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nobodyimportant
I've already explained my position and I'm not going to defend myself again, not that there is anything to defend.
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Sixsixseveneight
If you can use T1 and T2 tickets to enter GA, I don't see the problem.
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sjs12
Oh seriously though. People should be fundamentally against the whole concept of tiers. It as about as un-rock.n roll as you can get. If you realise that they are doing away with the idea of corporate hospitality and VIP I font understand why you are not rejoicing. Or is it that money is so important that it trumps rock n roll? In which case, perhaps you need to rethink what is most important in life. Seriously, the whole concept of tiers is very wrong when it comes to rock n roll. If you want to get to the front you can queue with us riff raff, instead of relying on your wealth.
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Sixsixseveneight
If you can use T1 and T2 tickets to enter GA, I don't see the problem.
You should apply for a position at AEG. You would fit in perfectly there.
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nobodyimportant
I've already explained my position and I'm not going to defend myself again, not that there is anything to defend.
But your suggestion was much better:
it fitted to the original description / situation and everybody could be satisfied
Why do you now favour marquee`s suggestion ( which is not what fits to the point of sale situation AND is not as good for tier 2 ticketholders)
Some GA 3 tickets were sold with the knowledge that they would have access to front of stage.
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nobodyimportant
I've already explained my position and I'm not going to defend myself again, not that there is anything to defend.
But your suggestion was much better:
it fitted to the original description / situation and everybody could be satisfied
Why do you now favour marquee`s suggestion ( which is not what fits to the point of sale situation AND is not as good for tier 2 ticketholders)
Don´t understand....it´s getting even more of a mess....
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marquee
My son has sent the following to Rob Hallet including a better drawing
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marquee
My son has sent the following to Rob Hallet including a better drawing:
Dear Mr. Hallett,
I guess in the past days you have recieved several mails from many Stones fans complaining about the layout of the Hyde Park for the Rolling Stones concert. This one is not supposed to be a complaining one but a helping one.
On Thursday, I have ordered two tickets for the Tier-2 area, expecting to be close to the stage, somewhere at centre house. This is, what
Tier-2 ticket holders could expect after reading the "closer to the stage than General Admission" description on the BST-website.
Unfortunately, the layout as it was published on Friday did not represent this statement. The new layout caused big concerns with many fans of the band especially in the well known iorr.org fan forum. Many of them have not only purchased a ticket but also booked flights and made hotel reservations.
Personally, I support your decision of giving Tier-3 (GA) ticket holders the possibility to come all the way up front, but I cannot accept to be pushed aside like it has been done with the Tier 1 & 2 ticket holders.
Many of those have chosen these areas because they wanted to be as close to the band as anyhow possible, not to have access to a comfortable restroom. If this layout would have been published prior to the sale, many Stones fans would have purchased the normal GA tickets. They wanted to have a reserved place in front of the stage without having to be at Hyde Park at noon to run for the front row. Therefore a downgrade is not an option.
For most of them, a simple refund is not an option, either. They want, what they have ordered. In order to satisfy both, the Tier 1/2 and the Tier 3 ticket holders, we have created a layout which would allow access to the front row for Tier 3 but also set up the Tiers 1 & 2 as it could have been expected.
We have come up with a design that devides the main area between the sound/light towers and the stage into a Front of Stage area and a Tier
1/2 area. Please see the attatched image for more details.
This suggestion has been posted at iorr.org and many people, mainly
Tier-2 ticket holders, have expressed their appreciation for this design because it would satisfy everybody, no matter what kind of ticket they have purchased. Please see page 22 of the pinned "Seating Chart"-thread for all responses.
If the aim of the layout is supposed to bring the "real fans" up front, our suggestion would be a good way to do this, simply because there will be real fans in all sections.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Everybody else with another suggestion should send it to Rob Hallet, too.
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My son has sent the following to Rob Hallet including a better drawing:
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I had an AEG microwave once. It was shite.
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nobodyimportant
I've already explained my position and I'm not going to defend myself again, not that there is anything to defend.
But your suggestion was much better:
it fitted to the original description / situation and everybody could be satisfied
Why do you now favour marquee`s suggestion ( which is not what fits to the point of sale situation AND is not as good for tier 2 ticketholders)
Don´t understand....it´s getting even more of a mess....
I don't think I was the first person here to suggest it, to be honest.
But Marquee's design is simpler to implement. It does away with the need for wristbands for T3, they can be left to their own devices.
As for T2, it would be good enough for me - as I said earlier, I really don't mind where anybody else is as long as everybody in T2 gets a view of the stage that isn't compromised by being at a bad angle.
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ThroughTheLonelyNights
The wristband thing for early, running fans was common in the early days of a seperate Front of Stage section for gereral admisson - before they "invented"special FOS tickets.
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bv
Are the correct numbers of tickets sold for the Hyde Park show published somewhere? I see 55,000 and 65,000 total so I just wonder. And how many of these are T1, T2 and T3 GA?
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mattleeuk
"Unwind Backstage Bar"
The bar that was never backstage and now doesn't even exist... The whole thing is unwinding!
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nobodyimportant
I've already explained my position and I'm not going to defend myself again, not that there is anything to defend.
But your suggestion was much better:
it fitted to the original description / situation and everybody could be satisfied
Why do you now favour marquee`s suggestion ( which is not what fits to the point of sale situation AND is not as good for tier 2 ticketholders)
Don´t understand....it´s getting even more of a mess....
I don't think I was the first person here to suggest it, to be honest.
But Marquee's design is simpler to implement. It does away with the need for wristbands for T3, they can be left to their own devices.
As for T2, it would be good enough for me - as I said earlier, I really don't mind where anybody else is as long as everybody in T2 gets a view of the stage that isn't compromised by being at a bad angle.
Okay, but I still think this would be the better solution:
tier 1 (diamond): FOS
tier 2 (golden) : closer - with FOS on the sides
tier 3(the rest): early access with wristbands for tier 1/2 (FOS)
+ extra possibility FOS on the sides
The wristband thing for early, running fans was common in the early days of a seperate Front of Stage section for gereral admisson - before they "invented"special FOS tickets.
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Okay, but I still think this would be the better solution:
tier 1 (diamond): FOS
tier 2 (golden) : closer - with FOS on the sides
tier 3(the rest): early access with wristbands for tier 1/2 (FOS)
+ extra possibility FOS on the sides
The wristband thing for early, running fans was common in the early days of a seperate Front of Stage section for gereral admisson - before they "invented"special FOS tickets.
I too prefer the circle map with number of Tier 3 let in. Because in the description TIer 2 was promised to be closer the stage than Tier 3.
My original plan was to get on the right side of the circle so I can be on Keef's side of the stage and now it seems impossible and that is the biggest issue to me.
About the Facebook/twitter announcment for Tier 3 to get FOS.
That can't be ignored at this point BUT buyers should be able to trust on the information provided on the site they are buying the tickets.
And they told this Tier 3 FOS thing after the presale..