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Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: August 3, 2012 01:47

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Stoneage
All in all I think the Olympics is a good advocate for sports in general. It's a perfect opportunity to watch a broad variety of sports and athlethes from all around the world. Here the Olympics is broadcasted pretty much around the clock on two different channels and two more on the internet. So if you think one event is boring you can just switch over to another.
EGGZACHARY!!

The Olympics are perfect for the modern media... versus when we were kids and had one channel, and no internet... these days it is wall to wall... and tons of fun!!! GO WORLD!!!

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: sweetcharmedlife ()
Date: August 3, 2012 02:23

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FrankM
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kleermaker
Before my mind's eye I see millions and millions of heavily overweighted Americans lying on their couches, eating chips, pop corn and ice, watching the Olympic Games on TV. When some American sporter wins a golden medal they all shout out loud: "Hey man, WE are the best in sports! WE are the best anyway!"

Holy crap man you are just a bonafide hate America bigot aren't you? Not that we care what some goofball like you thinks but just wanted to point it out.
Yes,kleermaker and mathjis are two biggest anti-american haters on this board and again BV does NOTHING about it. What a shocker.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-03 02:28 by sweetcharmedlife.

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: August 3, 2012 02:42

Country-bashing makes me sick.
There are a..holes in every country, and some of them post here.

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: August 3, 2012 02:44

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sweetcharmedlife
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FrankM
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kleermaker
Before my mind's eye I see millions and millions of heavily overweighted Americans lying on their couches, eating chips, pop corn and ice, watching the Olympic Games on TV. When some American sporter wins a golden medal they all shout out loud: "Hey man, WE are the best in sports! WE are the best anyway!"

Holy crap man you are just a bonafide hate America bigot aren't you? Not that we care what some goofball like you thinks but just wanted to point it out.
Yes,kleermaker and mathjis are two biggest anti-american haters on this board and again BV does NOTHING about it. What a shocker.

Think about the meaning of those words, SCL.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-03 02:45 by kleermaker.

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: August 3, 2012 03:04

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jpasc95
Things are changin' little by little as far as results are concerned.
Especially Germany and Great Britain who have waken up.


This is the proper way of ranking, dear Max.

O and btw, when some Chinese sporter wins spectacularly, it's suspect and the D-word is immediately mentioned by the Americans here . But how many American athletes have used doping? Even the great Carl Lewis did and many others. But no word about that from our American friends. That's not very consistent, isn't it?

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: August 3, 2012 03:06

Whats the fuss KM, the list that Max'sKansasCity posted is correct as he posted the count of medals list

And this is the list of medals your are talking about..........



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Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: August 3, 2012 03:41

As a Dutchman I apologize for the immature behavior on this list by some of my fellow countryman. Pathetic and childish.

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: mr_dja ()
Date: August 3, 2012 03:44

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kleermaker
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jpasc95
Things are changin' little by little as far as results are concerned.
Especially Germany and Great Britain who have waken up.


This is the proper way of ranking, dear Max.

O and btw, when some Chinese sporter wins spectacularly, it's suspect and the D-word is immediately mentioned by the Americans here . But how many American athletes have used doping? Even the great Carl Lewis did and many others. But no word about that from our American friends. That's not very consistent, isn't it?

I'm an American and I haven't said a thing about doping until now. I will say that I personally hope that anyone who breaks established and agreed upon rules to gain a competitive advantage is caught and punished. I don't care where they're from.

I'm hoping that makes you feel better.

Peace,
Mr DJA

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: August 3, 2012 03:51

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Koen
As a Dutchman I apologize for the immature behavior on this list by some of my fellow countryman. Pathetic and childish.

thumbs upthumbs upthumbs up

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Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: August 3, 2012 04:26

As a human from Planet Earth, I am very pleased that we can do some things right,
like come together every 2-4 years and play some game together. It makes us better
as humans... to strive to improve, do better, go faster, break records... have fun.

