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Silver Dagger
Just a curious point on Rene's musician credits - Dave Mason on bass drum? Are you sure? Wouldn't Charlie's bass drum have been enough and is that Dave Mason at the very beginning with that grand tub thumping?
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Keith 1977
Street Fighting Man was all acoustics. There's no electric guitar parts in it. (Even the high-end lead part was through) a cassette player with no limiter. Just distortion. Just two acoustics, played right into the mike, and hit very hard. There's a sitar in the back, too. That would give the effect of the high notes on the guitar. And Charlie was playing his little 1930s drummer's practice kit. It was all sort of built into a little attaché case, so some drummer who was going to his gig on the train could open it up - with two little things about the size of small tambourines without the bells on them, and the skin was stretched over that. And he set up this little cymbal, and this little hi-hat would unfold. Charlie sat right in front of the microphone with it. I mean, this drum sound is massive. When you're recording, the size of things has got nothing to do with it. It's how you record them. Everything there was totally acoustic. The only electric instrument on there is the bass guitar, which I overdubbed afterwards.
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Charlie 2003
Street Fighting Man was recorded on Keith's cassette with a 1930s toy drum kit called a London Jazz Kit Set, which I bought in an antiques shop, and which I've still got at home. It came in a little suitcase, and there were wire brackets you put the drums in; they were like small tambourines with no jangles. The whole kit packs away, the drums go inside each other, the little drum goes inside the snare drum into a box with the cymbal. The snare drum was fantastic because it had a really thin skin with a snare right underneath, but only two strands of gut... Keith would be sitting on a cushion playing a guitar and the tiny kit was a way of getting close to him. The drums were really loud compared to the acoustic guitar and the pitch of them would go right through the sound. You'd always have a great backbeat.
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drewmaster
Hats off to Silver Dagger and with sssoul for two brilliant posts!
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Silver Dagger
Just a curious point on Rene's musician credits - Dave Mason on bass drum? Are you sure? Wouldn't Charlie's bass drum have been enough and is that Dave Mason at the very beginning with that grand tub thumping?
It could have been necessary to record a bass drum later, since Charlie was only playing
on some kind of traveller's drumkit, als Keith and Charlie described it:Quote
Keith 1977
Street Fighting Man was all acoustics. There's no electric guitar parts in it. (Even the high-end lead part was through) a cassette player with no limiter. Just distortion. Just two acoustics, played right into the mike, and hit very hard. There's a sitar in the back, too. That would give the effect of the high notes on the guitar. And Charlie was playing his little 1930s drummer's practice kit. It was all sort of built into a little attaché case, so some drummer who was going to his gig on the train could open it up - with two little things about the size of small tambourines without the bells on them, and the skin was stretched over that. And he set up this little cymbal, and this little hi-hat would unfold. Charlie sat right in front of the microphone with it. I mean, this drum sound is massive. When you're recording, the size of things has got nothing to do with it. It's how you record them. Everything there was totally acoustic. The only electric instrument on there is the bass guitar, which I overdubbed afterwards.Quote
Charlie 2003
Street Fighting Man was recorded on Keith's cassette with a 1930s toy drum kit called a London Jazz Kit Set, which I bought in an antiques shop, and which I've still got at home. It came in a little suitcase, and there were wire brackets you put the drums in; they were like small tambourines with no jangles. The whole kit packs away, the drums go inside each other, the little drum goes inside the snare drum into a box with the cymbal. The snare drum was fantastic because it had a really thin skin with a snare right underneath, but only two strands of gut... Keith would be sitting on a cushion playing a guitar and the tiny kit was a way of getting close to him. The drums were really loud compared to the acoustic guitar and the pitch of them would go right through the sound. You'd always have a great backbeat.
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OzHeavyThrobber
As good as it gets. It has been played live with some thunder since 1994. I prefer it to the 69 into 70 versions (which I love anyway).
It copped the pounding delivery it deserves on the Licks tour. Song of the tour for me.
I like "Everybody pay their dues" too but they way they finalised it is perfect to me.
Just simply put - a fuking diamond!
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NICOS
A brilliant piece of mess.............
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DandelionPowderman
I think both the studio version and the Stripped version are pure excellence. The former has more energy, of course, but the acoustic version on Stripped is magnificently recorded.
Live it's usually all about energy, and the melody tends to get lost somewhere along the way, imo. That said, they're all lovely in different ways.
They never would have obtained the aggressiveness of the studio version had they cut it with electric guitars, imo.
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DandelionPowderman
I think both the studio version and the Stripped version are pure excellence. The former has more energy, of course, but the acoustic version on Stripped is magnificently recorded.
Live it's usually all about energy, and the melody tends to get lost somewhere along the way, imo. That said, they're all lovely in different ways.
They never would have obtained the aggressiveness of the studio version had they cut it with electric guitars, imo.
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DandelionPowderman
Do you know where my copy was released, Mike?
I thought it was a british release...
Near the bottom of the page: [www.iorr.org]
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DandelionPowderman
Do you know where my copy was released, Mike?
I thought it was a british release...
Near the bottom of the page: [www.iorr.org]
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DandelionPowderman
Do you know where my copy was released, Mike?
I thought it was a british release...
Near the bottom of the page: [www.iorr.org]
Not sure. I think it was printed in the UK but released in other UK Commonwealth countries. The Stones or rather Decca made special export albums and singles. There is a another UK export version of Out of Our Heads with different track listing.