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keefriff99
But then when you watch that recent YouTube clip of them discussing their Edith Grove apartment...they genuinely seem at least at ease with each other. That's some A+ acting if they truly can't stand each other.
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They play their parts, they get a load of money, It's a nice scene, they just have to stand each other for an hour. Mick seems to behave like his slightly embarrassed nephew or something.Quote
keefriff99
But then when you watch that recent YouTube clip of them discussing their Edith Grove apartment...they genuinely seem at least at ease with each other. That's some A+ acting if they truly can't stand each other.
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No, I get that, but their body language seems very at ease and friendly. You can tell when people are tense with each other.Quote
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keefriff99
But then when you watch that recent YouTube clip of them discussing their Edith Grove apartment...they genuinely seem at least at ease with each other. That's some A+ acting if they truly can't stand each other.
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But this is a "work-setting" example.
Money is to be made here with this staged sit down.
Take Lem's challenge on page 4...
I can't and it makes me distressed and depressed.
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RedhotcarpetThey play their parts, they get a load of money, It's a nice scene, they just have to stand each other for an hour. Mick seems to behave like his slightly embarrassed nephew or something.Quote
keefriff99
But then when you watch that recent YouTube clip of them discussing their Edith Grove apartment...they genuinely seem at least at ease with each other. That's some A+ acting if they truly can't stand each other.
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Okay, I guess I'm just a bad judge of people then, LOL.Quote
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RedhotcarpetThey play their parts, they get a load of money, It's a nice scene, they just have to stand each other for an hour. Mick seems to behave like his slightly embarrassed nephew or something.Quote
keefriff99
But then when you watch that recent YouTube clip of them discussing their Edith Grove apartment...they genuinely seem at least at ease with each other. That's some A+ acting if they truly can't stand each other.
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Yeah, Mick seems impatient, like he just wants to get it over with.
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lem motlow
show me a picture of mick and keith in a social setting,it has to be non-work related.like the picture of ronnie by the pool with keith or mick and charlie having dinner.-i''ll give you a 25 year time span this time.25 years..
That's how I see it...I don't see Mick as being impatient and wanting to leave, but being the showman, he's keenly aware that they're being recorded and he wants to keep the pace of the conversation moving forward at a good pace, so he's prompting Keith to keep him from lingering too long with his mumbling and long uhhhhhhs.Quote
RollingFreak
In no way do I claim to be a judge of people. I'm frequently wrong and rather naive lol.
But I don't know, it looks like they like each other in that Edith Grove clip. I wouldn't begin to do Len's challenge, mainly cause I'm sure its hard and the clips to prove him wrong would be few if not nonexistent. But I don't know, if you go by the Edith clip, it looks like two really old guys that remember those fond days and how far they've come. On different wavelengths of course, Keith looks as wrinkled as I've ever seen him lol. But I could see them sitting there like that for an hour, even if cameras weren't rolling.
But again, maybe thats just a fantasy in my head. Just seems that way to me. The whole "where did we sleep?!" and the "horrendous carpet" that they both say in unison. It literally makes me smile so wide. I'm fine if it is fake, I'm a big boy lol, but it really seems genuine. Anyone else also feel like Mick kinda likes to quiz Keith about everything in this clip? He's gotta know all these answers but the only way to get stuff out of Keith and steer the conversation is to ask him a question lol?
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wonderboy
Lot of good opinions, but the 'fake feud' thing is silly.
No marketing or publicity person in his or her right mind would think that's a good way to sell a band.
I did NOT post that video as a response to your challenge, nor did I post it to prove that they're still best friends...only that if they truly hate and despise each other, they deserve Oscar nominations.Quote
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wonderboy
Lot of good opinions, but the 'fake feud' thing is silly.
No marketing or publicity person in his or her right mind would think that's a good way to sell a band.
of course,i was making a joke in my last post.
can you imagine that meeting.the P.R. people and the record company guys all sitting around-"o.k keith and i we're thinking he would say i have a small dick,we wouldn't talk for a few years and not write any songs together.that's our new scheme,people will think we're fighting ,it will be all the rage"
how's that search going guys?we have a video on rollingstones.com pushing the exhibition?-that's gotta be genuine because they're letting people in for free ,right? not like these guys have been in movies or something....
anything else? i'll tell you what,it doesn't have to be a picture or video.i'll take a magazine blurb,just words about them hanging and it can be a 10 minute conversation,just words from a magazine about them in a non-working enviroment,i'll take it. i think there was a story about mick going to keiths house in new york or wherever a couple years ago,try that..
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keefriff99
I did NOT post that video as a response to your challenge, nor did I post it to prove that they're still best friends...only that if they truly hate and despise each other, they deserve Oscar nominations.
