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Thats definitely NOT Meredith.
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Right on...it's all perspective.
No not Meredith and also, as I remember, there is a scene in the movie where this
man is dancing.
BS. Nobody else in the crowd had any problems with Hunter. Alot of people had problems with the Angels.
I think there were witnesses who saw the Angels starting trouble with hunter was there not?
I see you are still defending the boys in leather who don't fight one on one,
So if the Angles didn't beat up every black guy then its proof to you that they didn't pick on Hunter?
In the movie as you can see they were beating up other black guys and there were not many there. Hunter didn't climb up o the stage, knock over monitors, or knock over some jerks bike. But its telling that you think that anyone near the stage deserved what they got. Sure you were not an Angle yourself? Thats how they acted also.
Maybe once they saw the crowd was too big and their bikes were getting run into their could have moved their bikes out of the way. Just a thought..If their bike's were the most important thing in their lives ( they need new lives ) then move the freaking things so they don't get damaged.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-08-25 09:43 by stanlove.
I never really paid attention beyond the lime green suit. Meredith is sporting a big afro too, unlike this dude.
Thats where Selvins new book hits one out of the park. Those poor souls finally get their due.
Stan,i'm not gonna have this conversation with you if you are gonna start getting emotional again.this is what happened last time,you got upset and said you would fight Hells Angels "one on one".
you should go back and read the thread instead of jumping in on page 3.Had you done that you would have seen my interaction with the Angels,why i think that even though they're dirtbags they still might have been scapegoated to a large extent and you also would've seen Rons answer to my question why the bikes were in front of the stage,all things your post indicates you don't seem to know.
Altamont is one of my favorite Stones topics and i feel lucky to have people like Ron and Swiss to answer questions for me,it's like peeling an onion there are so many layers to it.
i don't expect everyone to agree with me but i'm not buying the peaceful hippie show ruined by attacking bikers story,there were alot of sketchy people at that show.It wasn't the Angels that ran through a campfire and killed two people in a hit and run,it wasn't the Angels who smashed the singer of the band ace of cups in the head with a beer bottle,fracturing her skull.there are many reports of "an angry, stoned and drunken crowd that began fighting amongst themselves as night fell"- there's more here than meets they eye.
I did read your earlier post about your experience with the Angels. It doesn't change anything about Altamonte or what we saw or what was seen by others. It doesn't change the fact that Hunter had no problems with anyone else but the Angels, kind of like everyone else.
Also could you tell me how you know it wasn't an Angel that threw the bottle? I read that it was. And i am not sure why you would even bring up the car accident. Id other people did act up it doesn't change anything about the behavior of the Angles.
My OPINION of the whole thing is it was for the most part a clash of two didn't types of people. Should people have stayed away from the Angels knowing what they were? Yeap. But that doesn't excuse the Angels for being hat they were. I am sure they would not even understand that they did anything wrong. That the problem.
I like most people would never rough up a naked lady or guy for being high and climbing on stage. I like most people would never rough up someone for accidently knocking my bike over. People like you have the attitude that people should have known the Angles were thugs so its their fault for going near them. That does not excuse the Angels for being what they were.
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for whatever reason you've never understood what i was saying and i'm not sure why-let me take another approach.
1.i brought up the "car accident" because bikers ride bikes no?,so we know at least one concertgoer killed two people with a car and took off.
2.i was told the Angels lived by a sort of code,they are batshit crazy but they generally follow it-if you don't mess with them,they don't mess with you.
this was my real life experience also ,what i heard turned out to be true,sooo
3.i'm thinking this looks a little fishy,why are they going into a crowd and attacking people for no reason,so i start digging.
4.if you read enough accounts you find out this wasn't the peaceful acid-weed crowd of woodstock.there were some nasty people there,fckd up on heroin,meth and downers.we know one of them killed two people and ran off,that's a big deal.
