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Without considering all the great stuff from previous sessions, don't forget BTB outtakes (High or Low, Ever-changing world, Feeling now, Young Love, Dont Apologize, I'm cured...), other outtakes from VL sessions (You got it made, Randy Whore, Zip Mouth Angel..) and 40 Licks sessions (they recorded more than 20 tracks).
Its possible of course. But a summer release coinciding with a concert tour (and all the hoohah it generates) would still make commercial sense, particularly after a two million seller.
Times running out however.
Artists and record companies aren't just geared to Christmas sales, in any case there is some logic to releasing product at a time when the competition isnt quite so fierce.
That song is horrible. As in (awful bad) Jagger solo crap.
Honest Man is great indeed and almost the only VL-outtake/leftover worth listening to. Too bad they didn´t finish it and put it on VL, would have been one the album´s top highlights. It´s not crap, it´s straigtht rocking with good lyrics. Maybe you confuse it with other crap from Stew, Brew, Residue (there´s a lot of).
Finishing it now for a new album would be nice, but all vocal/instrumental tracks of course have to be newly recorded takes, no using of old material allowed.
If all of the new Jagger-demos were of Honest-Man-quality, the new album would be in stores already.
If Honest Man had any quality, it would have been on Voodoo Lounge. While the music is quite ok, the vocal melody shows that Jagger does not know what to do with this track, it sounds forced and constructed and consequently, the track was left in the can.
I am one of those who think that among what was left out of VL were tracks and/or ideas better than the released pack.
...Now that 's a point.
MMD (Mick Makes Demos)
Mick is working on his demos for a new solo album with Stones overdubs.
Garth Hudson is still with us.
It's Jagger imitating Kenny Loggins. It's horrible and not worthy - like most of DIRTY WORK and a number of songs since - of being called a Stones song.
Your ignorance and ineptness is tremendous.
The single cover for Honest Man would be this:
...FS0 (For Stones Overdubs)
December of 2018? They may get one more together by then.
Nope. Wrong as usual.
You hear things in that demo that the Stones themselves obviously did not hear. Therefore, it stayed in the can without further work. I agree with them. Every effort I could possibly imagine would not turn this into anything better than a b-side track like I'm Gonna Drive or similar. But a "smash hit"? No.
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Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
KRiffhard
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Date: March 5, 2017 09:36
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mariano
honest man could be a great new single .....
A 24 years old song new?
Tattoo You has songs from 1972 to 1981, the oldest one had 9 years at time of release.
Now on 2017 we have to go to 12-13 years ago to find the NEW outtakes, some of them (Nothing On Me, Illusion, Trouble) were used by Keith on his latest solo album.
Mick has over 40 new songs written during the last 10 years, he did use 2/3 songs on Superheavy + Doom and Gloom 5 years ago, Keith has 2/3 riffs or ideas, very much on the "One More Shot" type I bet and a ballad.
We'll get that, the best of Mick's demos (or the most 'Stones sounding' ones) with a couple of Keith contributions here and there.
After 55 years we can't ask for more, a decent set of new songs at this point, not more than that.
A 24 years old song new?
Why not? It's a ROLLING STONES song. They wrote it, but did not release it until now. At this point I don't see the difference between a 9 year gap (Tattoo You I) or a 45 year gap between releasing a GREAT new version of Fast Talking Slow Walking.
Why NOT go into the recording studio and make an album like this:
- New 2017 versions of three/four old outtakes (Honest Man
- Two songs written by Keith
- Four/Five songs written by Mick
- One song written by Ronnie (Jagger, Richards, Wood)
- One cover song
Without considering all the great stuff from previous sessions, don't forget BTB outtakes (High or Low, Ever-changing world, Feeling now, Young Love, Dont Apologize, I'm cured...), other outtakes from VL sessions (You got it made, Randy Whore, Zip Mouth Angel..) and 40 Licks sessions (they recorded more than 20 tracks).
