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Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: muenke ()
Date: November 2, 2014 22:11

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I only have the blu ray by now - without the CDs. I think it is mainly the Google Download Mix but at least with more overdubs (I think the Miss You overdub wasn't on the Google download version).

Edit: So I just compared the two versions. The Miss You overdub is on the Google Download Version too. So the Audio from the Blu Ray could be an exact copy from the Download Source.

The 4-CD Japanese super deluxe edition is said to have two different mixes : one is the same as the original download, the other one is the soundtrack of the DVD/Blu-ray : [wardrecords.com]

The same goes with LA 1975 : [wardrecords.com]

Wardrecords doesnt ship outside Japan, right? Is there any alternative source to get these? Would love to have the 4-CD-Version from LA75 ....

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: brownsugar86 ()
Date: November 2, 2014 23:41

Heading to my nearest HMV tomorrow to buy the dvd. It better be there, I know what these places are like 'Not had our delivery yet blah blah blah'

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: tomcasagranda ()
Date: November 2, 2014 23:56

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Heading to my nearest HMV tomorrow to buy the dvd. It better be there, I know what these places are like 'Not had our delivery yet blah blah blah'

Well, if it's as good as they're stocking of Jerry Lee's Rock n Roll Time, then you won't have it.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: November 3, 2014 02:44

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Is anyone getting the vinyl set? Am I the only one? It appears the vinyl sets won't be out for a few more weeks. I wonder why.

I ordered it as mentioned...sounds though like it's available now, at least as far as flairville pointed out.

But as he's probably from the UK they send them out quickly. Mine's in transit so it shouldn't be longer than a week I shouldn't think.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: November 3, 2014 14:20

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kowalski
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hockenheim95
I only have the blu ray by now - without the CDs. I think it is mainly the Google Download Mix but at least with more overdubs (I think the Miss You overdub wasn't on the Google download version).

Edit: So I just compared the two versions. The Miss You overdub is on the Google Download Version too. So the Audio from the Blu Ray could be an exact copy from the Download Source.

The 4-CD Japanese super deluxe edition is said to have two different mixes : one is the same as the original download, the other one is the soundtrack of the DVD/Blu-ray : [wardrecords.com]

The same goes with LA 1975 : [wardrecords.com]

Does anybody hear any differences between the two stereo mixes? For me it sounds the same, especially the overdubs are on both releases

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: November 3, 2014 16:46

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hockenheim95
I only have the blu ray by now - without the CDs. I think it is mainly the Google Download Mix but at least with more overdubs (I think the Miss You overdub wasn't on the Google download version).

Edit: So I just compared the two versions. The Miss You overdub is on the Google Download Version too. So the Audio from the Blu Ray could be an exact copy from the Download Source.

The 4-CD Japanese super deluxe edition is said to have two different mixes : one is the same as the original download, the other one is the soundtrack of the DVD/Blu-ray : [wardrecords.com]

The same goes with LA 1975 : [wardrecords.com]

Does anybody hear any differences between the two stereo mixes? For me it sounds the same, especially the overdubs are on both releases

What overdubs on Miss You are you refering to?

Mathijs

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Date: November 3, 2014 16:56

I thought there were overdubs only on LSTNT and TIOMS...

BTW, it doesn't necessarily has to be the same mix as the Archive release.

"Sweet Summer Sun" had a very different mix than the digital Google Music release "Hyde Park Live"

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: kowalski ()
Date: November 3, 2014 17:42

On wardrecords.com they say the first mix is from the 2012 Google download and the second mix from the DVD soundtrack.

Also, interestingly the LP's are said to be made from a high resolution digital master (24bit/88.2kHz). Maybe there will be a hi-res download release later one...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-11-03 17:46 by kowalski.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: November 3, 2014 17:45

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I only have the blu ray by now - without the CDs. I think it is mainly the Google Download Mix but at least with more overdubs (I think the Miss You overdub wasn't on the Google download version).

Edit: So I just compared the two versions. The Miss You overdub is on the Google Download Version too. So the Audio from the Blu Ray could be an exact copy from the Download Source.

