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So, given available info, it seems more likely that this is a later recording of Keith playing to some people
that was captured on a cassette recording rather than a demo of the song before the stones recorded it in December 1969.
It's from the so-called Honeymoon Tapes. 1983.
Keith playing acoustic in a hotel room with some people.
You folks need to get ahold of that whole bootleg,
if only to avoid being misled into thinking those are demos.
(And a lot of them are quite fine - you'll enjoy them)
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Every fan should own the Honeymoon Tapes
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None of the available version runs at the right speed!
Keef often sounds like a chipmunk on these...
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I agree with that.
My point about Exile not necessarily being their creative peak period would still be valid, though.
In a way, yes. "Exile" is a myth. This whole "Nellcote-recorded in Keith's basement"-thing... In fact it's the Stones first "cleaning of the vaults"-project, kind of a "Tattoo You Vol. 1". But the thing is they did not need to be all too creative - or better: productive in songwriting terms for Exile because of all the quality stuff from previous years begging for release. And just like for "Tattoo You" years later, all that was needed was just a handful of "new" songs to complete the picture.
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The primary argument against a Jagger solo record is, I think, the success of Doom and Gloom. It didn't burn up the charts particularly, but it was critically well received, and is, generally, a well recorded, well written track. Even if the Stones are just the session players to flesh out his demos, there's a worthwhile record to be made there.
Doom and gloom was largely ignored except by those annoyed at the space it took in their set list. It was a gimmick to sell copies of Grrr. They would have been better off doing a chuck berry cover. In my opinion.
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Let It Loose was one of the EOMS tracks recorded at Nellcote but not used for EOMS, the EOMS versions is from around the time they did Shine A Light, in 1969.
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At least there were only TWO new tracks for CURRRRR instead of 4 like they did for FORTY LICKS, which ruined disc 2 of that comp.
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GasLightStreet
At least there were only TWO new tracks for CURRRRR instead of 4 like they did for FORTY LICKS, which ruined disc 2 of that comp.
Doom And Gloom --- absolutely brilliant
One More Shot --- very good
Don´t Stop --- very good
Stealing My Heart --- very good
Keys To Your Love --- very good
Losing My Touch --- gorgeous
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At least there were only TWO new tracks for CURRRRR instead of 4 like they did for FORTY LICKS, which ruined disc 2 of that comp.
Doom And Gloom --- absolutely brilliant
One More Shot --- very good
Don´t Stop --- very good
Stealing My Heart --- very good
Keys To Your Love --- very good
Losing My Touch --- gorgeous
Here's my assessment:Doom And Gloom
One More Shot
Don´t Stop
Stealing My Heart
Keys To Your Love
Losing My Touch --- not bad
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I like Keys To Your Love. Nice soul tune.
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I like Keys To Your Love. Nice soul tune.
Ya know I had to revisit that and Stealing My Heart to reacquaint myself with them before making my above assessment.
'Keys' starts off nice enough, and the music and instrumentation is quite pleasant throughout.
Nice and subtle riff/rhythm guitar, quality drumming, subtle bass, and a tasty little lead.
But...and this is a big one (albeit not surprising)....Micks vocals destroy it imo.
Loud, abrasive, over-exaggerated, whiney, nasally, snotty, etc.
And the lyrics are sappy and cheesy:
"Yeah it don't seem to matter, who's right and who's wrong
I want to tell you how I feel now, in the words of this song"
I wonder what the breakdown on the writing credits is for this tune.
And I must have missed this on the track talk thread, so pardon me for laying it on thick in this thread.
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Edit: always thought his Please please me cover was from the 90s or 00s.
He did one during the VL sessions as well (on Voodoo Brew, if memory serves...).
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corriecas
Please dandelion,
Could you post it, the Complete HoneymoonTapes, on We transfer, please.
Thanks.
jeroen
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corriecas
Please dandelion,
Could you post it, the Complete HoneymoonTapes, on We transfer, please.
Thanks.
jeroen
HERE it is, jeroen.
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GasLightStreet
Let It Loose was one of the EOMS tracks recorded at Nellcote but not used for EOMS, the EOMS versions is from around the time they did Shine A Light, in 1969.
No, they didn't record backing tracks of Let It Loose in France, they simply overdubbed on to the 1969/70 Olympic Studios recording possibly in France, definitely in LA.
Additionally, the Loving Cup mentioned in that list are both from June 1969, those being the rougher drunk electric guitars versions. Neither appeared on 1972 Exile release.
The Loving Cup in bold is this one with the weird edits: [www.youtube.com]
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Those 4 new LICKS songs... Don't Stop is OK, at least it's got a beat to it, and Losing My Touch is nicely done. The other two stink the place up. They're 4th rate filler. There's ZERO about them that stand out (other than how bad they are). Keys To Your Love and Stealing My Heart sound like the Stones working really hard at not sounding like the Stones, which in the past worked great for the most part.
They're just a bunch of noise. They make most of A BIGGER BANG sound like EXILE.
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Those 4 new LICKS songs... Don't Stop is OK, at least it's got a beat to it, and Losing My Touch is nicely done. The other two stink the place up. They're 4th rate filler. There's ZERO about them that stand out (other than how bad they are). Keys To Your Love and Stealing My Heart sound like the Stones working really hard at not sounding like the Stones, which in the past worked great for the most part.
They're just a bunch of noise. They make most of A BIGGER BANG sound like EXILE.
A bit harsh, maybe, but as usual the proof is in the pudding - I never feel the desire to listen to these tracks. They're just so...pale in comparison to other Stones material. Don't Stop is, agreed, quite ok, and would have been enough for 40 Licks. I used to like it more back then, but it wore off so quickly.