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Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: May 15, 2016 14:10

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roller99

And yes, Aldridge did do something with a tongue on it, but so did Ernie.

But of all the various precursors to the Tongue as we now know it, Alan Aldridge's is the most strikingly similar example.

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Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: May 15, 2016 15:00

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roller99

And yes, Aldridge did do something with a tongue on it, but so did Ernie.

But the difference is: Alan Aldridge did it in 1969 and Ernie Cefalu did it in 1971.

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roller99

He [Ernie Cefalu] did a label on a record called "Dolls Alive", which predated all of this.


Yes, but it was also not completely new in 1970 - someone else had a similar already in 1967:


Tom Wesselmann , "Expo Mouth #10" , 1967 - [www.iorr.org] .

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: May 15, 2016 15:58

Not every lips and tongue is a stones tongue.

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: roller99 ()
Date: May 15, 2016 16:41

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Irix
Quote
roller99

And yes, Aldridge did do something with a tongue on it, but so did Ernie.

But the difference is: Alan Aldridge did it in 1969 and Ernie Cefalu did it in 1971.

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roller99

He [Ernie Cefalu] did a label on a record called "Dolls Alive", which predated all of this.


Yes, but it was also not completely new in 1970 - someone else had a similar already in 1967:


Tom Wesselmann , "Expo Mouth #10" , 1967 - [www.iorr.org] .

Irix, is English your second language? Ernie graduated college in 1969.....first assignment....for a upcoming 1970 campaign. His Dolls Alive was 1969.

See, all you date and fact checkers check wrong. And, none of you were there, Ernie was. You guys debate dates, and the artists are still friends. They read this and pity you.

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: peipin ()
Date: May 15, 2016 19:37

ZAZI pop women singer in french. Pub for ritz lacroix ( paper for cigarette )

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: peipin ()
Date: May 15, 2016 19:40

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peipin
ZAZI pop women singer in french. Pub for ritz lacroix ( paper for cigarette )

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: MileHigh ()
Date: May 15, 2016 20:16

The greatest rock band logo in the world. Nothing else beats it!

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: May 16, 2016 03:18


Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: lucifrshmr ()
Date: May 16, 2016 03:40

Here is a tongue I came up with a few years ago.
I'm from Philly, so what else. A Philly Soft Pretzel.
No mustard but lots of salt.


Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: Socrates1 ()
Date: May 16, 2016 10:26


Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: May 16, 2016 10:38

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lucifrshmr
Here is a tongue I came up with a few years ago.
I'm from Philly, so what else. A Philly Soft Pretzel.
No mustard but lots of salt.


I like it.

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: May 16, 2016 18:00

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lucifrshmr
Here is a tongue I came up with a few years ago.
I'm from Philly, so what else. A Philly Soft Pretzel.
No mustard but lots of salt.

A Philly Stones tongue! What's next a Stones tongue eating a cheese steak?

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: May 16, 2016 18:03





               

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: May 16, 2016 18:05

To Post [www.iorr.org] :

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roller99

(...) Ernie has no rights to the tongue logo, as he worked for Craig Braun (...)

That's a problem between Ernie Cefalu and Craig Braun.
It's a matter of the contract - if it's not specified otherwise, normally all the work of an employee, done during his working time, belongs the employer.

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roller99

Marshall Chess was asked by Mick Jagger to create a logo for the band. Chess reached out to Craig Braun's company. Craig had one of his artists, Ernie, to do something. He came up with the tongue. He was paid $200, and that was the end of it. After Chess showed it to Mick, Mick felt there was something missing. Given that Mick owned the work having paid $200 for it, he gave it to Pasche, and Pasche created what everyone knows now.

