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DandelionPowderman
The "riff" Mick wrote for BS, how did it sound?
We hear what he got at MSG in 1969.
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DandelionPowderman
The "riff" Mick wrote for BS, how did it sound?
We hear what he got at MSG in 1969.
It doesn't matter, the riff is not song writing.
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His Majesty
I'll be very surprised if there is a new Rolling Stones album next year.
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DandelionPowderman
Not even when it changes the melody?
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HMS
In their "musical language" the Stones have everything already said and done what there is to be said and done... the Stones have nothing new to say, probably the main reason for not recording a new album for a decade. They have used up their vocabulary. Have a look on Keith´s Crosseyed Heart: It is a very good and solid album, but there is absolutely nothing on it what we haven´t heard already. If they announce a new album most people expect automatically a sensational masterpiece but those days are gone, because - like I said before - everything is already said and done.
You do know that Willie Nelson has SIXTY EIGHT studio albums, right?
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DandelionPowderman
I think people will hum the opening riff when asked to hum the song, just like with SMU
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His Majesty
If it's Keith he's clearly playing it for people who are there.
Very unlikely it's from before they had recorded the song though.
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His Majesty
If it's Keith he's clearly playing it for people who are there.
Very unlikely it's from before they had recorded the song though.
Yeah that sounds like way later.
Edit: read the comment. http://www.openculture.com/2015/08/hear-demos-of-keith-richards-singing-lead-vocals-on-rolling-stones-classics-gimme-shelter-wild-horses-more.html
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DandelionPowderman
I agree with that.
My point about Exile not necessarily being their creative peak period would still be valid, though.
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His Majesty
If it's Keith he's clearly playing it for people who are there.
Very unlikely it's from before they had recorded the song though.
Yeah that sounds like way later.
Edit: read the comment. http://www.openculture.com/2015/08/hear-demos-of-keith-richards-singing-lead-vocals-on-rolling-stones-classics-gimme-shelter-wild-horses-more.html
Well, well, well - there you have it. I guess my initial assumption of it being a demo may have been right after all.
Thanks for finding the info. Redhotcarpet.
"On the other hand, Richard’s unadorned acoustic demo of “Wild Horses,” above, gets right to the heart of the song,
sounding more like his friend Gram Parsons’ mournful early version than the later 1971 release on Sticky Fingers".
Don't know how accurate it is, but I have no reason to doubt it.
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His Majesty
If it's Keith he's clearly playing it for people who are there.
Very unlikely it's from before they had recorded the song though.
Yeah that sounds like way later.
Edit: read the comment. http://www.openculture.com/2015/08/hear-demos-of-keith-richards-singing-lead-vocals-on-rolling-stones-classics-gimme-shelter-wild-horses-more.html
Well, well, well - there you have it. I guess my initial assumption of it being a demo may have been right after all.
Thanks for finding the info. Redhotcarpet.
"On the other hand, Richard’s unadorned acoustic demo of “Wild Horses,” above, gets right to the heart of the song,
sounding more like his friend Gram Parsons’ mournful early version than the later 1971 release on Sticky Fingers".
Don't know how accurate it is, but I have no reason to doubt it.
It's not a demo.
"Keith’s solo version of Wild Horses is not a demo, but an informal private recording made 12 years after the Rolling Stones had released the song."
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His Majesty
If it's Keith he's clearly playing it for people who are there.
Very unlikely it's from before they had recorded the song though.
Yeah that sounds like way later.
Edit: read the comment. http://www.openculture.com/2015/08/hear-demos-of-keith-richards-singing-lead-vocals-on-rolling-stones-classics-gimme-shelter-wild-horses-more.html
Well, well, well - there you have it. I guess my initial assumption of it being a demo may have been right after all.
Thanks for finding the info. Redhotcarpet.
"On the other hand, Richard’s unadorned acoustic demo of “Wild Horses,” above, gets right to the heart of the song,
sounding more like his friend Gram Parsons’ mournful early version than the later 1971 release on Sticky Fingers".
Don't know how accurate it is, but I have no reason to doubt it.
It's not a demo.
"Keith’s solo version of Wild Horses is not a demo, but an informal private recording made 12 years after the Rolling Stones had released the song."
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In their "musical language" the Stones have everything already said and done what there is to be said and done... the Stones have nothing new to say, probably the main reason for not recording a new album for a decade. They have used up their vocabulary. Have a look on Keith´s Crosseyed Heart: It is a very good and solid album, but there is absolutely nothing on it what we haven´t heard already. If they announce a new album most people expect automatically a sensational masterpiece but those days are gone, because - like I said before - everything is already said and done.
You do know that Willie Nelson has SIXTY EIGHT studio albums, right?
I´m not familiar with Nelson´s musical output but I could very well imagine that at least 35-40 albums are just variations of the albums before.
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Hairball
???
So maybe the above link is totally inaccurate?
Are you pulling my leg? Informal private recording?? 12 years after???
I'm not doubting you as it's all a mystery really, but am now really curious.
Where does this info. you post come from?
And if true, then my 2nd assumption was correct.
edit: Just saw your post/explanation Turner and that makes sense.
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His Majesty
So, given available info, it seems more likely that this is a later recording of Keith playing to some people
that was captured on a cassette recording rather than a demo of the song before the stones recorded it in December 1969.
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tommycharles
The primary argument against a Jagger solo record is, I think, the success of Doom and Gloom. It didn't burn up the charts particularly, but it was critically well received, and is, generally, a well recorded, well written track. Even if the Stones are just the session players to flesh out his demos, there's a worthwhile record to be made there.
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His Majesty
So, given available info, it seems more likely that this is a later recording of Keith playing to some people
that was captured on a cassette recording rather than a demo of the song before the stones recorded it in December 1969.
It's from the so-called Honeymoon Tapes. 1983.
Keith playing acoustic in a hotel room with some people.
You folks need to get ahold of that whole bootleg,
if only to avoid being misled into thinking those are demos.
(And a lot of them are quite fine - you'll enjoy them)
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Rocky Dijon
If you'll allow me to answer for our beautiful with sssoul in her absence, there is some conversation. Patti's there and sounds blissfully stoned and Stroker takes a lot of verbal abuse from Keith. I believe you have from stories from Cabo San Lucas, do you not, Naturalust?
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tommycharles
The primary argument against a Jagger solo record is, I think, the success of Doom and Gloom. It didn't burn up the charts particularly, but it was critically well received, and is, generally, a well recorded, well written track. Even if the Stones are just the session players to flesh out his demos, there's a worthwhile record to be made there.
Doom and gloom was largely ignored except by those annoyed at the space it took in their set list. It was a gimmick to sell copies of Grrr. They would have been better off doing a chuck berry cover. In my opinion.
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Turner68
Indeed Rocky I believe you've advanced a theory in the past that Stroker might be Naturalist?