Rock Scully said when you'd walk through the crowd going to the bathroom the crowd sitting down would karate chop your legs for fun,just nasty ass mean people.
photographer Jim Marshall who we all know, said he heard Sam Cutler tell the Angels as the Stones were going on"do whatever you have to do,just keep them away from the Stones" not-don't hurt anybody,or just shove them or escort them-but"do whatever you have to do"
you see what i'm getting at? we were sold the story that the "woodstock dream" died at Altamont.what my research has shown me is the dream was dead long before,only thing left was a bunch of dead-eyed zombies.
were the Hells Angels messed up,yeah of course.but their messed up craziness covered the asses for a multitude of others.
Yes I know you claim that their code was they don't mess with anyone who doesn't mess with them first. The problem with people like that is what they consider messing with them. Accidently knocking over their bikes that are parked in everyone's way for example.
You keep bringing up the sleeping bag thing but that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Did the person in the car even know they ran over someone?
I guess there is no sense going on. I can tell you I saw with my own eyes the Angels doing things that day that I don't consider the norm at all and I don't think many would.
I don't think a group standing around and beating a guy on the ground with a pool stick is normal behavior.
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i think it's a different one,this one is from 71 it's just called the Keith Richards interview.i used to have a copy of it and i read and reread it probably ten times over the years.
he says"some of those people were just asking for it,all those naked fat people" and talking about Hunter he said "when it comes to this i get a bit like Charlie,i mean the guy had a gun"-he seemed rather disgusted.
shortfatfanny qouted some of it above but she probably got it off of the website where these comments are deleted.Even though i'm paraphrasing a bit,like i said i read it ten times,i'm hoping someone can find that and post it,
you'll notice in shortfatfannys post he says"if you leave it in front of a million people of course it's gonna get knocked over"
makes me wonder-did he even know you guys asked them to do that or was he just choosing to ignore it?
People always say this but it wasn't any lower then other dates on the tour. Check out the MSQ concert for example.
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Re: New article on Altmont
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2000 LYFH
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Date: August 24, 2016 21:26
Early in the day - The Flying Burrito Brothers (Photo by Beth Bagby)
Later that night... (Photo by Beth Bagby)
Later that night... (Photo by Beth Bagby)
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
lem motlow
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Date: August 24, 2016 23:25
thanks for the great pictures 2000 LYFH -you are illustrating perfectly my question to Ron and his answer,which was awesome by the way and something i never would have seen or thought of.
you can really tell when someone knows what they are talking about-look at the first picture with the Burritos playing,you can see the boxes in the crowd then the later picture of the Stones with the boxes onstage.
of course the crowd are knocking things over,climbing on the stage and basically acting like idiots.
If you read the 1971 Rolling stone magazine interview with Keith he say's "some of those people were just asking for it man",
oddly enough the qoute is deleted from the rolling stone online archive of the interview.
you can really tell when someone knows what they are talking about-look at the first picture with the Burritos playing,you can see the boxes in the crowd then the later picture of the Stones with the boxes onstage.
of course the crowd are knocking things over,climbing on the stage and basically acting like idiots.
If you read the 1971 Rolling stone magazine interview with Keith he say's "some of those people were just asking for it man",
oddly enough the qoute is deleted from the rolling stone online archive of the interview.
Re: New article on Altmont
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MingSubu
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Date: August 25, 2016 00:19
Is that Meredith hunter in the burritos pic?
Re: New article on Altmont
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slakka
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Date: August 25, 2016 00:23
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MingSubu
Is that Meredith hunter in the burritos pic?
Thats definitely NOT Meredith.
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Re: New article on Altmont
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shadooby
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Date: August 25, 2016 01:50
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jlowe
Altmont was a tragedy of course.
But not unique. Music. Sport. High emotions. Drugs.
The Who concert in Cincinnati. Eleven deaths.
Right on...it's all perspective.
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
lem motlow
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Date: August 25, 2016 02:19
it is all perspective and theres more here than meets the eye-if you read what Rock Scully said about Hunter it tells me the Angels saw something there too.
