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Redhotcarpet
I dont know anything about the Kinks and I discovered them far too late. They were always mentioned in the magazines or the books but still totally underrated by me. Is it the imo pretty lame bandname and their bleak image compared to Who, Stones, Velvet, Doors or Beatles? They failed to find new teen fans in the 1980s, 90s? Somehow their outside the retro era of the late 80s early 90s.
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DandelionPowderman
I love every Kinks-era. Here's a brilliant show from 1979 - when they were touring behind several big current hits:
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Redhotcarpet
I dont know anything about the Kinks and I discovered them far too late. They were always mentioned in the magazines or the books but still totally underrated by me. Is it the imo pretty lame bandname and their bleak image compared to Who, Stones, Velvet, Doors or Beatles? They failed to find new teen fans in the 1980s, 90s? Somehow their outside the retro era of the late 80s early 90s.
the kinks had a more bleak image than the velvet underground
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Redhotcarpet
I dont know anything about the Kinks and I discovered them far too late. They were always mentioned in the magazines or the books but still totally underrated by me. Is it the imo pretty lame bandname and their bleak image compared to Who, Stones, Velvet, Doors or Beatles? They failed to find new teen fans in the 1980s, 90s? Somehow their outside the retro era of the late 80s early 90s.
the kinks had a more bleak image than the velvet underground
Also, totally not true about new fans, at least in the 80s. I recall the live album 'One For The Road' in the late 70s was pretty big in high schools, followed up with the 1981 retro single Destroyer and album 'Give The People What They Want' and then what can only be described as a 'smash' single (at least in Kinkstory) in 1983, Come Dancing and the glorious Don't Forget To Dance from the album State of Confusion.
I even bought Word of Mouth, which has that great Dave Davies song whose title escapes me for the moment.
So perhaps that renaissance petered out by the 90s, but the 80s was solid.
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I dont know anything about the Kinks and I discovered them far too late. They were always mentioned in the magazines or the books but still totally underrated by me. Is it the imo pretty lame bandname and their bleak image compared to Who, Stones, Velvet, Doors or Beatles? They failed to find new teen fans in the 1980s, 90s? Somehow their outside the retro era of the late 80s early 90s.
the kinks had a more bleak image than the velvet underground
Also, totally not true about new fans, at least in the 80s. I recall the live album 'One For The Road' in the late 70s was pretty big in high schools, followed up with the 1981 retro single Destroyer and album 'Give The People What They Want' and then what can only be described as a 'smash' single (at least in Kinkstory) in 1983, Come Dancing and the glorious Don't Forget To Dance from the album State of Confusion.
I even bought Word of Mouth, which has that great Dave Davies song whose title escapes me for the moment.
So perhaps that renaissance petered out by the 90s, but the 80s was solid.
The Kinks didn't really break through in America (or world-wide) before the late 70s. The 1979 One For The Road-video/live album (see the video above) is loaded with big late 70s hits, and was the first stadium/big arena tour the Kinks ever did.
The popularity lasted more or less through the Word Of Mouth-album in 1984.
Ironically, imo, their best albums came when the group was at the nadir of their popularity (1966-1976) - although I enjoy their late 70s-early 80s albums.
With Think Visual (1986) and UK Jive (1989), the Kinks lost a lot of fans. Phobia (1993) was a really good album, imo. The heavy metal-flirting title track is genius!
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Redhotcarpet
I dont know anything about the Kinks and I discovered them far too late. They were always mentioned in the magazines or the books but still totally underrated by me. Is it the imo pretty lame bandname and their bleak image compared to Who, Stones, Velvet, Doors or Beatles? They failed to find new teen fans in the 1980s, 90s? Somehow their outside the retro era of the late 80s early 90s.
the kinks had a more bleak image than the velvet underground
Also, totally not true about new fans, at least in the 80s. I recall the live album 'One For The Road' in the late 70s was pretty big in high schools, followed up with the 1981 retro single Destroyer and album 'Give The People What They Want' and then what can only be described as a 'smash' single (at least in Kinkstory) in 1983, Come Dancing and the glorious Don't Forget To Dance from the album State of Confusion.
I even bought Word of Mouth, which has that great Dave Davies song whose title escapes me for the moment.
So perhaps that renaissance petered out by the 90s, but the 80s was solid.