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
stone4ever
()
Date: March 5, 2017 10:57
Can't see any reason why this album won't be great. They surely have enough material after an 11 year lay off !!. Remember keith's last solo album was none to shabby.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
mailexile67
()
Date: March 5, 2017 14:43
@Georgelicks
Do you think that next December could be a good opportunity and the probable month for the issue?!I think so and it could be an Australasian Tour in early February(Exhibitionism moves to Australia in 2018)or an US Arena Tour that should be good for album sales don't you?!
Do you think that next December could be a good opportunity and the probable month for the issue?!I think so and it could be an Australasian Tour in early February(Exhibitionism moves to Australia in 2018)or an US Arena Tour that should be good for album sales don't you?!
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
jlowe
()
Date: March 5, 2017 15:04
Quote
mailexile67
@Georgelicks
Do you think that next December could be a good opportunity and the probable month for the issue?!I think so and it could be an Australasian Tour in early February(Exhibitionism moves to Australia in 2018)or an US Arena Tour that should be good for album sales don't you?!
Its possible of course. But a summer release coinciding with a concert tour (and all the hoohah it generates) would still make commercial sense, particularly after a two million seller.
Times running out however.
Artists and record companies aren't just geared to Christmas sales, in any case there is some logic to releasing product at a time when the competition isnt quite so fierce.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: March 6, 2017 06:12
Quote
mariano
honest man could be a great new single .....
That song is horrible. As in (awful bad) Jagger solo crap.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: March 6, 2017 06:26
TATTOO YOU consisted of all leftovers, with the oldest band recorded tracks done in 1972 and the newest band recorded tracks done in 1979 and overdubs in 1980-81.
Because Chris Kimsey went through loads of tapes and had to listen to things. There were more songs worked on.
Tattoo You really came about because Mick and Keith were going through a period of not getting on. There was a need to have an album out, and I told everyone I could make an album from what I knew was still there.
- Chris Kimsey
I spent 3 months going through like the last 4, 5 albums finding stuff that had been either forgotten about or at the time rejected. And then I presented it to the band and I said, Hey, look guys, you've got all this great stuff sitting in the can and it's great material, do something with it.
- Chris Kimsey, 1982
Since I'd recorded a number of songs during Some Girls and Emotional Rescue that they'd never used, I assumed there must be other bits and pieces lying around. So, I spent a couple of months going through all their tapes and I found these gems: Waiting On A Friend and Tops were from the Goats Head Soup sessions; Slave and Worried About You were from Black and Blue; Start Me Up was from Some Girls; and Hang Fire (webmaster note: started during Some Girls), Little T&A, Black Limousine (also started during Some Girls) (...) and No Use In Crying were from Emotional Rescue. I did rough mixes at Olympic of everything I'd found, sent them to the band members, and then began working on the tracks... The main thing missing from most of them was Sir Mick's vocal, because he hadn't finished writing the lyrics, so those parts were recorded in Paris in mid-1981.
- Chris Kimsey, 2004
[timeisonourside.com]
A bit different now with files - quicker, at least, to go through.
They could do another album like TATTOO YOU, with new songs even. There's no "pressure" like they had in 1981 though.
Because Chris Kimsey went through loads of tapes and had to listen to things. There were more songs worked on.
Tattoo You really came about because Mick and Keith were going through a period of not getting on. There was a need to have an album out, and I told everyone I could make an album from what I knew was still there.
- Chris Kimsey
I spent 3 months going through like the last 4, 5 albums finding stuff that had been either forgotten about or at the time rejected. And then I presented it to the band and I said, Hey, look guys, you've got all this great stuff sitting in the can and it's great material, do something with it.
- Chris Kimsey, 1982
Since I'd recorded a number of songs during Some Girls and Emotional Rescue that they'd never used, I assumed there must be other bits and pieces lying around. So, I spent a couple of months going through all their tapes and I found these gems: Waiting On A Friend and Tops were from the Goats Head Soup sessions; Slave and Worried About You were from Black and Blue; Start Me Up was from Some Girls; and Hang Fire (webmaster note: started during Some Girls), Little T&A, Black Limousine (also started during Some Girls) (...) and No Use In Crying were from Emotional Rescue. I did rough mixes at Olympic of everything I'd found, sent them to the band members, and then began working on the tracks... The main thing missing from most of them was Sir Mick's vocal, because he hadn't finished writing the lyrics, so those parts were recorded in Paris in mid-1981.