The "redneck bikers picking on innocent black guy" narrative doesn't cut it,that dude was looking for trouble and he found it.
the guy in the sunglasses above is just chillin,he's staying back a bit from the stage and no one is bothering him.that's exactly what i would have done,don't climb on the fckng stage,don't knock the monitors over and certainly don't smash up against those Harleys.
The "redneck bikers picking on innocent black guy" narrative doesn't cut it,that dude was looking for trouble and he found it.
the guy in the sunglasses above is just chillin,he's staying back a bit from the stage and no one is bothering him.that's exactly what i would have done,don't climb on the fckng stage,don't knock the monitors over and certainly don't smash up against those Harleys.
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
shortfatfanny
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Date: August 25, 2016 02:47
Rolling Stone,August 19, 1971
The Keith Richard Interview
KR : " The Angels shouldn't have been asked to do the job.I didn't know if the Angels were still like Marlon Brando had depicted fifteen years before,or whether they'd grown up a little or if they're still into that " don't touch my chromework" bit.
....
They have a whole thing going with their bikes,as we all know now.It's like Sonny Barger, " If you've spent $1700. "
Well,if that's what you want to get together,that's fine but I really don't think if you leave it in front of half a million people,you can't expect it to not to get knocked over. "
The Keith Richard Interview
KR : " The Angels shouldn't have been asked to do the job.I didn't know if the Angels were still like Marlon Brando had depicted fifteen years before,or whether they'd grown up a little or if they're still into that " don't touch my chromework" bit.
....
They have a whole thing going with their bikes,as we all know now.It's like Sonny Barger, " If you've spent $1700. "
Well,if that's what you want to get together,that's fine but I really don't think if you leave it in front of half a million people,you can't expect it to not to get knocked over. "
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
marianna
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Date: August 25, 2016 06:50
Hunter S. Thompson first made a name for himself with a book about the Angels that came out in the mid-'60s. Thompson himself was beaten up by one or more of them. Too bad the Stones apparently didn't read that book before signing off on the security plan.
Re: New article on Altmont
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swimtothemoon
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Date: August 25, 2016 08:22
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slakkaQuote
MingSubu
Is that Meredith hunter in the burritos pic?
Thats definitely NOT Meredith.
No not Meredith and also, as I remember, there is a scene in the movie where this
man is dancing.
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
stanlove
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Date: August 25, 2016 09:31
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lem motlow
it is all perspective and theres more here than meets the eye-if you read what Rock Scully said about Hunter it tells me the Angels saw something there too.
The "redneck bikers picking on innocent black guy" narrative doesn't cut it,that dude was looking for trouble and he found it.
BS. Nobody else in the crowd had any problems with Hunter. Alot of people had problems with the Angels.
I think there were witnesses who saw the Angels starting trouble with hunter was there not?
I see you are still defending the boys in leather who don't fight one on one,
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
stanlove
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Date: August 25, 2016 09:35
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lem motlow
the guy in the sunglasses above is just chillin,he's staying back a bit from the stage and no one is bothering him.that's exactly what i would have done,don't climb on the fckng stage,don't knock the monitors over and certainly don't smash up against those Harleys.
So if the Angles didn't beat up every black guy then its proof to you that they didn't pick on Hunter?
In the movie as you can see they were beating up other black guys and there were not many there. Hunter didn't climb up o the stage, knock over monitors, or knock over some jerks bike. But its telling that you think that anyone near the stage deserved what they got. Sure you were not an Angle yourself? Thats how they acted also.
Maybe once they saw the crowd was too big and their bikes were getting run into their could have moved their bikes out of the way. Just a thought..If their bike's were the most important thing in their lives ( they need new lives ) then move the freaking things so they don't get damaged.
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Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
MingSubu
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Date: August 25, 2016 11:13
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swimtothemoonQuote
slakkaQuote
MingSubu
Is that Meredith hunter in the burritos pic?
Thats definitely NOT Meredith.
No not Meredith and also, as I remember, there is a scene in the movie where this
man is dancing.
I never really paid attention beyond the lime green suit. Meredith is sporting a big afro too, unlike this dude.
