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AlmostHearYouSigh
Take a look at the video for Neighbors. Keith's hate for Mick is so obvious. Thanks to this cheaply made video (no retakes-keep the camera rolling) you can see Keith's public contempt started in 1981. Mick became a person Keith can't accept. Telling video - Mick wants to play the part of room-mates and friends and Keith is like f off I don't act.
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geordiestoneYes of course my mistake, but there was a degree of seperation because Brian and Keith became so close while Mick was away during the day.Quote
DandelionPowderman
I think Mick lived with them, Geordie (he was still attending LSOE in the daytime) but he became jealous indeed, when Brian and Keith attempted to become the new Everley Brothers in Edith Grove.
According to Phelge's book.
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GasLightStreet
It all started when Mick got married. It took the air out of the brotherhood Keith had for Mick.
Then SOME GIRLS gave Mick a boost and Keith had been busted. Mick got very popular, had the Stones make something totally off the wall with UNDERCOVER and then went off the deep end with the awful triplet of SHE'S THE BOSS, DIRTY WORK and PRIMITIVE COOL.
By the big tours of 1989 and 1990 he determined what they were going to do, sound like and look like because of the $$$$$$$$$$$$$.
It's been that way ever since.
That's it in a nutshell.
he and anite enjoyed turning people into junkies and maybe keith felt he had some power or influence on Mick in the 70s. Mick was according to jerry hall, smoking heroin. When he started to change into a even more independent star in the early 80s and at the same time -probably - forced Keith to quit heroin before the 1981 tour Keith probably felt betrayed. He probably realized mick, who pissed off Keith by coworking with ry cooder mick taylor billy preston, didnt need keith creatively anymore. I donth think keith likes independent males.Quote
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GasLightStreet
It all started when Mick got married. It took the air out of the brotherhood Keith had for Mick.
Then SOME GIRLS gave Mick a boost and Keith had been busted. Mick got very popular, had the Stones make something totally off the wall with UNDERCOVER and then went off the deep end with the awful triplet of SHE'S THE BOSS, DIRTY WORK and PRIMITIVE COOL.
By the big tours of 1989 and 1990 he determined what they were going to do, sound like and look like because of the $$$$$$$$$$$$$.
It's been that way ever since.
That's it in a nutshell.
Agree the marriage was a big deal. Anita hated Bianca, according to reports, and I remember Mick telling her that she had to get along with Anita because she was like a band member.
I think Keith really bought the hippie bohemian ideal and Bianca definitely didn't fit into that.
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geordiestoneYes of course my mistake, but there was a degree of seperation because Brian and Keith became so close while Mick was away during the day.Quote
DandelionPowderman
I think Mick lived with them, Geordie (he was still attending LSOE in the daytime) but he became jealous indeed, when Brian and Keith attempted to become the new Everley Brothers in Edith Grove.
According to Phelge's book.
...oh yeah KR and BJ were so tight KR stole Anita from him..
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geordiestoneYes of course my mistake, but there was a degree of seperation because Brian and Keith became so close while Mick was away during the day.Quote
DandelionPowderman
I think Mick lived with them, Geordie (he was still attending LSOE in the daytime) but he became jealous indeed, when Brian and Keith attempted to become the new Everley Brothers in Edith Grove.
According to Phelge's book.
...oh yeah KR and BJ were so tight KR stole Anita from him..
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jlowe
Career wise, they need each other.
The sum of both parts been greater than the individual ones, etc.
yes after Keith finally got Anita until she tried to get Mick. Maybe heroin and Mick realizing the Stones needed Keith not Ry made him smooth things out with Keith. Who knows but it is clear that Mick is the dominant figure in that changing threesome. There is always room for one Möre according to Mick. Keith had a problem with that i think.Quote
DandelionPowderman
"My best friend, he shoots water rats" (1969)...
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jlowe
Career wise, they need each other.
The sum of both parts been greater than the individual ones, etc.
It really is amazing how much better the band is than any of its individual members. They are all talented, of course, but their solo efforts have been astonishingly unimpressive for the most part. I don't think the difference is so stark in any other group.
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lem motlow
they had a falling out because Mick wanted to be a solo star like Michael Jackson and Keith being the real "rolling stone" of the group wanted to keep the band together and was offended that Mick would play with other musicians in place of the Stones.
Because Keith is so amazingly awesome and such a cool dude he allowed Mick to crawl back to the Stones after his solo career failed so miserably.
Jagger was humbled because his records didn't sell,a couple of them only reaching 2 or 3000 copies and people didn't go to his shows,sometimes only a couple of hundred people showed up.
He redeemed himself by writing the band a letter apoligizing for ever leaving and agreed to never do a solo project again.they've been great friends ever since.
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...oh yeah KR and BJ were so tight KR stole Anita from him..
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Turner68
They got bored with one another after all those years (who wouldn't) but are so desperate for the fame and money that they cling to what they have. Not particularly complicated. Their public battles are mostly just clever ways of getting PR.
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DonParker
What would have happened if Jagger had become as succesfull with his own band in the mid-eighties like he did with the Stones ?
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jlowe
I've never considered Mick's solo work to be particularly innovative. Certainly not compared to the likes of Paul Simon, Sting, Peter Gabriel to name but three.
Or for that matter some of the Stones work, YCAGWYA, Street Fighting Man come to mind.
Both lyrically and musically he's mostly played it pretty safe.
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DonParker
the most interesting question to me is: What would have happened if Jagger had become as succesfull with his own band in the mid-eighties like he did with the Stones ?