man possessed, good luck to him whatever he takes, i know he is into vitamins and stuff, could be that.
The gauntness in his face is very odd, but it could just be down to age and being skinny. Peter Cushing had similar facial features as he aged (hatched-faced).
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I for one would love to hear Keith describe his current playing status and respond truthfully to "bum" notes. Be it the cold, arthritis, "piss off" whatever.....last time I saw him was Buffalo '15 and still the best I've seen since my journey in '81.
If you asked a Wayne Rooney or Tim Duncan or a sportsman in his later years that question they would probably just shrug.
I think it's fair to talk about his playing but be fair and be realistic. (I know you are!).
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As a matter of curiosity, where was the pit section located in Hamburg?
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On both sides of the catwalk.
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well for a wet London Monday afternoon what's a poor boy supposed to do. kick back with a pack of Marlboros and a bottle of cloudy bay ( ha I wish for the latter,
it was just cheap co op wine) and watch a pretty kool video. Thanks dude for uploading . I for one loved it except there was something missing and I could
not put my finger on it.. then it dawned on me. the thing that was missing was ME.. just wish I was there. as I will alas not be going to any of the European gigs this
for me for now is as good as it gets. so again, thanx for posting the entire gig..
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I think The Rolling Stones play much slower because of Keith
They usually play at his tempo. Some of the tempos in the '69 tour were laid back type of grooves.
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Does he think he's as good as he was a few years ago? Does he think he's the 'weak link.' Those are ridiculous questions.
I just listened to his mini set and thought it was quite enjoyable. And that's through laptop speakers on youtube.
I for one would love to hear Keith describe his current playing status and respond truthfully to "bum" notes. Be it the cold, arthritis, "piss off" whatever.....last time I saw him was Buffalo '15 and still the best I've seen since my journey in '81.
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Were you there? My guess would be no.
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stonesfrkk
WOW what a depressing last 5 pages i read!! I did'nt read the whole thread but it sounds like a bunch of negative weirdo's that were not at the show or were somewhere else maybe they need to be at a Justin Beiber show and listen to pre made up music comming from a computer! These guys are old time Rock'n Roll! They actually play there instuments and they all played good as an opeaner it was the best opeaner i've seen the Stones play and i've seen quite a few! Best Paint it Black i've ever seen completly insane they took that to another level that i've ever heard. The show was excellent and the way it sounds this is going to be a hell of a tour! By the way to all this Keith bashing you guys would not even know how to play his guitar all his guitar's are in different tunnings that's what great musicians do! that's why it might sound out of tune to you because you are not on his level!
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stonesfrkk
WOW what a depressing last 5 pages i read!! I did'nt read the whole thread but it sounds like a bunch of negative weirdo's that were not at the show or were somewhere else maybe they need to be at a Justin Beiber show and listen to pre made up music comming from a computer! These guys are old time Rock'n Roll! They actually play there instuments and they all played good as an opeaner it was the best opeaner i've seen the Stones play and i've seen quite a few! Best Paint it Black i've ever seen completly insane they took that to another level that i've ever heard. The show was excellent and the way it sounds this is going to be a hell of a tour! By the way to all this Keith bashing you guys would not even know how to play his guitar all his guitar's are in different tunnings that's what great musicians do! that's why it might sound out of tune to you because you are not on his level!
Indeed.
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stone4ever
i like to see him move and be more extrovert, i like Keith being Keef the Legend, go Keith go, enjoy yourself, be more like Ronnie, be in the moment. Sod the solo's.
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stone4ever
i like to see him move and be more extrovert, i like Keith being Keef the Legend, go Keith go, enjoy yourself, be more like Ronnie, be in the moment. Sod the solo's.
I prefer him to keep his head down and just play. With the video screens and everything, no need to run around.
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stonesfrkk
WOW what a depressing last 5 pages i read!! I did'nt read the whole thread but it sounds like a bunch of negative weirdo's that were not at the show or were somewhere else maybe they need to be at a Justin Beiber show and listen to pre made up music comming from a computer! These guys are old time Rock'n Roll! They actually play there instuments and they all played good as an opeaner it was the best opeaner i've seen the Stones play and i've seen quite a few! Best Paint it Black i've ever seen completly insane they took that to another level that i've ever heard. The show was excellent and the way it sounds this is going to be a hell of a tour! By the way to all this Keith bashing you guys would not even know how to play his guitar all his guitar's are in different tunnings that's what great musicians do! that's why it might sound out of tune to you because you are not on his level!
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While i agree with Stonesfrkk's sentiments, i don't think anyone in today's discussion is bashing Keith, far from it we are talking about how we imagine keith could improve, and indeed saying that we expect him to improve. We are Keith fanatics having a discussion about his pitfalls and merits. Do try to read the posts before judging people, i feel like Keith's biggest fan, i love the guy.
Also most posters today are saying that although Keith might mess up the odd solo, the rest of the Hamburg gig was good from Keith and the band. He did well for the first night and hope he nails it tomorrow.
Personally i don't give a shit if he messes up a solo, i like to see him move and be more extrovert, i like Keith being Keef the Legend, go Keith go, enjoy yourself, be more like Ronnie, be in the moment. Sod the solo's.
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Rik
Does anyone know who played the accoustic guitar in Satisfaction?
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Does anyone know who played the accoustic guitar in Satisfaction?
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I think The Rolling Stones play much slower because of Keith
And Charlie can save some energy ....
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Rik
Does anyone know who played the accoustic guitar in Satisfaction?
Was there an acoustic guitar?
[www.YouTube.com]
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Rik
Does anyone know who played the accoustic guitar in Satisfaction?
Was there an acoustic guitar?
[www.YouTube.com]
Yes, it can be heard
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MonkeyMan2000
And then his relationship with Mick: From where I was standing I don't think I saw them make contact one time during the whole concert, not even during Out Of Control or Midnight Rambler. Keith even said before his set: "I'm not going to screw you up with bad German", referring to Mick's joking. May the reason be Mick's solo singles?
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For me it wasn't a concert worthy of cheerleading, and I used to do a lot of it.
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And then his relationship with Mick: From where I was standing I don't think I saw them make contact one time during the whole concert, not even during Out Of Control or Midnight Rambler. Keith even said before his set: "I'm not going to screw you up with bad German", referring to Mick's joking. May the reason be Mick's solo singles?
I was hoping this tour would heal the wounds of the band "hitting the wall" and Mick going off with his solo singles, etc., but evidently there's some bad blood between Keith and Mick that still carries over.
Maybe after a few more shows, or by the end of the mini-tour, things might get better between them and they'll be able to laugh it off. Time heals all wounds, and maybe/hopefully they'll go back to the studio determined and focused when this is all over. Then again, after being tied together for the tour for the next few weeks, they might not want to see each other for quite awhile...
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On getting in, did anyone have the early entry package(s), and if so, what time did they open that gate?
What time did they first let most people in?