The 4-CD Japanese super deluxe edition is said to have two different mixes : one is the same as the original download, the other one is the soundtrack of the DVD/Blu-ray : [wardrecords.com]

The same goes with LA 1975 : [wardrecords.com]

Does anybody hear any differences between the two stereo mixes? For me it sounds the same, especially the overdubs are on both releases

What overdubs on Miss You are you refering to?

Mathijs

Look at the first 2 minutes of miss you. Some vocal parts are clearly overdubbed.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2014-11-03 17:48 by hockenheim95.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: November 3, 2014 18:09

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hockenheim95
I only have the blu ray by now - without the CDs. I think it is mainly the Google Download Mix but at least with more overdubs (I think the Miss You overdub wasn't on the Google download version).

Edit: So I just compared the two versions. The Miss You overdub is on the Google Download Version too. So the Audio from the Blu Ray could be an exact copy from the Download Source.

The 4-CD Japanese super deluxe edition is said to have two different mixes : one is the same as the original download, the other one is the soundtrack of the DVD/Blu-ray : [wardrecords.com]

The same goes with LA 1975 : [wardrecords.com]

Does anybody hear any differences between the two stereo mixes? For me it sounds the same, especially the overdubs are on both releases

What overdubs on Miss You are you refering to?

Mathijs

Look at the first 2 minutes of miss you. Some vocal parts are clearly overdubbed.


Made an A/B comparison between the Google download and the Hampton boot - they seem quite the same to me.

C

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Date: November 3, 2014 18:14

I haven't checked out Miss You yet, but clearly many confuses overdubs with new mixes, where "new" vocal parts that weren't very audible on the bootlegs now are polished and up front in the mix, like Mac's vocals on Shattered.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: November 3, 2014 18:38

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I haven't checked out Miss You yet, but clearly many confuses overdubs with new mixes, where "new" vocal parts that weren't very audible on the bootlegs now are polished and up front in the mix, like Mac's vocals on Shattered.

I know what an overdub is and I am only refering to Micks voice. Some parts are taken from another show.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: November 3, 2014 18:53

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I only have the blu ray by now - without the CDs. I think it is mainly the Google Download Mix but at least with more overdubs (I think the Miss You overdub wasn't on the Google download version).

Edit: So I just compared the two versions. The Miss You overdub is on the Google Download Version too. So the Audio from the Blu Ray could be an exact copy from the Download Source.

The 4-CD Japanese super deluxe edition is said to have two different mixes : one is the same as the original download, the other one is the soundtrack of the DVD/Blu-ray : [wardrecords.com]

The same goes with LA 1975 : [wardrecords.com]

Does anybody hear any differences between the two stereo mixes? For me it sounds the same, especially the overdubs are on both releases

What overdubs on Miss You are you refering to?

Mathijs

Look at the first 2 minutes of miss you. Some vocal parts are clearly overdubbed.


Made an A/B comparison between the Google download and the Hampton boot - they seem quite the same to me.

C

So please check again the second "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh" part. On the Google Download he sings "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh, lord i miss you" twice while on the original recording the "lord I miss you" line isn't there.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Date: November 3, 2014 19:16

Is this the video or the audio? On the audio they could have edited the song shorter. Or didn't Mick sing "lord I miss you" at all on the December 18-version?

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: vudicus ()
Date: November 3, 2014 19:16

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I only have the blu ray by now - without the CDs. I think it is mainly the Google Download Mix but at least with more overdubs (I think the Miss You overdub wasn't on the Google download version).

Edit: So I just compared the two versions. The Miss You overdub is on the Google Download Version too. So the Audio from the Blu Ray could be an exact copy from the Download Source.

The 4-CD Japanese super deluxe edition is said to have two different mixes : one is the same as the original download, the other one is the soundtrack of the DVD/Blu-ray : [wardrecords.com]

The same goes with LA 1975 : [wardrecords.com]

Does anybody hear any differences between the two stereo mixes? For me it sounds the same, especially the overdubs are on both releases

What overdubs on Miss You are you refering to?

Mathijs

Look at the first 2 minutes of miss you. Some vocal parts are clearly overdubbed.