Fcuk those piece of sht, 1% mthefn, bankster, crimminal leaders who have gotten
filthy rich robbing the other 99% of us... fk them all to hell... but that is for
another thread... this thread is about the 2012 Olympic games... and the athletes.

wow !!! LQQK!!! A FLYING SQUIRELL!!! GO GABBY!!!!!
(oops there I go... its that bogus tape delayed commentary rubbing off winking smiley
and to truly imitate them, lets do 4 (MORE) minutes of fkg commercials!!!















Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: August 3, 2012 04:42

Especially HUGE PROPS to the repeat Olympians and the people who support them!!!
Cheers to the athletes who come back to attempt to do it again, with no guarantees,
it hard, but they come back to make another run at it, at history. WOW!!! Quite amazing.

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: August 3, 2012 05:33

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sweetcharmedlife
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FrankM
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kleermaker
Before my mind's eye I see millions and millions of heavily overweighted Americans lying on their couches, eating chips, pop corn and ice, watching the Olympic Games on TV. When some American sporter wins a golden medal they all shout out loud: "Hey man, WE are the best in sports! WE are the best anyway!"

Holy crap man you are just a bonafide hate America bigot aren't you? Not that we care what some goofball like you thinks but just wanted to point it out.
Yes,kleermaker and mathjis are two biggest anti-american haters on this board and again BV does NOTHING about it. What a shocker.

Obviously you have it wrong. We don't shout "We are the best", we shout "USA, USA, USA!"

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: jpasc95 ()
Date: August 3, 2012 07:19

ok guys please cool down...
I respect kleemaker's opinion, even if it's not mine, when he seems to regret all the money, advertising and nationalism that hang around the Olympics.
As I've already said, I'm not into nationalism but rather into patriotism which is quite different and less dangerous if you have a look into history.
I like it when France wins medals but I respect it when foreigners win too.

About USA, they've had the habit to win for a long time and have the ambition to remain the best with USSR before and now with China. It's no problem to me. It's not worse to be ambitious in sports than in business or politics.
The only sad thing to me about sports is doping. It's a very bad example for youth.
It is also a bit sad (I read it on this board) that American people don't seem to pay attention to other countries that win.
But whose fault is it really ? to US channels that only show pictures of the American winners or is it the temper of US people ?

anyway, here is the new results board taken on BBC site. It's getting tight now between France, Germnay and Great Britain.

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Date: August 3, 2012 08:02

i feel so bad for russian female gymnast aliya mustafina and i'm an american. she got a bronze but should have had the gold. she was the 2010 world champion and then tore her ACL (in the left knee i think) at the start of the 2011 season. she sat out all of 2011 after surgery for her ACL to heal. she trained just 8 months after that ACL tear and then was still able to get a bronze. she didn't do her hard vault that she did in 2010 (the announcers said probably due to conditioning and leg strength not being up to par). she fell off the balance beam and again dumbed down part of her floor exercise making it easier ( and again the announcers said probably due to conditioning and leg strength not being up to par). she also appeared slightly out of shape looking close to 10 pounds heavier than she did in 2010. to tear an ACL last year, fall off the beam, make you floor and vault routine easier for whatever reason and still get a bronze i have no doubt this girl would be holding a gold medal if she had never torn her ACL.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-03 08:02 by keefriffhard4life.

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: bv ()
Date: August 3, 2012 10:55

Please show some respect here. It's only a game you know. No reason to start WW III. As for the results I would advice to check out the official Olympics web site:

[www.london2012.com]

As being a proud Norwegian, but not over-proud, I know that some used to sort the medals tables differently when we were - and are - at timers - in the lead with the winter olympics. See this link for the "best games ever" in Lillehammer Norway 1994. I was there...

[en.wikipedia.org]

Russia won the medals listing officially, Norway had the most medals of them all, and all my Swedish friends tell me they got like 25 gold medals because they won the Ice Hockey Game(one medal per player). Foppa!!! salo!!! What a goal and what a game!

If the results table seems defressing or irritating then there is always a way to read it so that it feels better. We are only 5 million people in Norway vs. 1300 million people in China, so with one silver and one bronze in the London Olympics this year Norway have 2/5 = 0.4 medals per million people vs China has got 34/1300 = 0.03 medals per million people. So we are 10 times better than the Chinese.