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
BroomWagon
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Date: August 25, 2016 11:23
Altamont saw some other deaths though, right? 4 deaths, 2 births but those other deaths were different. Just like Woodstock actually had some deaths. That's up to research.
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
2000 LYFH
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Date: August 25, 2016 17:05
Quote
MingSubuQuote
swimtothemoonQuote
slakkaQuote
MingSubu
Is that Meredith hunter in the burritos pic?
Thats definitely NOT Meredith.
No not Meredith and also, as I remember, there is a scene in the movie where this
man is dancing.
I never really paid attention beyond the lime green suit. Meredith is sporting a big afro too, unlike this dude.
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
bmuseed
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Date: August 25, 2016 18:31
If you are talking about the Rolling Stone, Let It Bleed issue which really launched Rolling Stone--BE AWARE--it had a lot of quotes from me.. I never talked to them!! More press bull to sell papers...you can doubt that Keith said anything to them...
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lem motlow
thanks for the great pictures 2000 LYFH -you are illustrating perfectly my question to Ron and his answer,which was awesome by the way and something i never would have seen or thought of.
you can really tell when someone knows what they are talking about-look at the first picture with the Burritos playing,you can see the boxes in the crowd then the later picture of the Stones with the boxes onstage.
of course the crowd are knocking things over,climbing on the stage and basically acting like idiots.
If you read the 1971 Rolling stone magazine interview with Keith he say's "some of those people were just asking for it man",
oddly enough the qoute is deleted from the rolling stone online archive of the interview.
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
slakka
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Date: August 25, 2016 19:18
Quote
BroomWagon
Altamont saw some other deaths though, right? 4 deaths, 2 births but those other deaths were different. Just like Woodstock actually had some deaths. That's up to research.
Thats where Selvins new book hits one out of the park. Those poor souls finally get their due.
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
lem motlow
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Date: August 25, 2016 19:56
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stanlove
So if the Angles didn't beat up every black guy then its proof to you that they didn't pick on Hunter?
In the movie as you can see they were beating up other black guys and there were not many there. Hunter didn't climb up o the stage, knock over monitors, or knock over some jerks bike. But its telling that you think that anyone near the stage deserved what they got. Sure you were not an Angle yourself? Thats how they acted also.
Maybe once they saw the crowd was too big and their bikes were getting run into their could have moved their bikes out of the way. Just a thought..If their bike's were the most important thing in their lives ( they need new lives ) then move the freaking things so they don't get damaged.
Stan,i'm not gonna have this conversation with you if you are gonna start getting emotional again.this is what happened last time,you got upset and said you would fight Hells Angels "one on one".
you should go back and read the thread instead of jumping in on page 3.Had you done that you would have seen my interaction with the Angels,why i think that even though they're dirtbags they still might have been scapegoated to a large extent and you also would've seen Rons answer to my question why the bikes were in front of the stage,all things your post indicates you don't seem to know.
Altamont is one of my favorite Stones topics and i feel lucky to have people like Ron and Swiss to answer questions for me,it's like peeling an onion there are so many layers to it.
i don't expect everyone to agree with me but i'm not buying the peaceful hippie show ruined by attacking bikers story,there were alot of sketchy people at that show.It wasn't the Angels that ran through a campfire and killed two people in a hit and run,it wasn't the Angels who smashed the singer of the band ace of cups in the head with a beer bottle,fracturing her skull.there are many reports of "an angry, stoned and drunken crowd that began fighting amongst themselves as night fell"- there's more here than meets they eye.
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
stanlove
()
Date: August 25, 2016 21:07
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lem motlowQuote
stanlove
So if the Angles didn't beat up every black guy then its proof to you that they didn't pick on Hunter?
In the movie as you can see they were beating up other black guys and there were not many there. Hunter didn't climb up o the stage, knock over monitors, or knock over some jerks bike. But its telling that you think that anyone near the stage deserved what they got. Sure you were not an Angle yourself? Thats how they acted also.
