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Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Date: May 25, 2015 22:13

It was the best CYHMK by the band I've heard since the studio version. No need to comment on the ingredients, as the whole was so strong, imo.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: Nikkei ()
Date: May 25, 2015 22:13

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Ronnie did a great solo on CYHMK last night. Mick Taylor who? When?

I listened to it, but to spare your feelings I won't comment on it.

I didn't hear a single flubbed note on that Knocking solo. Ronnies tone was also very warm and sustained like the studio version.
If you refuse to even comment on it Kleermaker, we'd have to assume you're at a loss for words.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: May 25, 2015 22:55

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Ronnie did a great solo on CYHMK last night. Mick Taylor who? When?

I listened to it, but to spare your feelings I won't comment on it.

I didn't hear a single flubbed note on that Knocking solo. Ronnies tone was also very warm and sustained like the studio version.
If you refuse to even comment on it Kleermaker, we'd have to assume you're at a loss for words.

Yeah Ronnie's tones were indeed great last night as were Keith's. Ronnie did a fine job all night. He really didn't stretch like Taylor would have and CYHMK was actually one of the few tunes where MT could have taken it further and was missed.

But, for those that missed last night because of Taylor's absence all I can say is you missed a great Stones show and I would advise to try to catch another one on the tour. Taylor fans are generally guitar-centric types and the guitars were sounding especially good. The push and pull of the musicians against each other made up for the dazzling solos and MT musicianship and really brought out the best of the songs and the special dynamics which make the Stones so great.

In retrospect, the looser jammy feel they had last night would have been a perfect platform for Taylor's playing but they rocked hard without him. None of the Taylor fans in my group walked away with a "if only he had been there" feeling, and that's pretty amazing knowing them. But, I'm still holding out hope he will be a guest on some future shows in Europe.

peace

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: Stoneburst ()
Date: May 25, 2015 23:18

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Nikkei
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roller99
Ronnie did a great solo on CYHMK last night. Mick Taylor who? When?

I listened to it, but to spare your feelings I won't comment on it.

I didn't hear a single flubbed note on that Knocking solo. Ronnies tone was also very warm and sustained like the studio version.
If you refuse to even comment on it Kleermaker, we'd have to assume you're at a loss for words.

Indeed, no flubs, and his tone was good, but the solo didn't go anywhere.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: Leonioid ()
Date: May 25, 2015 23:21

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....but the solo didn't go anywhere.
That does not even makes sense.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: LuxuryStones ()
Date: May 25, 2015 23:35

Useless arguments. Let me post my favourite version. Neither Taylor, Wood, nor Keith and Jagger ever could or can reproduce this version. Not a by a mile imo.




Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: May 25, 2015 23:43

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Ronnie did a great solo on CYHMK last night. Mick Taylor who? When?

I listened to it, but to spare your feelings I won't comment on it.

I didn't hear a single flubbed note on that Knocking solo. Ronnies tone was also very warm and sustained like the studio version.
If you refuse to even comment on it Kleermaker, we'd have to assume you're at a loss for words.

Indeed, no flubs, and his tone was good, but the solo didn't go anywhere.

Yes, same passable solo as his previous attempts but there's really no point in comparing it with what Taylor offered in 2013, apples and oranges, raw musicianship and talent vs good natured journeyman, something that does the job vs something that elevates the song and the other musicians.

Same goes for MR [www.youtube.com] where instead of the risk taking soloing by Taylor, San Diego got Wood clowning around on the center ramp for 20 seconds, oh and Jagger pushed him around to get him to do something prior to that. Inconceivable for him to do that with Taylor, certainly a more relaxed anything goes, "good fun" atmosphere.

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Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: mtaylor ()
Date: May 25, 2015 23:48




Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: LuxuryStones ()
Date: May 25, 2015 23:53

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grinning smiley Second best.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: mtaylor ()
Date: May 25, 2015 23:58

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grinning smiley Second best.

The best in the middle, the second best(s) on the sides smileys with beer

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: May 26, 2015 00:00

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Useless arguments. Let me post my favourite version. Neither Taylor, Wood, nor Keith and Jagger ever could or can reproduce this version. Not a by a mile imo.



Indeed. And I've been waiting....

peace

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: roller99 ()
Date: May 26, 2015 00:23

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Ronnie did a great solo on CYHMK last night. Mick Taylor who? When?

I listened to it, but to spare your feelings I won't comment on it.

Well, Lisa Fischer just did on my FB page: "Ronnie absolutely tore up CYHMK last night". She thinks he did an awesome job, as do I.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: andrewt ()
Date: May 26, 2015 00:47

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Ronnie did a great solo on CYHMK last night. Mick Taylor who? When?

I listened to it, but to spare your feelings I won't comment on it.

I didn't hear a single flubbed note on that Knocking solo. Ronnies tone was also very warm and sustained like the studio version.
If you refuse to even comment on it Kleermaker, we'd have to assume you're at a loss for words.

Indeed, no flubs, and his tone was good, but the solo didn't go anywhere.

