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looking down at the floor, it seemed sort of chaotic--impossibly long lines for merch, booze and bathrooms. you'd think for the money being spent,they might give you a bit more down there.
Being on the floor SUCKED! It felt like being at Altamont. Seriously. I hope Elite never gets to run an event there again.
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Disappointing set list but what r u gonna do
dunno...maybe stop complaining about it?
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Disappointing set list but what r u gonna do
dunno...maybe stop complaining about it?
When will you stop complaining about people complaining? Maybe BV should make a rule that says everyone has to think the same...then you'll be happier.
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Quit shamelessly dissing other posters and I'd have nothing to respond to. I certainly don't stalk your posts, it's hard to avoid them. I'm just trying to nicely point out that complaining about posters serves no purpose. This is about the Stones not your personal feelings for other posters who feel differently than you. It's about common courtesy and respect for others, even those with different opinions than yours.
Don't like that Mr. X doesn't like the set list, post what you like about it instead of calling Mr. X a senile grumpy ole man. Pretty simple really.
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looking down at the floor, it seemed sort of chaotic--impossibly long lines for merch, booze and bathrooms. you'd think for the money being spent,they might give you a bit more down there.
Being on the floor SUCKED! It felt like being at Altamont. Seriously. I hope Elite never gets to run an event there again.
Security did a terrible job...they thought they were more important than they were. Some goon stood right against the rail in front of me...glaring into the crowd. I wanted to ask him to step back a bit, but....
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Ok...I just watched the Jack Flash video...tell me the guitars don't sound off right from the beginning. Keef just isn't hitting it like he always has...this is his favorite song (probably b/c it is my favorite song...he's cool like that)...and he seems totally uninspired. Juxtapose this with him at say Wembley in 1999 when he I'm watching him talking to his guitar "ooh yeah baby...@#$%& yeah..."...now that was magic. I really felt he missed it on Flash last night & it took the air out of the song for me. Maybe I listen too closely & should just enjoy the "vibe" (b/c who cares how the Stones sound...right?...insert eye roll here).
Sorry, but those opening chords on Flash are super important...at least for me...and it just wasn' there. Also...so many songs ended in noodling rather than a tough emphatic ending. Charlie was perfect of course...how can he not be?
And going back to another point...how is it Keef & Ronnie just stood by Charlie? This is show business...where is the show? Keef has the classic poses that defines rock god. Last night, he seemed to have a smile on his face that reminded me of my grandfather. I'm really not knocking the Stones or Keef (my favorite musician of all time), I'm just calling it like I see it. Being excited to see the gig isn't the same as the gig being great.
That said...it was still the greatest Stones show ever...because that is what people say when they went to a Stones show.
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looking down at the floor, it seemed sort of chaotic--impossibly long lines for merch, booze and bathrooms. you'd think for the money being spent,they might give you a bit more down there.
Being on the floor SUCKED! It felt like being at Altamont. Seriously. I hope Elite never gets to run an event there again.
Security did a terrible job...they thought they were more important than they were. Some goon stood right against the rail in front of me...glaring into the crowd. I wanted to ask him to step back a bit, but figured he'd shoot me and some judge would say he saw me reach into my waistband...common these days it seems.
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Quit shamelessly dissing other posters and I'd have nothing to respond to. I certainly don't stalk your posts, it's hard to avoid them. I'm just trying to nicely point out that complaining about posters serves no purpose. This is about the Stones not your personal feelings for other posters who feel differently than you. It's about common courtesy and respect for others, even those with different opinions than yours.
Don't like that Mr. X doesn't like the set list, post what you like about it instead of calling Mr. X a senile grumpy ole man. Pretty simple really.
peace
That would be an adult way of responding. Some people just can't take it when others disagree. A few posters responded intelligently to the complaints -- explained why they thought it was a good setlist. They made good arguments. As opposed to the constant whiners who can't deal with a contrary opinion so they just throw insults.