Maybe once they saw the crowd was too big and their bikes were getting run into their could have moved their bikes out of the way. Just a thought..If their bike's were the most important thing in their lives ( they need new lives ) then move the freaking things so they don't get damaged.
Stan,i'm not gonna have this conversation with you if you are gonna start getting emotional again.this is what happened last time,you got upset and said you would fight Hells Angels "one on one".
you should go back and read the thread instead of jumping in on page 3.Had you done that you would have seen my interaction with the Angels,why i think that even though they're dirtbags they still might have been scapegoated to a large extent and you also would've seen Rons answer to my question why the bikes were in front of the stage,all things your post indicates you don't seem to know.
Altamont is one of my favorite Stones topics and i feel lucky to have people like Ron and Swiss to answer questions for me,it's like peeling an onion there are so many layers to it.
i don't expect everyone to agree with me but i'm not buying the peaceful hippie show ruined by attacking bikers story,there were alot of sketchy people at that show.It wasn't the Angels that ran through a campfire and killed two people in a hit and run,it wasn't the Angels who smashed the singer of the band ace of cups in the head with a beer bottle,fracturing her skull.there are many reports of "an angry, stoned and drunken crowd that began fighting amongst themselves as night fell"- there's more here than meets they eye.
I did read your earlier post about your experience with the Angels. It doesn't change anything about Altamonte or what we saw or what was seen by others. It doesn't change the fact that Hunter had no problems with anyone else but the Angels, kind of like everyone else.
Also could you tell me how you know it wasn't an Angel that threw the bottle? I read that it was. And i am not sure why you would even bring up the car accident. Id other people did act up it doesn't change anything about the behavior of the Angles.
My OPINION of the whole thing is it was for the most part a clash of two didn't types of people. Should people have stayed away from the Angels knowing what they were? Yeap. But that doesn't excuse the Angels for being hat they were. I am sure they would not even understand that they did anything wrong. That the problem.
I like most people would never rough up a naked lady or guy for being high and climbing on stage. I like most people would never rough up someone for accidently knocking my bike over. People like you have the attitude that people should have known the Angles were thugs so its their fault for going near them. That does not excuse the Angels for being what they were.
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Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
lem motlow
()
Date: August 25, 2016 22:25
Quote
stanlove
I did read your earlier post about your experience with the Angels. It doesn't change anything about Altamonte or what we saw or what was seen by others. It doesn't change the fact that Hunter had no problems with anyone else but the Angels, kind of like everyone else.
Also could you tell me how you know it wasn't an Angel that threw the bottle? I read that it was. And i am not sure why you would even bring up the car accident.
for whatever reason you've never understood what i was saying and i'm not sure why-let me take another approach.
1.i brought up the "car accident" because bikers ride bikes no?,so we know at least one concertgoer killed two people with a car and took off.
2.i was told the Angels lived by a sort of code,they are batshit crazy but they generally follow it-if you don't mess with them,they don't mess with you.
this was my real life experience also ,what i heard turned out to be true,sooo
3.i'm thinking this looks a little fishy,why are they going into a crowd and attacking people for no reason,so i start digging.
4.if you read enough accounts you find out this wasn't the peaceful acid-weed crowd of woodstock.there were some nasty people there,fckd up on heroin,meth and downers.we know one of them killed two people and ran off,that's a big deal.
Rock Scully said when you'd walk through the crowd going to the bathroom the crowd sitting down would karate chop your legs for fun,just nasty ass mean people.
photographer Jim Marshall who we all know, said he heard Sam Cutler tell the Angels as the Stones were going on"do whatever you have to do,just keep them away from the Stones" not-don't hurt anybody,or just shove them or escort them-but"do whatever you have to do"
you see what i'm getting at? we were sold the story that the "woodstock dream" died at Altamont.what my research has shown me is the dream was dead long before,only thing left was a bunch of dead-eyed zombies.
were the Hells Angels messed up,yeah of course.but their messed up craziness covered the asses for a multitude of others.
