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DandelionPowderman
Mick Taylor wrote JJF.
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Naturalust
Turner, nice thought but there already is a Wiki out there and it is filled with information (and some misinformation) about the Stones. People write books about the Stones which are not entirely factual, hell Stones write books about the Stones that are not entirely factual.
As a forum I love the debate as much as anyone and usually when someone comes up with the truth by whatever method, it is pretty quickly acknowledged and people are appreciative. I don't think anyone is intentionally trying to put bad information out there but when it happens it usually gets called out pretty quick.
In my opinion, no need to change things, we've got enough common sense and Stones knowledge here that things will rarely veer into total fantasy. There is an art to expressing opinions and theories without getting people all stirred up and I most appreciate posters who are versed in it.
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Turner68
where is the wiki for the stones? i didn't know about it...
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where is the wiki for the stones? i didn't know about it...
Just the regular Wikipedia. Just about every song, record, studio, tour, associate, etc. has it's own page and some of them are incredibly detailed.
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DandelionPowderman
Bill wanted to fire Mick.
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where is the wiki for the stones? i didn't know about it...
Just the regular Wikipedia. Just about every song, record, studio, tour, associate, etc. has it's own page and some of them are incredibly detailed.
i think there are a lot of facts that are contained is this forum that aren't captured there, that is my point. this forum is both a place for discussion as well as for learning facts about the stones. that can cause confusion and disagreement, e.g. the debate that his been raging about one person asserting that bill wyman wrote the JJF riff.
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where is the wiki for the stones? i didn't know about it...
Just the regular Wikipedia. Just about every song, record, studio, tour, associate, etc. has it's own page and some of them are incredibly detailed.
i think there are a lot of facts that are contained is this forum that aren't captured there, that is my point. this forum is both a place for discussion as well as for learning facts about the stones. that can cause confusion and disagreement, e.g. the debate that his been raging about one person asserting that bill wyman wrote the JJF riff.
Bill Wyman started that debate...though not directly in this forum.
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DandelionPowderman
Bill wanted to fire Mick.
Jagger was upset he couldn't fire Keith... according to Mick Taylor.
Someone wanted to fire Ronnie in the 80s - but I don't recall where that really originated = though the 2nd part of that claim was the dreadful notion of replacing him (temporarily?) with George Thorogood.
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where is the wiki for the stones? i didn't know about it...
Just the regular Wikipedia. Just about every song, record, studio, tour, associate, etc. has it's own page and some of them are incredibly detailed.
i think there are a lot of facts that are contained is this forum that aren't captured there, that is my point. this forum is both a place for discussion as well as for learning facts about the stones. that can cause confusion and disagreement, e.g. the debate that his been raging about one person asserting that bill wyman wrote the JJF riff.
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Bill wanted to fire Mick.
Jagger was upset he couldn't fire Keith... according to Mick Taylor.
Someone wanted to fire Ronnie in the 80s - but I don't recall where that really originated = though the 2nd part of that claim was the dreadful notion of replacing him (temporarily?) with George Thorogood.
if keith had been "fired" i think he would have produced something very similar to EOMS.
i think mick would have gone in roughly the direction of elton john.
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Turner68
that's right, bill wyman is the one person who has asserted that.
Yes of course why else remember it, go public in 1982, put it in a book in 1989 (?) and when asked still confirm this? It doesn't sound like imagination. This is not Keith saying Muddy painted the goddamn ceiling.Quote
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agreed. and i believe that he believes he did. who knows, maybe he did.
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SweetThing
Someone wanted to fire Ronnie in the 80s - but I don't recall where that really originated = though the 2nd part of that claim was the dreadful notion of replacing him (temporarily?) with George Thorogood.
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Someone wanted to fire Ronnie in the 80s - but I don't recall where that really originated = though the 2nd part of that claim was the dreadful notion of replacing him (temporarily?) with George Thorogood.
Sometimes I wonder how the Stones managed to produce such great music when the principals don't seem to have anything like a good understanding of what made it great. There's wanting to replace Bill with "a black bass player" in 1970 or whenever it was...
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Someone wanted to fire Ronnie in the 80s - but I don't recall where that really originated = though the 2nd part of that claim was the dreadful notion of replacing him (temporarily?) with George Thorogood.
Sometimes I wonder how the Stones managed to produce such great music when the principals don't seem to have anything like a good understanding of what made it great. There's wanting to replace Bill with "a black bass player" in 1970 or whenever it was, the guitarists they auditioned when Mick Taylor quit, and this.
I'm not all that keen on Ronnie's contributions to the band, but George Thorogood?! He's technically OK I guess, and he "rocks" I guess, but his stuff seems pretty sterile from what I've heard of it.
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Someone wanted to fire Ronnie in the 80s - but I don't recall where that really originated = though the 2nd part of that claim was the dreadful notion of replacing him (temporarily?) with George Thorogood.
Sometimes I wonder how the Stones managed to produce such great music when the principals don't seem to have anything like a good understanding of what made it great. There's wanting to replace Bill with "a black bass player" in 1970 or whenever it was, the guitarists they auditioned when Mick Taylor quit, and this.
I'm not all that keen on Ronnie's contributions to the band, but George Thorogood?! He's technically OK I guess, and he "rocks" I guess, but his stuff seems pretty sterile from what I've heard of it.
Yes, no desire to bash GT, but Ronnie even at his low point was still essential to The Stones - dumping him would've been a real problem for me. Its either Ronnie or MT to make it work - hard to imagine someone else at that point.
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Naturalust
LOL You guys are taking yourselves a bit too seriously to be suggesting that people reading the forum, new member or not, can't think for themselves when it comes to believing what they read. There are so many conflicting opinions on this thread alone anyone with a brain is going to figure out pretty quickly that no one knows what the hell they are talking about.
I agree, and I think musicians-guitarists in particular - have an ego/opinion that is boosted by their hero/heroes, be it Keith,Taylor, Wood, Jones or whomever. People that don't play an instrument often just follow their intuition, and of course age is a factor. People that grew up during Jones or Taylor years favour that music very often, while people born around the late 6-tees/early 7-tees often prefer the Wood years. Ive never seen any statistics though.