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(...) Ernie has no rights to the tongue logo, as he worked for Craig Braun (...)
That's a problem between Ernie Cefalu and Craig Braun.
It's a matter of the contract - if it's not specified otherwise, normally all the work of an employee, done during his working time, belongs the employer.Quote
Marshall Chess was asked by Mick Jagger to create a logo for the band. Chess reached out to Craig Braun's company. Craig had one of his artists, Ernie, to do something. He came up with the tongue. He was paid $200, and that was the end of it. After Chess showed it to Mick, Mick felt there was something missing. Given that Mick owned the work having paid $200 for it, he gave it to Pasche, and Pasche created what everyone knows now.
The Rolling Stones' Office in London (UK) contacted John Pasche on 29-Apr-1970 for a Poster and a Logo. - [www.iorr.org]
A short time later John Pasche met with Mick Jagger and Mick showed John Pasche a picture of the Hindu-Goddess 'Kali' regarding the design of the logo. - [www.iorr.org]
Marshall Chess said in an interview: "As soon as we saw John Pasche’s now famous design, there was no doubt that was the one and we bought it outright." - [sabotagetimes.com]
Shortly before the release of 'Sticky Fingers', Craig Braun, owner of the Sound Packaging Corporation, had in New York a deadline and needed the logo. As the tongue design was still unfinished, Craig Braun settled for a rough one-inch version, faxed over from London by Marshall Chess, the founding president of Rolling Stones Records. - [www.nytimes.com]
Craig Braun's in-house illustrators finished the mouth — narrowing the tongue, adding more white accents and a black void for the throat — before blowing it up to cover the entire inside sleeve of the American release. John Pasche’s version was used internationally. Pasche barely noticed: "It was a relaxed affair. I just think things were happening fast and needed to be done, so it was redrawn." - [www.nytimes.com]
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Ernie graduated college in 1969.....first assignment....for a upcoming 1970 campaign. His Dolls Alive was 1969.
It was toward the end of 1969: [rockpopgallery.typepad.com] .
I've only wrote: "it was also not completely new in 1970" (because someone else had a similar idea already in 1967).
Alan Aldridge's Day Tripper illustration (The Beatles Illustrated Lyrics) was btw done before 29-Oct-1969. - [pqasb.pqarchiver.com] .Quote
See, all you date and fact checkers check wrong.
Like your "bad punctuation" facts: [www.iorr.org] ....
(Btw - The Rolling Stones wore the T-Shirts with the Tongue-logo by Ernie Cefalu in 1973 as to see in the Book "The Rolling Stones 50 " (Thames & Hudson, 2012) and at Getty Images.)Quote
You guys debate dates, and the artists are still friends.
Why then this permanently discussion that John Pasche would not have been the first designer of the Stones Tongue & Lips logo ....
The classic original, at least on an official Rolling Stones item.
You Got to Roll Me
95 FULL RESOLUTION TONGUES
Very cool... and the first I have not been slammed by pinterest with a blocking/log-in screen. I have pretty much given up clicking on pinterest links due to that log-in blocking screen alwasy popping up because I am not a member, but for Stones tongues I gave it a try and it worked. Sweet
I asked Ernie the other day if this whole controversy bothers him. His response: "No, as a matter of fact, Pasche and I love it. The more controversy there is, the better it is for us financially".
Ernie has done over 200 albums, and his tongue is presently in a museum owned by the Smithsonian....