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Redhotcarpet
I dont know anything about the Kinks and I discovered them far too late. They were always mentioned in the magazines or the books but still totally underrated by me. Is it the imo pretty lame bandname and their bleak image compared to Who, Stones, Velvet, Doors or Beatles? They failed to find new teen fans in the 1980s, 90s? Somehow their outside the retro era of the late 80s early 90s.
the kinks had a more bleak image than the velvet underground
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I dont know anything about the Kinks and I discovered them far too late. They were always mentioned in the magazines or the books but still totally underrated by me. Is it the imo pretty lame bandname and their bleak image compared to Who, Stones, Velvet, Doors or Beatles? They failed to find new teen fans in the 1980s, 90s? Somehow their outside the retro era of the late 80s early 90s.
the kinks had a more bleak image than the velvet underground
Also, totally not true about new fans, at least in the 80s. I recall the live album 'One For The Road' in the late 70s was pretty big in high schools, followed up with the 1981 retro single Destroyer and album 'Give The People What They Want' and then what can only be described as a 'smash' single (at least in Kinkstory) in 1983, Come Dancing and the glorious Don't Forget To Dance from the album State of Confusion.
I even bought Word of Mouth, which has that great Dave Davies song whose title escapes me for the moment.
So perhaps that renaissance petered out by the 90s, but the 80s was solid.
OK didnt know that. Did they have a revival in the early 80s? I still dont see how they could compete with huge image and influential groups and artists like Velvet (second most influential band ever) or the Doors (like it or not, Morrisson will always be a huge influence and they had some truly great albums and songs) or the Who (always in fashion, always influential in fashion and music). I remember kids trying hard to be Morrisson or the Who in the late 80s early 90s. Kinks was just some group mentioned in articles about the 60s.
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michaelsavage
They could not do arenas in the USA. They could do places like the Beacon Theatre.
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big4
People's ignorance of the Kinks music and popularity, not to mention influence is disappointing.
Much more than a 60s pop band-even in the 60s! No band more successfully married British dance hall to British invasion with punk, art rock, arena rock, folk, heavy metal power chords.
Ray Davies one of the great lyricists of all time. The Kinks were huge, filling up arenas from late 70s to mid-80s. Word of Mouth is an underappreciated gem and Think Visual is pretty good as well.
The Kinks were also hurt by their 1965-1969 touring ban here in the States.
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michaelsavage
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Agreed but they would never sell out Madison Sq Garden. Would rather see them in the Beacon anyway
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Redhotcarpet
I dont know anything about the Kinks and I discovered them far too late. They were always mentioned in the magazines or the books but still totally underrated by me. Is it the imo pretty lame bandname and their bleak image compared to Who, Stones, Velvet, Doors or Beatles? They failed to find new teen fans in the 1980s, 90s? Somehow their outside the retro era of the late 80s early 90s.
the kinks had a more bleak image than the velvet underground
Yes absolutely. Velvet Underground is still a goldmine for fashion, music, attitude, image, art etc.
The Kinks is a 60s pop band.
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I dont know anything about the Kinks and I discovered them far too late. They were always mentioned in the magazines or the books but still totally underrated by me. Is it the imo pretty lame bandname and their bleak image compared to Who, Stones, Velvet, Doors or Beatles? They failed to find new teen fans in the 1980s, 90s? Somehow their outside the retro era of the late 80s early 90s.
the kinks had a more bleak image than the velvet underground
Also, totally not true about new fans, at least in the 80s. I recall the live album 'One For The Road' in the late 70s was pretty big in high schools, followed up with the 1981 retro single Destroyer and album 'Give The People What They Want' and then what can only be described as a 'smash' single (at least in Kinkstory) in 1983, Come Dancing and the glorious Don't Forget To Dance from the album State of Confusion.
I even bought Word of Mouth, which has that great Dave Davies song whose title escapes me for the moment.
So perhaps that renaissance petered out by the 90s, but the 80s was solid.
OK didnt know that. Did they have a revival in the early 80s? I still dont see how they could compete with huge image and influential groups and artists like Velvet (second most influential band ever) or the Doors (like it or not, Morrisson will always be a huge influence and they had some truly great albums and songs) or the Who (always in fashion, always influential in fashion and music). I remember kids trying hard to be Morrisson or the Who in the late 80s early 90s. Kinks was just some group mentioned in articles about the 60s.
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The point is I thought you were baiting people in the Beatles thread, is it getting boring over there?
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oldschool
I love the Kinks but can't see them filling MSG these days. I agree with whomever said they are more of a theater band these days. maybe multiple nights at the Beacon or Boston Orpheum but can't see them filling up arenas at this stage of their career.
This is a great boot taken from WGV stream
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oldschool
I love the Kinks but can't see them filling MSG these days. I agree with whomever said they are more of a theater band these days. maybe multiple nights at the Beacon or Boston Orpheum but can't see them filling up arenas at this stage of their career.
This is a great boot taken from WGV stream
[www.collectorsmusicreviews.com]