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doitywoik
So, to judge from the other thread we're indeed going to get the greatest hits compilation, though in a arather unexpected way: 15 LPs in vinyl, and each song a greatest hit ...
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OK perhaps not a big seller as far as numbers sold, but imagine if they sell it at the merch stands during the upcoming tour overpriced at £30 alongside the overpriced £50 t-shirts - while they might not sell very many, they would make alot of extra money to have some extra "family time" when the tour is over. Then when they're well rested, time to hit the road back to the US for the Fall of '18 or early '19. Meanwhile, any work they might have finished on supposed new album will stew and ferment for however long...eventually (hopefully) resulting in something tasty...like a fine wine or a perfectly aged piece of cheese... to be released in 2020 to wide acclaim.
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In the year 2025..
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OK perhaps not a big seller as far as numbers sold, but imagine if they sell it at the merch stands during the upcoming tour overpriced at £30 alongside the overpriced £50 t-shirts - while they might not sell very many, they would make alot of extra money to have some extra "family time" when the tour is over. Then when they're well rested, time to hit the road back to the US for the Fall of '18 or early '19. Meanwhile, any work they might have finished on supposed new album will stew and ferment for however long...eventually (hopefully) resulting in something tasty...like a fine wine or a perfectly aged piece of cheese... to be released in 2020 to wide acclaim.
Mr. Hair ...
'2020' .. You are still OK with that? .... Then Why not 2025?
Yikes ha
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Plus San Jose '99, no?
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Plus San Jose '99, no?
Yes, another delay tactic!
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Sure Ian, I'm OK with 2020...or even 2025...why not?
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Sure Ian, I'm OK with 2020...or even 2025...why not?
Me too - they should release the new (last?) Studio-Album in 2022 in time for the 60th Anniversary of the Band ....
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Sure Ian, I'm OK with 2020...or even 2025...why not?
Me too - they should release the new (last?) Studio-Album in 2022 in time for the 60th Anniversary of the Band ....
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Seems Keith have have won the battle of the wits between "classic Stones" sound vs. "experimental contemporary" - at least at the time of that interview
And while I don't mind the random Stonesy style danceable tune ala Miss You or Hot Stuff, looks like we'll be gifted with soome classic Stones tunes stemming from the blues covers album.
No bells and whistles, or samples, drum machines, and rappers needed...leave that crap to Madonna (or Jagger solo).
Well, where does that leave tracks like YCAGWYA; Miss You ; Undercover; Continental Drift; Angie...and countless others which were certainly not your 'typical' Stones (or Keith) song.
By most peoples standards they aren't exactly experimental either. But still loved...and in some cases still performed.
A more varied style on their next albumwould be appreciated by many people.. That is if the songwriting skills are up to it.
Indeed and I'm all for a varied album with not so typical Stones sounds (I did mention Miss You as likeable), but that's probably asking for a bit too much this late in their career - especially given the division between Mick and Keith and what direction they want the album to go. Keith used the phrase "classic Stones" while Mick used the phrase "experimental contemporary". Listen to Crossyed Heart and Getta Grip/England Lost and that's probably the best way to interpret and understand where they're coming from these days and whats causing the division.
I wouldn't call Crosseyed Heart "classic Stones". It's typical post-80s Keith, but still evolving, a quite refreshing interpretation of soul. I am refering to the soul songs now, which make this album so good. The rest is okay, but not particularly interesting and, yes, slightly predictable "classic Stones"-y.
But since pure rock music hasn't produced anything remotely new or fresh or exciting since the late 70s, I don't see how the Stones, even if Mick and Keith were on the same wavelength, could change that. Fresh or exciting stuff in the past 40 years was either some mixture of electronic music and rap (one way or other), or underground avant-garde (and that's been some while ago). Neither of which the Stones really could possibly excel at.
I wouldn't necessarily classify Crosseyed Heart as "classic Stones" either as it's a Keith solo album start to finish, but it's definitely closer to the direction Keith would like to take the new album vs. the Getta Grip/England Lost direction that Mick came up with.
I don't see the problem then.
Just mix the style and moods...an eclectic mix btter than same old same old.
Mick recognised and stated as such 40 years or so ago that rock music is a VERY limited art form. So progress, experiment.Mature even.
The Beatles music was a blend of two or even three very diverse styles. They took their fans with them. So can The Stones surely.
Nothing to lose. As Keith has said he doesn't expect Madonna type sales.
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Seems Keith have have won the battle of the wits between "classic Stones" sound vs. "experimental contemporary" - at least at the time of that interview
And while I don't mind the random Stonesy style danceable tune ala Miss You or Hot Stuff, looks like we'll be gifted with soome classic Stones tunes stemming from the blues covers album.