To be honest I am impressed by The Netherlands with all the medals they have got, a lot vs the population. And may be Jamaica will do some impressive numbers too...

Rather than using this thread to hate and fighting I would advice everyone to look at the positive sides. There are so many great results and stories to tell. So many smiles. And tears of course. But the Olymics are just games, for fun, and sure for fame and fortune, but not for politics, not for starting WW III as I said. Let us show the world that at least here we are able to be nice to each others. Thanks!

Bjornulf

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: August 3, 2012 11:43

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bv
Please show some respect here. It's only a game you know. No reason to start WW III. As for the results I would advice to check out the official Olympics web site:

[www.london2012.com]

As being a proud Norwegian, but not over-proud, I know that some used to sort the medals tables differently when we were - and are - at timers - in the lead with the winter olympics. See this link for the "best games ever" in Lillehammer Norway 1994. I was there...

[en.wikipedia.org]

Russia won the medals listing officially, Norway had the most medals of them all, and all my Swedish friends tell me they got like 25 gold medals because they won the Ice Hockey Game(one medal per player). Foppa!!! salo!!! What a goal and what a game!

If the results table seems defressing or irritating then there is always a way to read it so that it feels better. We are only 5 million people in Norway vs. 1300 million people in China, so with one silver and one bronze in the London Olympics this year Norway have 2/5 = 0.4 medals per million people vs China has got 34/1300 = 0.03 medals per million people. So we are 10 times better than the Chinese.

To be honest I am impressed by The Netherlands with all the medals they have got, a lot vs the population. And may be Jamaica will do some impressive numbers too...

Rather than using this thread to hate and fighting I would advice everyone to look at the positive sides. There are so many great results and stories to tell. So many smiles. And tears of course. But the Olymics are just games, for fun, and sure for fame and fortune, but not for politics, not for starting WW III as I said. Let us show the world that at least here we are able to be nice to each others. Thanks!

thumbs up Nice one BV.

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: August 3, 2012 13:11

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NICOS
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Koen
As a Dutchman I apologize for the immature behavior on this list by some of my fellow countryman. Pathetic and childish.

thumbs upthumbs upthumbs up

It's more than absurd (not to say plain stupid) to apologize for someone else. It's even more absurd and stupid to apologize for someone with whom you ONLY and NOT WILLINGLY but accidentally have your nationality in common. I even don't know a certain Koen and NICOS at all! And they think they are in the position to apologize for me! What a hubris and self-overestimation. Simply ridiculous.

Another thing: the way the Dutch behave in their London Heineken House (yes indeed Holland HEINEKEN house) is appalling and abject, but I will never apologize for someone else, let alone for some people that are accidentally my 'fellow' countrymen. They are firstly not my fellows, secondly neither they nor me myself have chosen each other as 'fellow countrymen' and thirdly we have absolutely nothing in common.

I would like the games if 1) nationalism wasn't involved, 2) politicians didn't take advantage of it, 3) commercialism wasn't the decisive factor and 4) all the athletes were amateurs.

I like the Tour the France because the teams are international and hardly or no politics nor nationalism are involved. Many fans have a not-fellow countryman or men as their favourite(s). We choose them because we know a little about them, their personality, their life, their behaviour, their lies etc. But nevertheless: top sport is not healthy and in fact nonsense. But some nonsense can be fun sometimes. The Olympics are no fun to me and I have explained why.

Even a little teasing causes wild reactions here. Figure out why. But, dear Americans, count your blessings, because being teased by me seems to unite you, liberals and conservatives alike. Isn't that great? You people should be thankful to me for that. Though I think the thought that I could bash an abstractum like a 'country' is almost unimaginable. Get real. Besides I think there are many nice and kind Americans. The same here in Holland and everywhere else. People are in fact all the same. Some different personalities and living in different circumstances, but that has nothing to do with your nationality. No one has ever been able to explain with reasonable arguments why he is proud of something abstract as his nationality.