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Ok...I just watched the Jack Flash video...tell me the guitars don't sound off right from the beginning. Keef just isn't hitting it like he always has...this is his favorite song (probably b/c it is my favorite song...he's cool like that)...and he seems totally uninspired. Juxtapose this with him at say Wembley in 1999 when he I'm watching him talking to his guitar "ooh yeah baby...@#$%& yeah..."...now that was magic. I really felt he missed it on Flash last night & it took the air out of the song for me. Maybe I listen too closely & should just enjoy the "vibe" (b/c who cares how the Stones sound...right?...insert eye roll here).
Sorry, but those opening chords on Flash are super important...at least for me...and it just wasn' there. Also...so many songs ended in noodling rather than a tough emphatic ending. Charlie was perfect of course...how can he not be?
And going back to another point...how is it Keef & Ronnie just stood by Charlie? This is show business...where is the show? Keef has the classic poses that defines rock god. Last night, he seemed to have a smile on his face that reminded me of my grandfather. I'm really not knocking the Stones or Keef (my favorite musician of all time), I'm just calling it like I see it. Being excited to see the gig isn't the same as the gig being great.
That said...it was still the greatest Stones show ever...because that is what people say when they went to a Stones show.
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Leonioid
There is difference between replying directly to someone/attacking someone directly... versus making a general comment about something in general.
If someone makes a general comment about something and it is not directed at anyone specific then it should not make anyone feel offended, unless someone is just looking to cause trouble or play IORR cop.
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There is difference between replying directly to someone/attacking someone directly... versus making a general comment about something in general.
If someone makes a general comment about something and it is not directed at anyone specific then it should not make anyone feel offended, unless someone is just looking to cause trouble or play IORR cop.
It has nothing to do with being offended. You never said anything to me and I am not offended by what you write. I do think that it is profoundly stupid to be surprised or bothered by "setlist complainers" "whiners" or any other such stupid term. It's not a matter of offensive. It's just dumb and boring and adolescent, that's all, regardless of your parsing about general vs. specific. Adults disagree.
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gotdablouse, thanks for posting the opener, JJF!
NL, really enjoyed your review. I'm so glad you got the show you could appreciate and share with us!
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looking down at the floor, it seemed sort of chaotic--impossibly long lines for merch, booze and bathrooms. you'd think for the money being spent,they might give you a bit more down there.
Being on the floor SUCKED! It felt like being at Altamont. Seriously. I hope Elite never gets to run an event there again.
Security did a terrible job...they thought they were more important than they were. Some goon stood right against the rail in front of me...glaring into the crowd. I wanted to ask him to step back a bit, but....
Man, that is bummer.
I hate it when that happens, and usually the better the seats we have the more likely it is. I can think of 5 concerts that are memorable because of some goon that affected the show, just by standing there blocking our view. It feels like they are staring at us the whole as we are trying to have fun. Man it is drag to some guy glaring all night long.
Which is why I have come to love GA floors (with reserved balconeys). It allows us to move it on over if/when we do not like the area we are in or the people we are around.
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looking down at the floor, it seemed sort of chaotic--impossibly long lines for merch, booze and bathrooms. you'd think for the money being spent,they might give you a bit more down there.
Being on the floor SUCKED! It felt like being at Altamont. Seriously. I hope Elite never gets to run an event there again.
Security did a terrible job...they thought they were more important than they were. Some goon stood right against the rail in front of me...glaring into the crowd. I wanted to ask him to step back a bit, but....
Man, that is bummer.
I hate it when that happens, and usually the better the seats we have the more likely it is. I can think of 5 concerts that are memorable because of some goon that affected the show, just by standing there blocking our view. It feels like they are staring at us the whole as we are trying to have fun. Man it is drag to some guy glaring all night long.
Which is why I have come to love GA floors (with reserved balconeys). It allows us to move it on over if/when we do not like the area we are in or the people we are around.