No bells and whistles, or samples, drum machines, and rappers needed...leave that crap to Madonna (or Jagger solo).
Well, where does that leave tracks like YCAGWYA; Miss You ; Undercover; Continental Drift; Angie...and countless others which were certainly not your 'typical' Stones (or Keith) song.
By most peoples standards they aren't exactly experimental either. But still loved...and in some cases still performed.
A more varied style on their next albumwould be appreciated by many people.. That is if the songwriting skills are up to it.
Indeed and I'm all for a varied album with not so typical Stones sounds (I did mention Miss You as likeable), but that's probably asking for a bit too much this late in their career - especially given the division between Mick and Keith and what direction they want the album to go. Keith used the phrase "classic Stones" while Mick used the phrase "experimental contemporary". Listen to Crossyed Heart and Getta Grip/England Lost and that's probably the best way to interpret and understand where they're coming from these days and whats causing the division.
I wouldn't call Crosseyed Heart "classic Stones". It's typical post-80s Keith, but still evolving, a quite refreshing interpretation of soul. I am refering to the soul songs now, which make this album so good. The rest is okay, but not particularly interesting and, yes, slightly predictable "classic Stones"-y.
But since pure rock music hasn't produced anything remotely new or fresh or exciting since the late 70s, I don't see how the Stones, even if Mick and Keith were on the same wavelength, could change that. Fresh or exciting stuff in the past 40 years was either some mixture of electronic music and rap (one way or other), or underground avant-garde (and that's been some while ago). Neither of which the Stones really could possibly excel at.
I wouldn't necessarily classify Crosseyed Heart as "classic Stones" either as it's a Keith solo album start to finish, but it's definitely closer to the direction Keith would like to take the new album vs. the Getta Grip/England Lost direction that Mick came up with.
I don't see the problem then.
Just mix the style and moods...an eclectic mix btter than same old same old.
Mick recognised and stated as such 40 years or so ago that rock music is a VERY limited art form. So progress, experiment.Mature even.
The Beatles music was a blend of two or even three very diverse styles. They took their fans with them. So can The Stones surely.
Nothing to lose. As Keith has said he doesn't expect Madonna type sales.
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Sure.. an eclectic album would be fine .. they have done those before .. but if the songs while being different are not so strong .. or worthy of album material
the 'mixing' will only go so far. Song writing has tobe good (as well as the performances) .. before the mix is ever even inplay.
If the material is different yet not that great or unfinished it doesn't matter.
Just bringing this thought into light. You can have a fair song and mix it any way ya want .. or arrange it any way ya want .. it wont make enough difference . It would be easy to catch they tried to cover a poor song in the production and it sounds cheezy when this happens.
They might have five good RS style songs .. and 5-10 experimental songs that are not that great. That would make the album lopsided toward fair or even poor even though five RS songs out of 15 would be really really good. Just noting there 'could be' (not saying there is) .. there could be other factors involved. We don't know the situation.
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I have a gut feeling we're actually VERY close to the release of the new CD.
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...if the songs while being different are not so strong .. or worthy of album material
the 'mixing' will only go so far. Song writing has tobe good (as well as the performances) .. before the mix is ever even inplay.
If the material is different yet not that great or unfinished it doesn't matter.
Just bringing this thought into light. You can have a fair song and mix it any way ya want .. or arrange it any way ya want .. it wont make enough difference . It would be easy to catch they tried to cover a poor song in the production and it sounds cheezy when this happens.
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doitywoik
Since Greatest Hits albums are kind of boring if no new greatest hit is emerging on the horizon, how about a Greatest Turds album? They could spend years fighting over the track list ...
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doitywoik
Since Greatest Hits albums are kind of boring if no new greatest hit is emerging on the horizon, how about a Greatest Turds album? They could spend years fighting over the track list ...
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Since Greatest Hits albums are kind of boring if no new greatest hit is emerging on the horizon, how about a Greatest Turds album? They could spend years fighting over the track list ...
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Since Greatest Hits albums are kind of boring if no new greatest hit is emerging on the horizon, how about a Greatest Turds album? They could spend years fighting over the track list ...
Similar to Sucking in the '70's - various title options:
Big Turds (High Tide and Green Grass)
Through the Past Darkly (Big Turds Vol.2)
Hot Turds
More Hot Turds (Big Turds and Fazed Cookies)
Turd in the Shade
40 Turds
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KevinLocksPerm
I thought this might be a more realistic thread title for the next studio album.
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The cover will have them in wheelchairs and the new album will be called "Still Rolling Along"
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I thought this might be a more realistic thread title for the next studio album.
Maybe 2022 in time for the 60th Anniversary of the Band ....
Better a late & superb Album release than quick & dirty.