But I've understood that any criticism here is forbidden and only blind enthusiasm is allowed. So be it. I'm off on this topic. Be glad, you 'offended' people. Finally: I don't care about any Dutch medal. It's all wasted money and even rather boring. But those who let themselves manipulate, well go ahead and ignore reality. During the Roman Empire they had panem et circenses (you can google it, just like the meaning of the word irony: you will learn something new and interesting) to keep the masses humble and calm. Now we have the games (circenses), but instead of bread (panem) debt has been added. And an economical crisis too. Well, enjoy that, masses, and accept all.

Finally you angry Americans have to thank me for uniting you all against common enemy kleermaker, the feared 'American hater'.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-08-03 13:36 by kleermaker.

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Date: August 3, 2012 13:22

grinning smiley I don't think they were THAT offended, kleermaker.

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: August 3, 2012 13:32

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Koen
As a Dutchman I apologize for the immature behavior on this list by some of my fellow countryman. Pathetic and childish.

Apologies accepted.

Mathijs

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: August 3, 2012 13:48

Quote: Kleermaker
Even a little teasing causes wild reactions here.

Teasing? why didn't you say that in the first place.....

Use a smiley next time if you want to tease .......thanks

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Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: August 3, 2012 14:11

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kleermaker
I even don't know a certain Koen and NICOS at all!

I'm glad I don't know you either smoking smiley

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: kleermaker ()
Date: August 3, 2012 14:25

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Koen
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kleermaker
I even don't know a certain Koen and NICOS at all!

I'm glad I don't know you either smoking smiley

You and NICOS owe me an apology. You don't have to know me for that.
And remember: only apologize for yourself from now on, never for someone else.
Be glad you've learned something from me. For free.

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: shortfatfanny ()
Date: August 3, 2012 14:59

abiggerbash

having the Aurora,the latest Ted Nugent and in parts this thread in mind I wonder whether it will be possible sooner or later to discuss former tours or maybe some shows in the future,if happen at all, of the Stones in the USA.

Whenever some critcal remarks occur towards the USA a regular freak-out by some is the usual reflex leading into personal bashings and the cry for Bjornulf to stop it and to close the thread.
Often the thread itself isnĀ“t the problem but those with overidentification with a country,playing the national card.

This is childish and ridiculous even when you keep in mind that some of the IORR members obviuosly living in the same country got various opinions on certain topics and bash each other...

A minimum of respect towards each other contributing usually interesting stuff,sharing knowledge...whatever is what I want to read.

And yes...I know this is the olympic thread....as the two others have been closed recently I allow myself to make use of this one.

keep on bashing...errr....swimming,cycling,running...winking smiley


Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: August 3, 2012 15:10

Huge props to Michael Phelps for being the first swimmer to win earn gold in the same event in 3 Olympic games in a row by winning earning gold in the men's 200-meter individual medley in 1:54:27. It was proven how hard that feat is by it being attempted and failed 3 times before in these games.... and finally he did it last night... WOW!!! I know people have talked plenty about Michael Phelps, but he deserves it... this being his 4th Olympics and him earning more Medals than any other human in history... just amazing!!! As good as he is.. I do NOT consider Phelps to be the greatest Olympian/athlete ever... IMUHO I think that honor was earned by Mr Jim Thorpe, and still stands to this day. [en.wikipedia.org]

And it the city of London is doing an awesome job with these Olympics...
no news is good news regarding this.. no stories about... anything except the games.

GOOD TIMES!!

ps
And finally a BIG SHOUT OUT to the USA Golden girls!!
They have never lost an Olympic match yet WOW!!! Talented AND HOT!!!




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Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Date: August 3, 2012 15:15

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Max'sKansasCity
Huge props to Michael Phelps for being the first swimmer to win gold in the same event in 3 Olympic games in a row by winning gold in the men's 200-meter individual medley in 1:54:27. It was proven how hard that feat is by it being attempted and failed 3 times before in these games.... and finally he did it last night... WOW!!! I know people have talked plenty about Michale Phelps, but he deserves it... this being his 4th Olympics and him earning more Medals than any other human in history... just amazing!!! As good as he is.. I do NOT consider Phelps to be the greatest Olympian/athlete ever... IMUHO I think that honor was earned by Mr Jim Thorpe. [en.wikipedia.org]

And it the city of London is doing an awesome job with these OLympics...
no news is good news regarding this.. no stories about... anything except the games.