Counter statement:

The Rolling Stones' Office in London (UK) contacted John Pasche on 29-Apr-1970 for a Poster and a Logo. - [www.iorr.org]

A short time later John Pasche met with Mick Jagger and Mick showed John Pasche a picture of the Hindu-Goddess 'Kali' regarding the design of the logo. - [www.iorr.org]

Marshall Chess said in an interview: "As soon as we saw John Pasche’s now famous design, there was no doubt that was the one and we bought it outright." - [sabotagetimes.com]

Shortly before the release of 'Sticky Fingers', Craig Braun, owner of the Sound Packaging Corporation, had in New York a deadline and needed the logo. As the tongue design was still unfinished, Craig Braun settled for a rough one-inch version, faxed over from London by Marshall Chess, the founding president of Rolling Stones Records. - [www.nytimes.com]

Craig Braun's in-house illustrators finished the mouth — narrowing the tongue, adding more white accents and a black void for the throat — before blowing it up to cover the entire inside sleeve of the American release. John Pasche’s version was used internationally. Pasche barely noticed: "It was a relaxed affair. I just think things were happening fast and needed to be done, so it was redrawn." - [www.nytimes.com]

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roller99

Ernie graduated college in 1969.....first assignment....for a upcoming 1970 campaign. His Dolls Alive was 1969.

It was toward the end of 1969: [rockpopgallery.typepad.com] .

I've only wrote: "it was also not completely new in 1970" (because someone else had a similar idea already in 1967).

Alan Aldridge's Day Tripper illustration (The Beatles Illustrated Lyrics) was btw done before 29-Oct-1969. - [pqasb.pqarchiver.com] .

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roller99

See, all you date and fact checkers check wrong.

Like your "bad punctuation" facts: [www.iorr.org] .... sad smiley

(Btw - The Rolling Stones wore the T-Shirts with the Tongue-logo by Ernie Cefalu in 1973 as to see in the Book "The Rolling Stones 50 " (Thames & Hudson, 2012) and at Getty Images.)

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roller99

You guys debate dates, and the artists are still friends.

Why then this permanently discussion that John Pasche would not have been the first designer of the Stones Tongue & Lips logo .... confused smiley



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Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: May 16, 2016 18:45

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exilestones

It's the "Kisses" urinal - designed by Meike van Schijndel in 2001: [www.Facebook.com] , Cool Chica Design.



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Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: May 16, 2016 19:20


1982

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: May 17, 2016 19:59


Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: May 17, 2016 20:04





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Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: May 17, 2016 20:12

John Pasche's original logo is the best.


Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: May 17, 2016 20:13



I edited to this, the link expired.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2019-06-23 06:39 by GasLightStreet.

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: May 17, 2016 21:40

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GasLightStreet

The classic original, at least on an official Rolling Stones item.

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: May 18, 2016 07:51










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Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
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Date: May 18, 2016 08:53


Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
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Date: May 18, 2016 08:55


Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: May 18, 2016 18:41























































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Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: May 18, 2016 20:37

German museum sparks controversy with Rolling Stones inspired urinals




A set of urinals, which have been designed in the shape of the pair of lips that feature as The Rolling Stones logo, have drawn criticism from feminist campaign groups.


The urinals, which are pictured on the top and right of your screen, have been put in the Rolling Stones fan museum, which is soon to open in the small northern German town of Luechow.

The lips were designed by graphic designer John Pasche in 1971 and were modeled on the Mick Jagger's large mouth, but according to local campaigners, they encourage "discrimination against women''.

According to the Los Angeles Times, Roda Armbruster, a feminist who lives in the area, described the lips as "discrimination against women. If the urinals sported a tongue, it would have been acceptable because the identification with the band and Jagger would have been unmistakable. Without it, it's a woman's mouth, not a man's mouth."


The museum's founder Ulrich Schroeder has denied that the fixtures represent a man's mouth or a woman's mouth or anyone's mouth and has said that despite the criticism, the urinals will be staying.

[www.nme.com]

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: May 18, 2016 22:50

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exilestones



A set of urinals, which have been designed in the shape of the pair of lips that feature as The Rolling Stones logo, have drawn criticism from feminist campaign groups.


Funny: the "Kisses" urinal (as pictured above) has been designed in 2001 by a woman - Meike van Schijndel:

[www.coolchica.nl]

Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: wakyrs ()
Date: May 18, 2016 23:39


Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: May 19, 2016 00:05


Re: Rolling Stones Tongues
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: May 19, 2016 16:13

Amazing collection above!




                                     

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