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In Glyn Johns' book he says they were going to play Wild Horses but Richards fell asleep while tuning his 12 string, haha. Do you guys think Taylor would have play acoustic, electric, or electric with a slide? Man I would have loved to hear Taylor on Wild Horses, it's perfect for his style.
Glyn Johns had a thick dumb when he wrote that. Pure nonsense of course, like so many quotes from people involved back then.
They DID rehearse Wild Horses, with Richards on 12-string and Taylor on 6-string acoustic. For whatever reason it didn't work. Then, there are statements from several people that Richards turned up at the Marquee totally wasted, and actually crashed on stage during the rehearsal.
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kleermaker
I agree with the comment on Midnight Rambler. I like this version now even more than the much praised Roundhouse version.
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Mr.D
For me the real treat on this set is Brown Sugar from TOTP, the quality is better than the Marquee footage on my TV...who plays sax on this?
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I Got The Blues - alternate take 2 (step 10) is NEW
Bitch - alternate take 1 (step 11) is the SAME as the TV show version (step 7)
I Got The Blues (track #3) is a hybrid of alternate take 1 (first part) and alternate take 2 (end part)
Bitch tracks #7 and #11/alternate take 1
are identical to my ears. Although different track-lengths due to applause...
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I think this is the poorest of the four SF shows we now have.
But it's enjoyable, even though the sound is a bit muddy and the guitars are dry. A great restoration, though. Not Mick or Keith's proudest moments, imo.
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GJV
Question: is there a photo booklet with the Marquee LP? At my version there isn't, so I'm curious if it is missing, or not.
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Mathijs
Watched it a couple of times now, but there isn't much to like about it. Yes it is nice to see the Stones on stage in 71, but it is just an awful gig. This isn't a testimony the Stones of the early 70's deserve.
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Watched it a couple of times now, but there isn't much to like about it. Yes it is nice to see the Stones on stage in 71, but it is just an awful gig. This isn't a testimony the Stones of the early 70's deserve.
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I find it a very fine gig and listen to it often. Dead Flowers, I Got The Blues, Midnight Rambler, Satisfaction, Bitch, Brown Sugar. How can one not love it, being into Stones music? Even Live With Me and Let It Rock are really okay.
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I hope they would re-release a sonically upgraded version of LADIES AND GENTLEMEN as well. That important concert film deserves that. MARQUEE shows that it is possible.
- Doxa
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I hope they would re-release a sonically upgraded version of LADIES AND GENTLEMEN as well. That important concert film deserves that. MARQUEE shows that it is possible.
- Doxa
I belive there was quite a lot of remastering being done before L&G was re-released on dvd/blu-ray in 2010. The picture quality is actually great, the audio quality is not. It's too wide and loose, and clearly lacks any punch.
Still, I don't think we will get L&G in better quality than we already have. What they did to improve the quality before the 2010 re-release was probably all they could do.
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I hope they would re-release a sonically upgraded version of LADIES AND GENTLEMEN as well. That important concert film deserves that. MARQUEE shows that it is possible.
- Doxa
I belive there was quite a lot of remastering being done before L&G was re-released on dvd/blu-ray in 2010. The picture quality is actually great, the audio quality is not. It's too wide and loose, and clearly lacks any punch.
Still, I don't think we will get L&G in better quality than we already have. What they did to improve the quality before the 2010 re-release was probably all they could do.
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tornnfrayed
The quality on the 2010 release of L and G was only marginally better than some bootlegs versions of the movie over the years.
I too would hope that one day we will get a really clean version but at this point I am not expecting it.
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The quality on the 2010 release of L and G was only marginally better than some bootlegs versions of the movie over the years.
I too would hope that one day we will get a really clean version but at this point I am not expecting it.
Maybe the original camera negative lies in a warehouse somewhere in Vermont buried in piles of XXX footage?
I mean some pristine film elements of Orson Wells' "Falstaff" were found this year by the guys at Distribpix hidden among tons of porn reels,
XXX movie buffs if one day you happen to discover 70's color footage where a young animated man wiggles his ass to "Brown Sugar" it's not gay porn it's the 1st reel of L&G!