Made an A/B comparison between the Google download and the Hampton boot - they seem quite the same to me.

C

So please check again the second "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh" part. On the Google Download he sings "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh, lord i miss you" twice while on the original recording the "lord I miss you" line isn't there.

Just watched this part and it is clearly overdubbed. How odd. Seems that both the 1st and 2nd verse has the ahh ahh parts overdubbed.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: November 3, 2014 19:21

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I only have the blu ray by now - without the CDs. I think it is mainly the Google Download Mix but at least with more overdubs (I think the Miss You overdub wasn't on the Google download version).

Edit: So I just compared the two versions. The Miss You overdub is on the Google Download Version too. So the Audio from the Blu Ray could be an exact copy from the Download Source.

The 4-CD Japanese super deluxe edition is said to have two different mixes : one is the same as the original download, the other one is the soundtrack of the DVD/Blu-ray : [wardrecords.com]

The same goes with LA 1975 : [wardrecords.com]

Does anybody hear any differences between the two stereo mixes? For me it sounds the same, especially the overdubs are on both releases

What overdubs on Miss You are you refering to?

Mathijs

Look at the first 2 minutes of miss you. Some vocal parts are clearly overdubbed.


Made an A/B comparison between the Google download and the Hampton boot - they seem quite the same to me.

C

So please check again the second "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh" part. On the Google Download he sings "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh, lord i miss you" twice while on the original recording the "lord I miss you" line isn't there.

Just watched this part and it is clearly overdubbed. How odd. Seems that both the 1st and 2nd verse has the ahh ahh parts overdubbed.

So here is the First one who believes me smiling smiley. This overdub destroys the whole release for me. The "Baby why you wait so long" part sounds odd too.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: vudicus ()
Date: November 3, 2014 19:23

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I only have the blu ray by now - without the CDs. I think it is mainly the Google Download Mix but at least with more overdubs (I think the Miss You overdub wasn't on the Google download version).

Edit: So I just compared the two versions. The Miss You overdub is on the Google Download Version too. So the Audio from the Blu Ray could be an exact copy from the Download Source.

The 4-CD Japanese super deluxe edition is said to have two different mixes : one is the same as the original download, the other one is the soundtrack of the DVD/Blu-ray : [wardrecords.com]

The same goes with LA 1975 : [wardrecords.com]

Does anybody hear any differences between the two stereo mixes? For me it sounds the same, especially the overdubs are on both releases

What overdubs on Miss You are you refering to?

Mathijs

Look at the first 2 minutes of miss you. Some vocal parts are clearly overdubbed.


Made an A/B comparison between the Google download and the Hampton boot - they seem quite the same to me.

C

So please check again the second "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh" part. On the Google Download he sings "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh, lord i miss you" twice while on the original recording the "lord I miss you" line isn't there.

Just watched this part and it is clearly overdubbed. How odd. Seems that both the 1st and 2nd verse has the ahh ahh parts overdubbed.

So here is the First one who believes me smiling smiley. This overdub destroys the whole release for me. The "Baby why you wait so long" part sounds odd too.

I wanted you to be wrong! grinning smiley
The overdub after the 2nd verse is so blatant as we see a close up of Jagger singing and he pulls away from the mic.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Date: November 3, 2014 19:28

It sounds amateurish and totally unnecessary if true.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: vudicus ()
Date: November 3, 2014 19:33

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It sounds amateurish and totally unnecessary if true.

You'll be shocked when you see it. It looks really bad.

That said, I'm still loving it overall. It's never looked and sounded so good, even with this massive screw up.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: Bastion ()
Date: November 3, 2014 19:35

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It sounds amateurish and totally unnecessary if true.

You'll be shocked when you see it. It looks really bad

Worse than Happy from Ladies & Gentlemen?

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: vudicus ()
Date: November 3, 2014 19:40

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It sounds amateurish and totally unnecessary if true.

You'll be shocked when you see it. It looks really bad

Worse than Happy from Ladies & Gentlemen?

I'd say it's at least on par with that.
Not something that anyone would fail to notice, put it that way.