I've had that experience several times. Pay insane money to be down front, only to get a lecture about filming, pictures, etc. and then be stared at through the entire show by a bottom feeder who acts like he's Secret Service and I'm Lee Harvey Oswald.
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Frankly, last night was the first time I thought the Stones showed their age (I was front row Ronnie side). The solos seemed to be a bit lost, the song openings seemed confuse, the song endings seemed confused, Ronnie & Keef didn't seem to work the stage at all (mostly just stood in front of the drum kit)...and Keef said we were about to get Can't Be Seen...and switched it out for Before They Make Me Run.
Jagger still seemed to be an energetic miracle, but the vocals were more talking/shouting than singing (yes, I know...this isn't new...just to a new level).
I had a good time, but it was the first time I didn't feel "this band is a FORCE." I get it was opening night...perhaps a bag of nerves in the mix. I'm sure the solos & endings will get tighter...but I don't get why the guitarists didn't put on a bit of a show (geez...didn't think Ronnie could avoid putting one on he's such a ham).
Oh, and on Shelter, Lisa didn't really stretch like she did back on Bridges. I'm sure her pipes are fine...but this missing piece seemed to fit the show...juiced up & sloppy. The show was a concert...not an event.
Just my 2 cents...I'm sure others think it was the greatest thing ever.
Thank you for an honest review, something that lacks on this board more often than not.
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looking down at the floor, it seemed sort of chaotic--impossibly long lines for merch, booze and bathrooms. you'd think for the money being spent,they might give you a bit more down there.
Being on the floor SUCKED! It felt like being at Altamont. Seriously. I hope Elite never gets to run an event there again.
Security did a terrible job...they thought they were more important than they were. Some goon stood right against the rail in front of me...glaring into the crowd. I wanted to ask him to step back a bit, but....
Man, that is bummer.
I hate it when that happens, and usually the better the seats we have the more likely it is. I can think of 5 concerts that are memorable because of some goon that affected the show, just by standing there blocking our view. It feels like they are staring at us the whole as we are trying to have fun. Man it is drag to some guy glaring all night long.
Which is why I have come to love GA floors (with reserved balconeys). It allows us to move it on over if/when we do not like the area we are in or the people we are around.
I've had that experience several times. Pay insane money to be down front, only to get a lecture about filming, pictures, etc. and then be stared at through the entire show by a bottom feeder who acts like he's Secret Service and I'm Lee Harvey Oswald.
They turn it into a no fun zone. Give me a GA floor every show, I am happy to stand back 5 feet from the back of the mob and scoot around as needed. That is usually the equivalent of about 20-25th row (as long as the balconey seat are reserved keeping most of the crowd off the floor. This is my favorite set up)
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Frankly, last night was the first time I thought the Stones showed their age (I was front row Ronnie side). The solos seemed to be a bit lost, the song openings seemed confuse, the song endings seemed confused, Ronnie & Keef didn't seem to work the stage at all (mostly just stood in front of the drum kit)...and Keef said we were about to get Can't Be Seen...and switched it out for Before They Make Me Run.
Jagger still seemed to be an energetic miracle, but the vocals were more talking/shouting than singing (yes, I know...this isn't new...just to a new level).
I had a good time, but it was the first time I didn't feel "this band is a FORCE." I get it was opening night...perhaps a bag of nerves in the mix. I'm sure the solos & endings will get tighter...but I don't get why the guitarists didn't put on a bit of a show (geez...didn't think Ronnie could avoid putting one on he's such a ham).
Oh, and on Shelter, Lisa didn't really stretch like she did back on Bridges. I'm sure her pipes are fine...but this missing piece seemed to fit the show...juiced up & sloppy. The show was a concert...not an event.
Just my 2 cents...I'm sure others think it was the greatest thing ever.
Thank you for an honest review, something that lacks on this board more often than not.
What is it about this review that makes you think it's more "honest" than ones you find lacking? Is it because you attended the concert and agreed with it or what? I wouldn't imagine anyone on here is making up their review, one way or the other, which is what you insinuate. Why would they do that?