- Chris Kimsey, 2004
[timeisonourside.com]
A bit different now with files - quicker, at least, to go through.
They could do another album like TATTOO YOU, with new songs even. There's no "pressure" like they had in 1981 though.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
HMS
()
Date: March 6, 2017 12:46
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GasLightStreetQuote
mariano
honest man could be a great new single .....
That song is horrible. As in (awful bad) Jagger solo crap.
Honest Man is great indeed and almost the only VL-outtake/leftover worth listening to. Too bad they didn´t finish it and put it on VL, would have been one the album´s top highlights. It´s not crap, it´s straigtht rocking with good lyrics. Maybe you confuse it with other crap from Stew, Brew, Residue (there´s a lot of).
Finishing it now for a new album would be nice, but all vocal/instrumental tracks of course have to be newly recorded takes, no using of old material allowed.
If all of the new Jagger-demos were of Honest-Man-quality, the new album would be in stores already.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
retired_dog
()
Date: March 6, 2017 20:43
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HMS
If all of the new Jagger-demos were of Honest-Man-quality, the new album would be in stores already.
If Honest Man had any quality, it would have been on Voodoo Lounge. While the music is quite ok, the vocal melody shows that Jagger does not know what to do with this track, it sounds forced and constructed and consequently, the track was left in the can.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
maumau
()
Date: March 7, 2017 14:01
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retired_dogQuote
HMS
If all of the new Jagger-demos were of Honest-Man-quality, the new album would be in stores already.
If Honest Man had any quality, it would have been on Voodoo Lounge. While the music is quite ok, the vocal melody shows that Jagger does not know what to do with this track, it sounds forced and constructed and consequently, the track was left in the can.
I am one of those who think that among what was left out of VL were tracks and/or ideas better than the released pack.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
jlowe
()
Date: March 7, 2017 14:25
Back to the point of this thread!!
The new UK Tax year commences 5 April so there could be a regrouping in London in the next few weeks.
The new UK Tax year commences 5 April so there could be a regrouping in London in the next few weeks.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
RoughJusticeOnYa
()
Date: March 7, 2017 14:58
Quote
jlowe
Back to the point of this thread!!
The new UK Tax year commences 5 April so there could be a regrouping in London in the next few weeks.
...Now that 's a point.
Re: Working on new Music
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: March 7, 2017 09:23
....too much info ... can someone decipher it all for me ...
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: Working on new Music
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: March 7, 2017 10:20
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Rockman
....too much info ... can someone decipher it all for me ...
MMD (Mick Makes Demos)
Re: Working on new Music
Posted by:
LeonidP
()
Date: March 7, 2017 10:38
Disappointed to read Mick saying "I'm working on new songs now", as opposed to "we're".
Re: Working on new Music
Posted by:
stonehearted
()
Date: March 7, 2017 13:02
Now, wait a minute, I suppose this would be very interesting, but of the members of the Band, isn't Robbie Robertson the only one left? I could be wrong.Quote
vintage stone
Here is a link to read about the Band´s working on new material....
[www.hennemusic.com]
Re: Working on new Music
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: March 7, 2017 13:05
Quote
Rockman
....too much info ... can someone decipher it all for me ...
Mick is working on his demos for a new solo album with Stones overdubs.
Re: Working on new Music
Posted by:
Ross
()
Date: March 7, 2017 14:14
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stoneheartedNow, wait a minute, I suppose this would be very interesting, but of the members of the Band, isn't Robbie Robertson the only one left? I could be wrong.Quote
vintage stone
Here is a link to read about the Band´s working on new material....
[www.hennemusic.com]
Garth Hudson is still with us.
Re: Working on new Music
Posted by:
jlowe
()
Date: March 7, 2017 14:34
Yes, Garth is still with us.
