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stonesrule
Lem, you're crazy! Are you telling us that Bobby Vee won't have another hit?
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Aquamarine
It's gone as a popular form of music? Am I hallucinating all these bands and my fellow audience members? Bands play all over the world every day--not nostalgia bands--so how can it be gone?
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lem motlow
oh for gods sake....give me the names of ten rock bands who had number one records in the last decade.
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stonesrule
Aquamarine, my soul sister, did you know that Bobby Vee was...is...one of Bob Dylan's faves? Two mid-western boys and all that.
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BlackHat
The record buying public as a whole are not really interested, the band themselves don't seem to be interested. Whilst I don't think A Bigger Bang is as bad as some people on here make it out to be I don't think they have the energy or the motivation to do anything better that will do them justice. Who would they be doing a new album for? A small collection of obsessives who once they had the thrill of unwrapping the album would then tear it to pieces after the first listen and proclaim it to b a dud.
If they have any inspiration then they should just let tracks out as they come via itunes but the days of them being able or willing to produce a cohesive album that can stand next to their body of work are gone.
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24FPS
When was the last time any rock artist released an album that a huge audience cared about?
If that was an accurate yardstick, does that mean should all rock 'artists' just cease making new records? So the genre then just becomes swamped with nostalgia acts and then dies a natural death when those acts are consigned to history?
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24FPS
When was the last time any rock artist released an album that a huge audience cared about?
If that was an accurate yardstick, does that mean should all rock 'artists' just cease making new records? So the genre then just becomes swamped with nostalgia acts and then dies a natural death when those acts are consigned to history?
To be honest I think that's the sort of thinking Mick Jagger has. If an LP that rounded up all the living Stones, with a different producer, with a combination of old blues and new songs that had some depth, could be made and would make money, Mick would be on board. But he calls all the Stones shots nowadays. The others can't be bothered to fight him. There's no one standing up for what the hard core fans want.
It's not negative to be dog tired of the nostalgia act. I heard some nice things on stage during the ABB tour. All I'm hearing now is an act trying desperately to be the Rolling Stones and get through these lucrative oldies shows. The Rolling Stones are a great blues band. Keith doesn't need to impress me with the nimble finger work he could do in 1965. But for god's sake I'd like to hear something with meaning. Has nothing happened in his life in the last ten years worth writing a song about? One More Shot? Are you kidding me?
These are wizened old blues masters. They're acting like a lounge act now. Jesus, don't they have enough money saved up that they don't have to go around trying to suck up one last fat boatload of paydays? They allegedly got into this for the music. At least Brian and Keith did. And Bill certainly didn't expect it to be the Golden Ticket. No wonder there's a hunger for the archival works. When we look back at least we we're in a time when they were looking forward. Solomon Burke put that cape on Jagger's shoulders for a reason. And I don't think it was so he could prance around and deliver 'Get Off of My Cloud' with all the conviction of a cereal jingle.
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stonesrule
24FPS, while I agree with quite a bit of your very interesting and well thought out post, I wonder how many of their concerts you attended in 2012-13 and how you felt about the Stones at the time. Were the gigs worth what you paid to be there?
And doesn't reality tell us that Keith is not what he used to be musically on stage?
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duke richardson
has anybody asked them..?
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duke richardson
has anybody asked them..?
I was going to but I misplaced Mick's cell number.
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duke richardson
has anybody asked them..?
I was going to but I misplaced Mick's cell number.
well he wouldn't give you a straight answer anyway
..you know how he is..
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lem motlow
oh for gods sake....give me the names of ten rock bands who had number one records in the last decade.
I think this is the heart of the disconnect I'm feeling here. Surely "the charts"--any kind of charts--are outmoded ways of deciding whether certain kinds of music are alive and well? Most people have no clue what's on the charts. Thousands of them go to see bands they love but whose music they haven't bought in any conventional ways--people share downloads, etc., the whole paradigm has shifted. In the 60s there were way fewer bands who only got heard if they got a contract with a major recording company. Now there are zillions of bands who share their music via the internet, etc., and sidestep the corporate route altogether. It's a different world, but rock is still very much alive.
As, I was surprised to see, is Bobby Vee. "Rubber Ball" was one of the first singles I bought.
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lem motlow
oh for gods sake....give me the names of ten rock bands who had number one records in the last decade.
I think this is the heart of the disconnect I'm feeling here. Surely "the charts"--any kind of charts--are outmoded ways of deciding whether certain kinds of music are alive and well? Most people have no clue what's on the charts. Thousands of them go to see bands they love but whose music they haven't bought in any conventional ways--people share downloads, etc., the whole paradigm has shifted. In the 60s there were way fewer bands who only got heard if they got a contract with a major recording company. Now there are zillions of bands who share their music via the internet, etc., and sidestep the corporate route altogether. It's a different world, but rock is still very much alive.
As, I was surprised to see, is Bobby Vee. "Rubber Ball" was one of the first singles I bought.
i see your point so lets forget about "the charts" - rock and roll began in about 1955 and died a sudden death about 1995.
from 55 on we had elvis,buddy holly, chuck berry,jerry lee,little richard,the rolling stones ,the yardbirds,the beatles,the who,jimi hendrix,pink floyd,led zeppelin,queen,the j geils band,csn&y,ac/dc,U2,jefferson airplane,grateful dead,mott the hoople,ten years after,aerosmith,iggy and the stooges,cream,david bowie,the velvet underground,black sabbath,deep purple,guns and roses,soungarden,nirvana and about 20 others i'm probably forgetting..
now i know the man is keeping us down with the corporations taking over and the paradigm has shifted and people share downloads of great bands they go see so i'll give you 20 years ,from 1993 to 2013 to name 10 bands i could add to the list above.
the truth is the music business has always been tough and corrupt,managers had to give radio and record people cocaine,money,all kinds of favors but if your band could play you'd be heard.
kids dont sit in their garage and jam on guitars and drums,they want to be deadmau5 or one of the other big djs or rap like lil wayne or jay-z.thats why the biggest record of the summer was a white kid rapping,and he did with NO RECORD CONTRACT.
i'm sure there are people listening to rock and roll out there,and i'm sure there are gatherings of people listening to polka and bluegrass somwhere but our time has passed,time to face it.
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Aquamarine
Not sure what you mean by adding bands to the list--you mean rock bands, rock bands that sell a lot (again, that's not necessarily the issue these days), or what? There's the White Stripes (plus Raconteurs, Dead Weather, etc.), Foo Fighters, Kills, Queens of the Stone Age, Pearl Jam, Nine Inch Nails, zillions of lesser-known bands . . . Maybe we're not defining rock and roll the same way?
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duke richardson
has anybody asked them..?
I was going to but I misplaced Mick's cell number.