GOOD TIMES!!

thumbs up

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: August 3, 2012 15:17

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bv
Let us show the world that at least here we are able to be nice to each others.

Great idea thumbs up

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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: August 3, 2012 15:23

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Max'sKansasCity
Huge props to Michael Phelps

Great achievement indeed

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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: August 3, 2012 15:26

And for those who have forgotten, this thread is about the
2012 London Summer Olympics


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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: August 3, 2012 15:27




Re: OT - 2012 London Summer Olympics
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: August 3, 2012 15:28

North Korea's Key to Olympic Medals:
Refrigerators For Winners, Labor Camps for Losers

[news.yahoo.com]

North Korea's Olympic athletes are thrilling their countrymen with surprising success in winning medals and they are attributing their success to their Dear Leader Kim Jong Un.

But others, including former North Korean athletes who have defected, suggest the success of the country's small contingent of athletes at the games may be the result of a policy of training them from a very young age at specialized schools, backed up by rewards like cars and refrigerators for winners and the threat of labor camps for losers.

North Korea ranks 14th in the overall medal count, but fifth in terms of the number of gold medals with four.

The country won two golds in men's weightlifting, one in women's weightlifting and one in women's judo. It also captured a bronze medal in women's weightlifting.

The communist nation has 56 athletes competing in 11 sports. Its hopes for additional medals lie in boxing, wrestling, diving, table tennis, judo, and archery. The best Olympic result in the past was four gold medals and five bronzes in Barcelona 1992.

Joyful residents in North Korea gather to watch the games on huge outdoor screens and public places with television connection.

"After witnessing the gold medal at the Olympics, my heart is unutterably happy and my pride (in our nation) is growing," an unidentified woman said on state television news.

That pride is exactly what the country's new 28 year-old leader Kim Jong Un is looking for. He has taken control of the impoverished nation of 25 million after his father Kim Jong Il passed away last December. Decades of famine have left many North Koreans bitter and analysts say this Olympic Games' fever is a perfect opportunity to generate loyalty and devotion among his subjects.

Gold medalist Kim Un-Guk, who set an Olympic record in 62-kilogram weightlifting, dutifully attributed his triumph to their leader Kim Jong Un.

"I won first place because the shining Supreme Commander Kim Jong Un gave me power and courage," he told reporters in London.

An Kum-Ae, who won her gold in the women's judo 52-kilogram division, said, "I cannot be any happier than right now for I can give my gold medal to our great leader, Kim Jong Un."

Woo-Young Lee, a professor at University of North Korean Studies in Seoul, says, "Athletes in North Korean society are revered as elites and they are managed, trained, and supported on a national level."

Hand-picked by the Communist Party's Sports Committee, the athletes are trained at very young ages and registered at specialized schools which provide "daily meals and spending money at times," said Gu-Kyeong Bang, a defector living in South Korea.

Secret to North Korea's Olympic Success

Bang was a student athlete in Taewondo in the North. Training involved four hours of "ideological education" per week aimed at cultivating loyalty to the leader.

"They play with a different mind set," said another North Korean defector to the South, Kim Yo-Han. "An absolute loyalty towards the country and the leader is the core foundation of the North Korean athletes' sportsmanship."

Kim's father was a soccer coach and mother was a rhythmic gymnastics coach in the North.

Upon returning home, gold medal athletes like Kim Un-Guk and An Gum-Ae would be rewarded with handsome prize money, an apartment, a car, and additional perks like refrigerators and television sets.

But most of all, they will be rewarded with a huge jump in social status with the title of "hero" or "people's athlete."

But poor performances, especially losing to their archenemy nations like the United States or South Korea, have consequences. Rumors of athletes being sent directly to labor camps upon arriving home are not confirmed, but it is a common procedure to open "review meetings" after the sports events in which participants "assess" their own and each other's games, said Kim Yo-Han.

If during that process the person is determined "disloyal" to their Dear Leader, the athlete is likely to be expelled from the sports organization and at times sent to labor camps.



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