It actually reminds me of the Genesis Three Sides Live film which has a couple of similar close ups with vocals that do not match at all.
Funnily enough that was also filmed in 1981 and got it's blu-ray release today.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: November 3, 2014 20:24

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hockenheim95

So please check again the second "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh" part. On the Google Download he sings "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh, lord i miss you" twice while on the original recording the "lord I miss you" line isn't there.

You are 100% right!

The guitar part seems the same, but Jagger's voice is definitely not. It seems from that age, so it has to be from another show. Just curious and I checked Leeds, no lord I miss you there.

By the way, nothing in the original that could justify the edit. It just makes me wonder. Could it be that Bob just miked up the files and made a mistake?

C

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Date: November 3, 2014 20:54

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So please check again the second "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh" part. On the Google Download he sings "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh, lord i miss you" twice while on the original recording the "lord I miss you" line isn't there.

You are 100% right!

The guitar part seems the same, but Jagger's voice is definitely not. It seems from that age, so it has to be from another show. Just curious and I checked Leeds, no lord I miss you there.

By the way, nothing in the original that could justify the edit. It just makes me wonder. Could it be that Bob just miked up the files and made a mistake?

Mac again? winking smiley

C

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: mnewman505 ()
Date: November 3, 2014 21:16

Out of all the shows they could give us from VL we get March 12, 1995??? Give me a break!

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: flacnvinyl ()
Date: November 3, 2014 21:37

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hockenheim95

So please check again the second "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh" part. On the Google Download he sings "ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh, lord i miss you" twice while on the original recording the "lord I miss you" line isn't there.

You are 100% right!

The guitar part seems the same, but Jagger's voice is definitely not. It seems from that age, so it has to be from another show. Just curious and I checked Leeds, no lord I miss you there.

By the way, nothing in the original that could justify the edit. It just makes me wonder. Could it be that Bob just miked up the files and made a mistake?

C

Clearmountain seems to have lost his skills. Thin guitars, bass too loud, way too compressed... this could be fantastic but instead I will actually pass.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: DECCA61 ()
Date: November 3, 2014 21:53

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DandelionPowderman
I thought there were overdubs only on LSTNT and TIOMS...

BTW, it doesn't necessarily has to be the same mix as the Archive release.

"Sweet Summer Sun" had a very different mix than the digital Google Music release "Hyde Park Live"

hi yes i too noticed a rare so called non sync moment the last 20 sec of LSTNT in hampton 81 bluray

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: Maindefender ()
Date: November 3, 2014 23:27

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Out of all the shows they could give us from VL we get March 12, 1995??? Give me a break!

What does this mean? lol

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Date: November 4, 2014 00:37

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I thought there were overdubs only on LSTNT and TIOMS...

BTW, it doesn't necessarily has to be the same mix as the Archive release.

"Sweet Summer Sun" had a very different mix than the digital Google Music release "Hyde Park Live"

hi yes i too noticed a rare so called non sync moment the last 20 sec of LSTNT in hampton 81 bluray

+ three lead guitars during the bridge smiling smiley

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: November 4, 2014 01:08

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I thought there were overdubs only on LSTNT and TIOMS...

BTW, it doesn't necessarily has to be the same mix as the Archive release.

"Sweet Summer Sun" had a very different mix than the digital Google Music release "Hyde Park Live"

hi yes i too noticed a rare so called non sync moment the last 20 sec of LSTNT in hampton 81 bluray

+ three lead guitars during the bridge smiling smiley

that's because they didn't want the bridge to collapse.

Re: "From The Vault"- Hampton 1981 on 3 November
Date: November 4, 2014 01:10

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I thought there were overdubs only on LSTNT and TIOMS...

BTW, it doesn't necessarily has to be the same mix as the Archive release.

"Sweet Summer Sun" had a very different mix than the digital Google Music release "Hyde Park Live"

hi yes i too noticed a rare so called non sync moment the last 20 sec of LSTNT in hampton 81 bluray

+ three lead guitars during the bridge smiling smiley

that's because they didn't want the bridge to collapse.

Brick and mortar vs a weaved bridge...

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