Yeah, it went nowhere. I'm no guitar genius but even I could hear that. He even f^cked up and went into the end bit early, then had to recover and vamp till the actual end. Ronnie has many highlights these days, but this was not one of them.



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Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Date: May 26, 2015 00:51

Ronnie always plays that bit twice. He did it in 2002/2003 as well.

Good decision not to drag the song out too long, imo.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: Nikkei ()
Date: May 26, 2015 00:56

Why ain't it possible that he touched on the end bit intentionally?
In literature you would call such a figure the "retarding element" and it's part of the buildup of a drama. And a solo that leads into a final riff clearly goes somewhere.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: LuxuryStones ()
Date: May 26, 2015 00:59

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Useless arguments. Let me post my favourite version. Neither Taylor, Wood, nor Keith and Jagger ever could or can reproduce this version. Not a by a mile imo.

Indeed. And I've been waiting....

peace

You shouldn't, Naturalist, just enjoy the current versions. thumbs up

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Date: May 26, 2015 01:00

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Why ain't it possible that he touched on the end bit intentionally?
In literature you would call such a figure the "retarding element" and it's part of the buildup of a drama. And a solo that leads into a final riff clearly goes somewhere.

He did it intentionally, because he always does that.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: May 26, 2015 01:01

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Ronnie always plays that bit twice. He did it in 2002/2003 as well.

Good decision not to drag the song out too long, imo.

yeah I agree, as in playing it over a third or fourth time.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: Stoneburst ()
Date: May 26, 2015 01:17

Not sure why we're discussing Ronnie's playing on CYHMK last night when a) this is a Mick Taylor thread and b) there's a separate thread devoted to the Petco Park show

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Date: May 26, 2015 01:21

I agree.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: shortfatfanny ()
Date: May 26, 2015 01:21

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Stoneburst
Not sure why we're discussing Ronnie's playing on CYHMK last night when a) this is a Mick Taylor thread and b) there's a separate thread devoted to the Petco Park show

As far as I know a certain MT played on the original studio version.That might be reason enough.


Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: May 26, 2015 01:25

Just listened to the MR video. Good heavens what a difference with the ones with Taylor! Any Stones cover band could produce this version easily. Amateurish and very weak.



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Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: LuxuryStones ()
Date: May 26, 2015 01:26

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one of his representatives is giving Mick a compliment after a series of natural harmonics, at 0:15: "Great shot".

I didn't know Taylor played basketball on stage.

Didn't you teach him ?

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: May 26, 2015 01:30

Whats the real reason about the absence of MT this tour?
I don't get it really, they are playing the same setlist type since 2012, and from yesterday show, MT played on 4 songs on this tour: CYHMK, Slipping Away, MR and Satisfaction.
Its a mystery to me.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: May 26, 2015 01:31

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Stoneburst
Not sure why we're discussing Ronnie's playing on CYHMK last night when a) this is a Mick Taylor thread and b) there's a separate thread devoted to the Petco Park show

Stoneburst, maybe because this Knocking - and MR as well - show what a huge difference it indeed makes if Taylor is included or not on those songs. It's so conspicuous.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: May 26, 2015 01:33

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one of his representatives is giving Mick a compliment after a series of natural harmonics, at 0:15: "Great shot".

I didn't know Taylor played basketball on stage.

Didn't you teach him ?

I beg your pardon? What is this supposed to mean?

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: Turner68 ()
Date: May 26, 2015 01:33

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Whats the real reason about the absence of MT this tour?
I don't get it really, they are playing the same setlist type since 2012, and from yesterday show, MT played on 4 songs on this tour: CYHMK, Slipping Away, MR and Satisfaction.
Its a mystery to me.

Because he hasn't been a member of the band for 40 years?

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Date: May 26, 2015 01:37

Both versions were highlights of the show. MM as well. It makes no sense to try to degrade those versions, as we heard them in good quality via an audio stream.

Let's move on to Taylor. How about that solo album with great songs and a really good band? I'd like to hear that. Taylor getting the space he needs to express himself properly.

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: May 26, 2015 01:40

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Whats the real reason about the absence of MT this tour?
I don't get it really, they are playing the same setlist type since 2012, and from yesterday show, MT played on 4 songs on this tour: CYHMK, Slipping Away, MR and Satisfaction.
Its a mystery to me.

Because he hasn't been a member of the band for 40 years?

And?
He played almost 60 shows with them during the last 3 years and now he's gone ?
The show is the same .

Re: Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: May 26, 2015 01:48

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Both versions were highlights of the show. MM as well. It makes no sense to try to degrade those versions, as we heard them in good quality via an audio stream.

Let's move on to Taylor. How about that solo album with great songs and a really good band? I'd like to hear that. Taylor getting the space he needs to express himself properly.

Okay.

But I disagree totally with you concerning those 'highlights' (though I must say Jagger and Chuck didn't a bad job on MM) and I compared those two songs with the same sort of videos from the previous world tour. They just showed me the staggering difference in quality.



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