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
stanlove
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Date: August 25, 2016 23:59
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lem motlowQuote
stanlove
I did read your earlier post about your experience with the Angels. It doesn't change anything about Altamonte or what we saw or what was seen by others. It doesn't change the fact that Hunter had no problems with anyone else but the Angels, kind of like everyone else.
Also could you tell me how you know it wasn't an Angel that threw the bottle? I read that it was. And i am not sure why you would even bring up the car accident.
for whatever reason you've never understood what i was saying and i'm not sure why-let me take another approach.
1.i brought up the "car accident" because bikers ride bikes no?,so we know at least one concertgoer killed two people with a car and took off.
2.i was told the Angels lived by a sort of code,they are batshit crazy but they generally follow it-if you don't mess with them,they don't mess with you.
this was my real life experience also ,what i heard turned out to be true,sooo
3.i'm thinking this looks a little fishy,why are they going into a crowd and attacking people for no reason,so i start digging.
4.if you read enough accounts you find out this wasn't the peaceful acid-weed crowd of woodstock.there were some nasty people there,fckd up on heroin,meth and downers.we know one of them killed two people and ran off,that's a big deal.
Rock Scully said when you'd walk through the crowd going to the bathroom the crowd sitting down would karate chop your legs for fun,just nasty ass mean people.
photographer Jim Marshall who we all know, said he heard Sam Cutler tell the Angels as the Stones were going on"do whatever you have to do,just keep them away from the Stones" not-don't hurt anybody,or just shove them or escort them-but"do whatever you have to do"
you see what i'm getting at? we were sold the story that the "woodstock dream" died at Altamont.what my research has shown me is the dream was dead long before,only thing left was a bunch of dead-eyed zombies.
were the Hells Angels messed up,yeah of course.but their messed up craziness covered the asses for a multitude of others.
Yes I know you claim that their code was they don't mess with anyone who doesn't mess with them first. The problem with people like that is what they consider messing with them. Accidently knocking over their bikes that are parked in everyone's way for example.
You keep bringing up the sleeping bag thing but that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Did the person in the car even know they ran over someone?
I guess there is no sense going on. I can tell you I saw with my own eyes the Angels doing things that day that I don't consider the norm at all and I don't think many would.
I don't think a group standing around and beating a guy on the ground with a pool stick is normal behavior.
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Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
lem motlow
()
Date: August 26, 2016 01:33
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bmuseed
If you are talking about the Rolling Stone, Let It Bleed issue which really launched Rolling Stone--BE AWARE--it had a lot of quotes from me.. I never talked to them!! More press bull to sell papers...you can doubt that Keith said anything to them...Quote
lem motlow
thanks for the great pictures 2000 LYFH -you are illustrating perfectly my question to Ron and his answer,which was awesome by the way and something i never would have seen or thought of.
you can really tell when someone knows what they are talking about-look at the first picture with the Burritos playing,you can see the boxes in the crowd then the later picture of the Stones with the boxes onstage.
of course the crowd are knocking things over,climbing on the stage and basically acting like idiots.
If you read the 1971 Rolling stone magazine interview with Keith he say's "some of those people were just asking for it man",
oddly enough the qoute is deleted from the rolling stone online archive of the interview.
i think it's a different one,this one is from 71 it's just called the Keith Richards interview.i used to have a copy of it and i read and reread it probably ten times over the years.
he says"some of those people were just asking for it,all those naked fat people" and talking about Hunter he said "when it comes to this i get a bit like Charlie,i mean the guy had a gun"-he seemed rather disgusted.
shortfatfanny qouted some of it above but she probably got it off of the website where these comments are deleted.Even though i'm paraphrasing a bit,like i said i read it ten times,i'm hoping someone can find that and post it,
you'll notice in shortfatfannys post he says"if you leave it in front of a million people of course it's gonna get knocked over"
makes me wonder-did he even know you guys asked them to do that or was he just choosing to ignore it?
