Sister Morphine, Sway and Dead Flowers are the "weakest" ones, imo.

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Sister Morphine

They should have put that on Let It Bleed.

Yep.

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Not keen on Dead Flowers, that's the weakest point in the album for me.

A wrong opinion, my friend!

You said "Sway" is a "bridge" between "Sugar" and "Horses" - I think "Dead Flowers" is a beautiful break between two thick-aired masterpieces in the flip side. So light and relaxing, like having a quick beer and chatting and laughing with your buddies in a pub during a busy business day.

- Doxa

Please note I added this to my post on Dead Flowers.

"It acts as a nice mood change inbetween Sister Morphone and Moonlight Mile. Fine in context of the album, not something I'd choose to listen to on it's own."

Okay, duly noted your royal highness...so do I need to go back and change my post to reflect your changed post?

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Sister Morphine

They should have put that on Let It Bleed.

Yeah, "Sister Morphine" is an oddity in that album. It is a flashback to their previous albums. It still has that peculiar late-60's feel in it; the rest is so current, stylistically perfect and professional 70's.

- Doxa

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Please note I added this to my post on Dead Flowers.

"It acts as a nice mood change inbetween Sister Morphone and Moonlight Mile. Fine in context of the album, not something I'd choose to listen to on it's own."

Man, we are listening the same album...

- Doxa

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Okay, duly noted your royal highness...so do I need to go back and change my post to reflect your changed post?

nah.

Lucky that they were done with Decca and their 60's thing of a separate single and album by this time because Sticky Fingers would be severely harmed were Brown Sugar and/or Wild Horses not on it.



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Not keen on Dead Flowers, that's the weakest point in the album for me.

Why not, HM? I love Dead FLowers, it's such a fun song, a great to sing-a-long. It was a brillant move to place it after I Got The Blues and Sister Morphine, two very somber songs. It lightens the mood...and then you get the gorgeous Moonlight Mile to take you home.

The lyrics are awesome and ring true.

You Gotta Move is perhaps the most authentic-sounding blues The Stones ever did

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Please note I added this to my post on Dead Flowers.

"It acts as a nice mood change inbetween Sister Morphone and Moonlight Mile. Fine in context of the album, not something I'd choose to listen to on it's own."

Man, we are listening the same album...

- Doxa

Well, it should be noted that Dead Flowers is one of the most covered tracks of the stones (Townes Van Zant, Steve Earle among others), and has been (rightly) credited with being a big influence on the Alt Country movement (by Mojo Nixon recently on his XM show). Yeah, I know someone will say they got that from Gram, but this along with Wild Horses are seminal cornerstones of alt country. I just wish they had given DF and rocked up Honky Tonk Women treatment! Could have been a masterpiece ...

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Moonlight Mile...

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Well... covered tracks of the stones

The 5th Dimension

I love this beautiful song. I love Sticky Fingers too.
I love the cover too.

Mick Taylor is such a gentle guitarist. We forget because we love him blasting through Ampegs in concert bootlegs. Through the information on IORR I'm realizing his influence is great during the classic Stones days and I'm not speaking about solos only.

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Mick Taylor is such a gentle guitarist. We forget because we love him blasting through Ampegs in concert bootlegs. Through the information on IORR I'm realizing his influence is great during the classic Stones days and I'm not speaking about solos only.

He is at his best on stuff like Moonlight Mile, adding magic to the song, imo.

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Mick Taylor is such a gentle guitarist. We forget because we love him blasting through Ampegs in concert bootlegs. Through the information on IORR I'm realizing his influence is great during the classic Stones days and I'm not speaking about solos only.

He is at his best on stuff like Moonlight Mile, adding magic to the song, imo.

Not "adding" but constituting or is being involved in the very process of creating greatly the magic of it. It amazes me greatly how difficult is for certain people to give Taylor a proper credit of his contributions. Like he essentially is nothing but a great lead guitarist - and terrible rhythmn player, of course - who is only icing the cake (and sometimes, especially live 1972/73, ruining it), and actually an outsider who never really belong to the DNA of the Rolling Stones 1969-74, by being one essential contributor to the music that derives from those times.

Of course, I'm not talking about you, Dandie...

- Doxa

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Mick Taylor is such a gentle guitarist. We forget because we love him blasting through Ampegs in concert bootlegs. Through the information on IORR I'm realizing his influence is great during the classic Stones days and I'm not speaking about solos only.

He is at his best on stuff like Moonlight Mile, adding magic to the song, imo.

Not "adding" but constituting or is being involved in the very process of creating greatly the magic of it. It amazes me greatly how difficult is for certain people to give Taylor a proper credit of his contributions. Like he essentially is nothing but a great lead guitarist - and terrible rhythmn player, of course - who is only icing the cake (and sometimes, especially live 1972/73, ruining it), and actually an outsider who never really belong to the DNA of the Rolling Stones 1969-74, by being one essential contributor to the music that derives from those times.

Of course, I'm not talking about you, Dandie...

- Doxa

He is adding magic to this song, no?

I bet he got ideas of how, after getting that one-to-one performance of the song by Jagger in that railway compartment

Guilty.

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Guilty.

Actually you are not. The stuff you've written in this very thread shows it... But I know your stance of 'real Rolling Stones', and Taylor never belongs to that concept, but you don't hesitate to give credit for Taylor of his significance to that bastard version of Rolling Stones 1969-74...

- Doxa

Ok, I am guilty of other charges.

We are both guilty of Taylor having to be exceptionally amazing and hopefully very subtle to garner even a smidgen of kudos though. The most interesting thing about all this is that when ever there is some Taylor discussion going down you know dandie and I are going to be in there.

Hmmm.

The lovers of subtility vs. the lovers of show offs...

We don't always practise as we preach, though - as we're far from subtle in our opinions

Very true, gentlemen, very true!

The only problem I have with you guys is that you sometimes have wrong opinions based on odd taste... ><

But trying to explicate own taste, and the reasons for one's opinions, brings always amazing stuff about music, of how we hear and see things.

- Doxa



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Atleast Taylor's widdle widdle is musical compared to the fiddle fiddle of Wood.

Or to the riddle riddle of Brian's playing

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Or to the riddle riddle of Brian's playing

Riddle riddle is very fitting.

Phil, can you e-mail me? I have a work-related question.

Sent.

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