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HonkeyTonkFlash
>the Ian Stewart concert was on February 23rd 1986 and the Grammy prize a couple of days later on the 25th :>
I remember seeing the Grammy thing on TV...Perhaps this was the period when Charlie wasn't...um...doing well? I remember him looking uncharacteristically wasted. He was mumbling something incomprehensible about the grammy plaque, like it looked like a skateboard, and "It hasn't got any wheels!" Or maybe I was wasted when I watched it!...
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>the Ian Stewart concert was on February 23rd 1986 and the Grammy prize a couple of days later on the 25th :>
I remember seeing the Grammy thing on TV...Perhaps this was the period when Charlie wasn't...um...doing well? I remember him looking uncharacteristically wasted. He was mumbling something incomprehensible about the grammy plaque, like it looked like a skateboard, and "It hasn't got any wheels!" Or maybe I was wasted when I watched it!...
Actually I'd never seen it until yesterday when I found it for my post [www.youtube.com] pretty scary indeed, you can understand Mick's comments in 89 that he was 100% right not wanting to tour since the band wasn't even able to cross the Champs Elysées.Charlie was described by fans who hung out with them as being permanently drunk but it was worse than that...what a nightmare the whole situation must have been and being English and all it's possible they never even confronted Charlie with it. Although I still think Keith's "Victor Hugo" outtake is about that situation.
About Mick dropping by at Keith's? Didn't he do that in late '88 when Keith was only too happy to talk about the went to take a piss/came back to see him dancing to my solo LP/went back, slammed the door/came back he was sitting quietly? ;-)
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HonkeyTonkFlash
I remember seeing an interview with Mick on TV back around 2012. The interviewer asked Mick if an apology from Keith regarding "Life" was a factor in them playing live again. Mick looked somewhat genuinely uncomfortable and said something like, "Yes, in fact it was a requirement." I've often laughed off a lot of the things Keith has said about Mick, as I'm a big Keith fan but geez....How must Mick have felt about being called "Brenda, tiny todger," etc. By his partner of many years. Surely the man has feelings and that all must have hurt. God only knows how they manage to work together after all that....I know...$$$$$ talks....
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HonkeyTonkFlash
I remember seeing an interview with Mick on TV back around 2012. The interviewer asked Mick if an apology from Keith regarding "Life" was a factor in them playing live again. Mick looked somewhat genuinely uncomfortable and said something like, "Yes, in fact it was a requirement." I've often laughed off a lot of the things Keith has said about Mick, as I'm a big Keith fan but geez....How must Mick have felt about being called "Brenda, tiny todger," etc. By his partner of many years. Surely the man has feelings and that all must have hurt. God only knows how they manage to work together after all that....I know...$$$$$ talks....
I know, right? Its so public and its such an embarrassing guy thing that it is pretty shocking. Maybe he just chalks it up to Keith being Keith sometimes? Also, in regards to them hanging, again not that I'm taking part in the challenge, but a lot of bands don't hang together when they aren't on stage. Bruce Springsteen is very close with his bands, and I believe they barely ever see each other when they aren't touring. I know that fact has surprised many Bruce fans, because he seems so close to them. But I'm pretty sure his sax player Clarence said at one time "you'd be surprised how little I see him." So Mick and Keith not getting together for things that aren't work related is not a weird idea to me. Its common in bands.
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HonkeyTonkFlash
I remember seeing an interview with Mick on TV back around 2012. The interviewer asked Mick if an apology from Keith regarding "Life" was a factor in them playing live again. Mick looked somewhat genuinely uncomfortable and said something like, "Yes, in fact it was a requirement." I've often laughed off a lot of the things Keith has said about Mick, as I'm a big Keith fan but geez....How must Mick have felt about being called "Brenda, tiny todger," etc. By his partner of many years. Surely the man has feelings and that all must have hurt. God only knows how they manage to work together after all that....I know...$$$$$ talks....
I know, right? Its so public and its such an embarrassing guy thing that it is pretty shocking. Maybe he just chalks it up to Keith being Keith sometimes? Also, in regards to them hanging, again not that I'm taking part in the challenge, but a lot of bands don't hang together when they aren't on stage. Bruce Springsteen is very close with his bands, and I believe they barely ever see each other when they aren't touring. I know that fact has surprised many Bruce fans, because he seems so close to them. But I'm pretty sure his sax player Clarence said at one time "you'd be surprised how little I see him." So Mick and Keith not getting together for things that aren't work related is not a weird idea to me. Its common in bands.
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Redhotcarpet
Well Mick had too, he had lost a lot of money and he had to reunite. I gotta add that i dont think Mick is very hateful or bitter at all which probably makes it possible to continue with "uncle Keith" as long as Keith is not in a bad mood. Besides Mick probably did admire Keith for a period in the 60s and early 70s.