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Socrates1
I think on this album Keith and Charlie are the spine of the band. Mick is the beating heart and Ronnie has the youngest fingers. B&L keeps getting better with every listen. The Stones rule. The Stones could be the only real rock & roll around these days. B&L is so much more than a collection of blues covers. Now we need Part II! Originals would be optimal but I wouldn't mind if they did more covers. because they're not really covers now. B&L songs are as much Stones songs as their originals are, IMO.
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Hairball
For what it's worth, Keith had also said there were no new Mick Taylor overdubs on Plundered My Soul...
"Richards denies murmurings that Taylor, who left the band in late 1974, contributed overdubs to the reissue package. “That’s a rumor, babe,” he says.
“If he was on there, I would know. We’ve had no contact with Mick for a long time.”' (Guitar World magazine)
And he plays Satisfaction, Little T+A and other standard tuning-songs in open G
It's touching that people still are believing everything Keith and Ronnie say.
They could be right to a certain extent about not adding many overdubs themselves, though. As mpj200 says, guitar parts and harp parts (isn't some harp parts going while Mick is singing, btw?) could have been from pre-production or from other places in the song.
It's obvious that Ronnie's solo track on Everybody Knows About My Good Thing was overdubbed, though, as his other guitar track is going simultaneously for a while when the solo track starts.
Don Was would do whatever it takes to make the record sound as good as possible. Every producer does. I think you are suggesting there were overdubs based on what your ears are telling you. And it's impossible for your ears to know.
"Overdubbing" generally means recording a track on top of the existing tracks. But Producers can also take bits and pices from alternate passes (takes) and piece them together and achieve a similar effect. This is the norm these days. It's how records are made. What makes this a little complicated for Was is the fact that the songs were not recorded to a click track and on tape. So if there are extra "parts" they would have likely been pieced together manually. Apart from the piano and percussion sessions previously mentioned.
Ronnie's solo is not «bits and pieces» (it's a track going from «I was talking to my neighbour, and throughout the song) and you said yourself that he did the other guitar track live with Clapton - hence it's an overdub.
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Spud
Wouldn't disagree with that.
Plus, the way they went about this album didn't allow for any pre-planning in that regard.
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GasLightStreet
It's wort zero time if you have a love for good music and good songs.
By all means, if you like sub-standard and zero standard music, listen away.
Everybody except you knows that Harlem Shuffle, One Hit, Winning Ugly, Dirty Work, Had It With You ARE VERY good songs. You won´t find sub-standard and zero standard music on DW. If you´re looking for that kind of stuff you´ll have to listen to Goats Head Soup, Steel Wheels and Some Girls.
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Hairball
For what it's worth, Keith had also said there were no new Mick Taylor overdubs on Plundered My Soul...
"Richards denies murmurings that Taylor, who left the band in late 1974, contributed overdubs to the reissue package. “That’s a rumor, babe,” he says.
“If he was on there, I would know. We’ve had no contact with Mick for a long time.”' (Guitar World magazine)
And he plays Satisfaction, Little T+A and other standard tuning-songs in open G
It's touching that people still are believing everything Keith and Ronnie say.
They could be right to a certain extent about not adding many overdubs themselves, though. As mpj200 says, guitar parts and harp parts (isn't some harp parts going while Mick is singing, btw?) could have been from pre-production or from other places in the song.
It's obvious that Ronnie's solo track on Everybody Knows About My Good Thing was overdubbed, though, as his other guitar track is going simultaneously for a while when the solo track starts.
Don Was would do whatever it takes to make the record sound as good as possible. Every producer does. I think you are suggesting there were overdubs based on what your ears are telling you. And it's impossible for your ears to know.
"Overdubbing" generally means recording a track on top of the existing tracks. But Producers can also take bits and pices from alternate passes (takes) and piece them together and achieve a similar effect. This is the norm these days. It's how records are made. What makes this a little complicated for Was is the fact that the songs were not recorded to a click track and on tape. So if there are extra "parts" they would have likely been pieced together manually. Apart from the piano and percussion sessions previously mentioned.
Ronnie's solo is not «bits and pieces» (it's a track going from «I was talking to my neighbour, and throughout the song) and you said yourself that he did the other guitar track live with Clapton - hence it's an overdub.
There are 4 guitars on that track!
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LeonidP
Little Rain is still my #1, but Hoo Doo Blues is gaining!
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Little Rain is still my #1, but Hoo Doo Blues is gaining!
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Palace Revolution 2000
In so many reviews (all stellar) I see that Jagger gets top mentions. And I agree; he really shines on this album. It made reflect that it is so odd that of all people it is Jagger who really gets the Blues. His harmonica playing is topnotch, but it is the singing that I find truly great.
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Idorh
My wife wanted me to today put the walls in the living room in the paint. I hate that. But turning down B.and.L. I painted with pleasure
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Palace Revolution 2000
In so many reviews (all stellar) I see that Jagger gets top mentions. And I agree; he really shines on this album. It made reflect that it is so odd that of all people it is Jagger who really gets the Blues. His harmonica playing is topnotch, but it is the singing that I find truly great.
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Socrates1
I think on this album Keith and Charlie are the spine of the band. Mick is the beating heart and Ronnie has the youngest fingers. B&L keeps getting better with every listen. The Stones rule. The Stones could be the only real rock & roll around these days. B&L is so much more than a collection of blues covers. Now we need Part II! Originals would be optimal but I wouldn't mind if they did more covers. because they're not really covers now. B&L songs are as much Stones songs as their originals are, IMO.
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MonkeyMan2000
Mr mpj200, I appreciate your insights, but your wrong about the REMD riff.
1. That lead run couldn't sound more like Keith's soloing style.
2. The rhythm guitar that kicks in with the F# chord, the E chord and at last the B chord is not at all Keith's style of that type of boogie woogie playing. That rhythm guitar is totally Ronnie's rhythm style.
3. Why should the intro lead run (it's not really a riff) come out of the right speaker, if it's played by Ron?
Edit: Ahh and then when the verse kicks in, you can hear how both guitars play that boogie woogie rhythm, but the one on the right (the one that played the intro) always hits the chord a 8th note late, which is a typical Keith thing.
The guitars may be panned around a bit in the mix? I don't know. Your ears may trick you. My eyes don't. You will see when (if) they play the song live.
I would add that things have changed quite a bit with Keith's style since the last Stones record.
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MonkeyMan2000
Ronnie doesn't even play the intro live the same way Keith played it in the studio...
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MonkeyMan2000
Ronnie doesn't even play the intro live the same way Keith played it in the studio...
So you think Keith played the song intro live in the studio, for the whole world to hear, but they switched parts for one show in the States? Right.