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
shortfatfanny
()
Date: August 26, 2016 03:47
The Keith Richards interview from August 1971 I quoted in my previous post was taken from this Rolling Stones special ,published by Rolling Stone 1975.
I should have mentioned that...
Concerning the "people were asking for it..." passage by Keith you are right,lem.
It's included in this Rolling Stone '75 special edition and in Dominique Tarlé's Exile book,published in 2000, as well.
Given the fact that it's edited out in the Rolling Stone online version one can only speculate about the reason.
I should have mentioned that...
Concerning the "people were asking for it..." passage by Keith you are right,lem.
It's included in this Rolling Stone '75 special edition and in Dominique Tarlé's Exile book,published in 2000, as well.
Given the fact that it's edited out in the Rolling Stone online version one can only speculate about the reason.
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
2000 LYFH
()
Date: August 26, 2016 16:18
Keith Richard August 1971 interview by Robert Greenfield. Scans from the book - "The Rolling Stone Interviews Vol. 2" copyright 1973
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
wonderboy
()
Date: August 26, 2016 17:30
Great interview. Reading that back in about 1980 was one of the first things that got me to realizing Keith was one bright man with a lot of things to say. That's a pretty even-handed analysis, imo -- a lot of things went down, a lot of chaos with the crowd, the management of the tour, the Angels being Angels which is a very menacing outfit.
I don't know how much of it was on the Stones; certainly they learned from it. Keith doesn't go into that, because this was still fresh and because he doesn't very often take the rap for most things.
I love that era when rock journalism was a niche thing and fans like me could seek out those things. If an interview like this was posted today it would be all over the internet and so people today eventually stop talking freely.
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It's off the Altamont subject, but my favorite bit of this interview is the last bit about the Stones meeting the mayor's daughter in 1966 because she won a prize and hanging out with the mayor and his daughter. It would be a great story to track down that girl and get her memories.
I don't know how much of it was on the Stones; certainly they learned from it. Keith doesn't go into that, because this was still fresh and because he doesn't very often take the rap for most things.
I love that era when rock journalism was a niche thing and fans like me could seek out those things. If an interview like this was posted today it would be all over the internet and so people today eventually stop talking freely.
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It's off the Altamont subject, but my favorite bit of this interview is the last bit about the Stones meeting the mayor's daughter in 1966 because she won a prize and hanging out with the mayor and his daughter. It would be a great story to track down that girl and get her memories.
Re: New article on Altmont
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Gaetzi
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Date: August 26, 2016 18:25
I know it was all thrown together last minute but whenever I see pictures it always shocks me how low the stage was.
Re: New article on Altmont
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stanlove
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Date: August 26, 2016 21:43
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Gaetzi
I know it was all thrown together last minute but whenever I see pictures it always shocks me how low the stage was.
People always say this but it wasn't any lower then other dates on the tour. Check out the MSQ concert for example.
Re: New article on Altmont
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Gaetzi
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Date: August 26, 2016 22:55
I guess that poses a bigger question... Even if the stage height was 'industry standard' at the time.. Who thought this was a good idea? Like no one asked "What if we made the stage high enough that kids couldn't just jump on it?" Instead, you have fanatic chicks jumping on stage and charging band members every gig. Sure, the people in the first few rows lose their view and even if the concept of barricades were as foreign in 1969 as cell phones would have been, isn't that a small price to pay to have a secure stage? I guess at the end of the day, I just think it's interesting.
Re: New article on Altmont
Posted by:
bmuseed
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Date: August 27, 2016 03:02
I loved what Keith said about me--I thought it was in a different article...and I am sorry it has taken me so long to give everyone the answers. Soon Soon...
Please note that Keith said that he did not see the murder.
Please note that Keith said that he did not see the murder.
Re: New article on Altmont
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slakka
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Date: August 27, 2016 03:25
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It's off the Altamont subject, but my favorite bit of this interview is the last bit about the Stones meeting the mayor's daughter in 1966 because she won a prize and hanging out with the mayor and his daughter. It would be a great story to track down that girl and get her memories.
I may have a pleasant surprise for you.
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