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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
It seems that you're not the only one.
I've read some comments about the same thing .
I understand people's reactions to that,and that's fine, but good grief -- where have these offended been for the last 50 years? Do they see nothing feminine about the way he was in'66 or '69 or '73 or '76? Much of his fame was built on his androgyny during those years, and much of his showmanship, too. I am confused that anyone should suddenly notice it...
Yeah, it's as if some Stones fans have suddenly and magically become Rush Limbaughian. Do they not know how Mick Jagger has been in the past? They're offended? That's just too funny.
Funny? No, what's funny is how a some people overlook things just because it's Mick Jagger or some other celeb. We all know Mick's history, but that doesn't mean I want to see a man, let alone one of my rock heroes, rubbing another man's crotch. Haven't had to see that over the past 30-years of touring. If that's the sort of thing you're into, that's what bands like Frankie Goes To Hollywood are for. And making an association to Rush Limbaugh is a pretty obtuse statement.
Why is Mick Jagger considered a hero to you? I hate to say it but you should've known perhaps. I suppose that means you won't be getting the DVD then.
Good gawd this is like a witch hunt....next thing you'll be saying is that Liberace is gay.
COME ON!
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Watched Ladies & Gentlemen last night. I must say I prefer Ladies & Gents to Live in Texas.
Just something about the "rat a tat tat" sound of the faster/up tempo songs on the 78 tour that after a while gets on my nerves.
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I agree. The songs are candy. Formulated. How many of things songs go from A to D? Boring. Except for maybe Beast Of Burden, the whole tour and album is forgetable. The Stones were incapable of playing songs like Monkey Man or Moonlight Mile at that time. Musically at an all time low next to 1981.
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I noticed that Keith has two capos side to side on the neck of his guitar when he plays Jumping Jack Flash during the Texas show. Has he done that before and since? Looks kinda cool actually if not really necessary.
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WTF became of the RS musically? Must I laugh or cry.. Entertaining and making music should be integrated. This is a bogus charter flight, or can't they really do any better? Sloppy playing, amateurish guitars, cliché posing till the bone. If there are some tickets available I'll send my 4 years old niece to the cinema: Nursery school fodder.
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I was blown away! I've seen the bootleg many times but this was stunning and in your face! just as I have always remembered the Stones. I was hooting and hollering in the theater (if you saw it in Revere, MA that was me . . .)
They were just so good back then, ahhhh youth!!!!
As for the crotch grabbing comments, well, its interesting that the filmakers left that in (but thats another topic). It doesn't bother me at all; the Stones were young, they were having fun. Ummm, ok this is weird to say, but, if your an American kid, that seems perhaps kinda weird, kinda "gay"; but Europeans and English boys are a little different, not trying to offend anyone, not saying its good or bad or weird or whatever, just saying its a cultural thing. My cousins in Greece are a little different like that; difficult to describe but its just a cultural difference.
I don't think it should be looked at with great scrutiny and, by all means, should not take away from that rocking performance.
I rate the film a 9 out of 10
and I'm more or less a Taylor guy ><
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Think it's possible that Mick discovered a little homophobia in Ronnie, and decided to use that to really mess with Ronnie's head a bit?
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I love L&G, and the Taylor-made Stones as much as anything, but I love the 78 Stones just as much. I am perplexed how a Stones hardcore can NOT think this is the tops. It's great rock'n roll. The video for Handsome Girls.
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How did this thread deteriorate so quickly? I don't dig the crotch grabbing either, but it doesn't mean I hate Jagger or anything like that. I'm just not into that junk.
As a side note, almost every person I talked to at the theater made a comment on Jagger's junk. "I didn't know they made pants out of plastic bags." "I've seen enough of Jagger's sack to last me a lifetime."
Please try to be tolerant of those of us who are "ultra hetero". Just because we are not 'into' Jagger grabbing Ronnie's crotch (or licking him for that matter) doesn't mean we are attacking Mick.
BTW, again, this is the greatest Rolling Stones concert film of all time. I only wish the guitars were louder in the mix and we got more shots of Charlie!!
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I'm with you. Shattered is an EPIC tribute to NYC.