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The quality on the 2010 release of L and G was only marginally better than some bootlegs versions of the movie over the years.
I too would hope that one day we will get a really clean version but at this point I am not expecting it.
Maybe the original camera negative lies in a warehouse somewhere in Vermont buried in piles of XXX footage?
I mean some pristine film elements of Orson Wells' "Falstaff" were found this year by the guys at Distribpix hidden among tons of porn reels,
XXX movie buffs if one day you happen to discover 70's color footage where a young animated man wiggles his ass to "Brown Sugar" it's not gay porn it's the 1st reel of L&G!
They were talking about the audio quality, my friend, not about the pictures. The latter was a nice improvement, but the audio of L&G official is just ridiculously bad and a big disappointment, especially compared to the recent 1971 live releases of Leeds, Roundhouse and Marquee.
It would be a great treat if we would get L&G in the same audio quality as the 1971 live releases. But it won't happen.
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tornnfrayed
The quality on the 2010 release of L and G was only marginally better than some bootlegs versions of the movie over the years.
I too would hope that one day we will get a really clean version but at this point I am not expecting it.
Maybe the original camera negative lies in a warehouse somewhere in Vermont buried in piles of XXX footage?
I mean some pristine film elements of Orson Wells' "Falstaff" were found this year by the guys at Distribpix hidden among tons of porn reels,
XXX movie buffs if one day you happen to discover 70's color footage where a young animated man wiggles his ass to "Brown Sugar" it's not gay porn it's the 1st reel of L&G!
They were talking about the audio quality, my friend, not about the pictures. The latter was a nice improvement, but the audio of L&G official is just ridiculously bad and a big disappointment, especially compared to the recent 1971 live releases of Leeds, Roundhouse and Marquee.
It would be a great treat if we would get L&G in the same audio quality as the 1971 live releases. But it won't happen.
Frankly I think the audio comes from the film reel they used for the remastered dvd. I highly doubt there were any multi-track audio tapes available to remix, like there was for Marquee '71. This is might why it sounds so freakin bad. Even audio deteriorates when film reels are stored badly.
There may have been multi-tracks for the individual shows which the movie is made from. But maybe they were too lazy to dig out the tapes from each of those shows and only remix a few songs from each concert, so they simply took the audio they already had on the film.
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tornnfrayed
The quality on the 2010 release of L and G was only marginally better than some bootlegs versions of the movie over the years.
I too would hope that one day we will get a really clean version but at this point I am not expecting it.
Maybe the original camera negative lies in a warehouse somewhere in Vermont buried in piles of XXX footage?
I mean some pristine film elements of Orson Wells' "Falstaff" were found this year by the guys at Distribpix hidden among tons of porn reels,
XXX movie buffs if one day you happen to discover 70's color footage where a young animated man wiggles his ass to "Brown Sugar" it's not gay porn it's the 1st reel of L&G!
They were talking about the audio quality, my friend, not about the pictures. The latter was a nice improvement, but the audio of L&G official is just ridiculously bad and a big disappointment, especially compared to the recent 1971 live releases of Leeds, Roundhouse and Marquee.
It would be a great treat if we would get L&G in the same audio quality as the 1971 live releases. But it won't happen.
Frankly I think the audio comes from the film reel they used for the remastered dvd. I highly doubt there were any multi-track audio tapes available to remix, like there was for Marquee '71. This is might why it sounds so freakin bad. Even audio deteriorates when film reels are stored badly.
There may have been multi-tracks for the individual shows which the movie is made from. But maybe they were too lazy to dig out the tapes from each of those shows and only remix a few songs from each concert, so they simply took the audio they already had on the film.
The extremely bad audio from L&G 2010 was always a mystery for me, too! But this is the first plausible explanation, thanks for that!
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Mathijs
Watched it a couple of times now, but there isn't much to like about it. Yes it is nice to see the Stones on stage in 71, but it is just an awful gig. This isn't a testimony the Stones of the early 70's deserve.
Mathijs
I find it a very fine gig and listen to it often. Dead Flowers, I Got The Blues, Midnight Rambler, Satisfaction, Bitch, Brown Sugar. How can one not love it, being into Stones music? Even Live With Me and Let It Rock are really okay.