He seems a bit like Charlie, quiet and low key. Doesn't seem to do much in the way of interviews, no tell all autobiography (yet).
Unlike Charlie though, he has not managed his financial affairs very well.
Except for Robbie, fame has been a bit double edged for the other four.
He seems a bit like Charlie, quiet and low key. Doesn't seem to do much in the way of interviews, no tell all autobiography (yet).
Unlike Charlie though, he has not managed his financial affairs very well.
Except for Robbie, fame has been a bit double edged for the other four.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: March 7, 2017 16:54
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retired_dogQuote
HMS
If all of the new Jagger-demos were of Honest-Man-quality, the new album would be in stores already.
If Honest Man had any quality, it would have been on Voodoo Lounge. While the music is quite ok, the vocal melody shows that Jagger does not know what to do with this track, it sounds forced and constructed and consequently, the track was left in the can.
It's Jagger imitating Kenny Loggins. It's horrible and not worthy - like most of DIRTY WORK and a number of songs since - of being called a Stones song.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: March 7, 2017 16:57
Quote
HMSQuote
GasLightStreetQuote
mariano
honest man could be a great new single .....
That song is horrible. As in (awful bad) Jagger solo crap.
Honest Man is great indeed and almost the only VL-outtake/leftover worth listening to. Too bad they didn´t finish it and put it on VL, would have been one the album´s top highlights. It´s not crap, it´s straigtht rocking with good lyrics. Maybe you confuse it with other crap from Stew, Brew, Residue (there´s a lot of).
Finishing it now for a new album would be nice, but all vocal/instrumental tracks of course have to be newly recorded takes, no using of old material allowed.
If all of the new Jagger-demos were of Honest-Man-quality, the new album would be in stores already.
Your ignorance and ineptness is tremendous.
The single cover for Honest Man would be this:
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: March 7, 2017 17:20
Let Keith and Ronnie grab ahold of it and STONES IT UP!! I'd like to hear that.....
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: March 7, 2017 17:36
GasLightStreet is an honest man. Don't blow his cover.
Re: Working on new Music
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: March 8, 2017 09:23
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Rockman
....too much info ... can someone decipher it all for me ...
MMD (Mick Makes Demos)
...FS0 (For Stones Overdubs)
Re: Working on new Music
Posted by:
HMS
()
Date: March 8, 2017 14:05
Honest Man is more or less a demo, it is not quite finished and needs to be worked on. But it shows GREAT potential. If they would record a new guitar heavy version, Honest Man could be a smash just like Doom And Gloom, even better.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: March 9, 2017 04:02
Quote
mailexile67
@Georgelicks
Do you think that next December could be a good opportunity and the probable month for the issue?!I think so and it could be an Australasian Tour in early February(Exhibitionism moves to Australia in 2018)or an US Arena Tour that should be good for album sales don't you?!
December of 2018? They may get one more together by then.
Re: Working on new Music
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: March 9, 2017 04:04
Quote
HMS
Honest Man is more or less a demo, it is not quite finished and needs to be worked on. But it shows GREAT potential. If they would record a new guitar heavy version, Honest Man could be a smash just like Doom And Gloom, even better.
Nope. Wrong as usual.
Re: Working on new Music
Posted by:
retired_dog
()
Date: March 9, 2017 08:14
Quote
HMS
Honest Man is more or less a demo, it is not quite finished and needs to be worked on. But it shows GREAT potential. If they would record a new guitar heavy version, Honest Man could be a smash just like Doom And Gloom, even better.
You hear things in that demo that the Stones themselves obviously did not hear. Therefore, it stayed in the can without further work. I agree with them. Every effort I could possibly imagine would not turn this into anything better than a b-side track like I'm Gonna Drive or similar. But a "smash hit"? No.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
matxil
()
Date: March 9, 2017 11:58
Recently I am listening a lot to "Keep It Cool" ( [www.youtube.com] ), which is a terrific jam and a pity it never got worked into a song for an album. On the other hand, there is a vague similarity to Gunface (at least to my ears), in which case they've worked it the wrong way.
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