I'm a bit confused, BV, because you said " Mick will be on tour in the spring"...solo or with the Stones as a part of the extended ABB Tour?

mickschix Wrote:
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> How is it that BV is just hearing this? Gazza,
> watch this go to the top of the charts!

If that tops the charts, Debra, I'll pay your airfare to London for the next Stones shows here, book the two of us into the Savoy for a week and have Bjornulf serve us breakfast every morning. *

>Frankly, I'd love to see that happen! There's so much REAL crap on the Rolling Stone top 50 and Billboard charts these days that it would be fantastic to see Mick beat out some of that garbage

yeah, but i'd rather he did it with something of quality. Not with something thats every bit as cringeworthy.

the only way that song will be a big hit will be if (God forbid) he croaks it the week before it comes out and thousands buy it in one of those bizarre displays of hysteria-induced loyalty


Another thumbs-up for Cherry Oh Baby.I like the 'unfinished' sound of it.


* and no, Debra. You going out and personally ordering 50,000 copies of the single is cheating.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-09-18 18:11 by Gazza.

This is just part of the cycle...


Mick takes a break from the Stones and releases lame solo material.
Keef get bored because he has nothing to do and no friends to play with.
Keef hears Mick's solo crap and says to himself "I can write better stuff for Mick than that" (then Keef writes)
Keef then calls Mick and says "Argh argh arg...I wrote me some new riffs mate, come have a listen...har har har"
Mick and Keef eventually get together and the riffs evolve into songs.
While writing songs, Mick and Keef start talking about tour concepts.
etc etc etc

NumberOneStonesFan Wrote:
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> This is just part of the cycle...
>
>
> Mick takes a break from the Stones and releases
> lame solo material.
> Keef get bored because he has nothing to do and no
> friends to play with.
> Keef hears Mick's solo crap and says to himself "I
> can write better stuff for Mick than that" (then
> Keef writes)
> Keef then calls Mick and says "Argh argh arg...I
> wrote me some new riffs mate, come have a
> listen...har har har"
> Mick and Keef eventually get together and the
> riffs evolve into songs.
> While writing songs, Mick and Keef start talking
> about tour concepts.
> etc etc etc



All reasonably accurate apart from the bit I just highlighted

So somebody actually likes Charmed Life?
It's the worst song I have ever heard from any Stones members.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-09-18 21:15 by Erik_Snow.

Gazza Wrote:
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> NumberOneStonesFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is just part of the cycle...
> >
> >
> > Mick takes a break from the Stones and releases
> > lame solo material.
> > Keef get bored because he has nothing to do and
> no
> > friends to play with.
> > Keef hears Mick's solo crap and says to himself
> "I
> > can write better stuff for Mick than that"
> (then
> > Keef writes)
> > Keef then calls Mick and says "Argh argh
> arg...I
> > wrote me some new riffs mate, come have a
> > listen...har har har"
> > Mick and Keef eventually get together and the
> > riffs evolve into songs.
> > While writing songs, Mick and Keef start
> talking
> > about tour concepts.
> > etc etc etc
>
>
>
> All reasonably accurate apart from the bit I just
> highlighted


beat me to it......but honestly what has Keith written in the last 25 years or so??

Rip This Wrote:

>
> beat me to it......but honestly what has Keith
> written in the last 25 years or so??

Doesn't Keef write guitar parts/riffs still?

Rip This Wrote:
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>
> beat me to it......but honestly what has Keith
> written in the last 25 years or so??

one would like to think his autobiography.
but i expect thats been ghost-written by some cheap, sycophantic hack.

Rip This Wrote:

>
> beat me to it......but honestly what has Keith
> written in the last 25 years or so??


Love is strong
You got me rocking
The worst
Thru & thru
Flip the switch
Rough Justice
It want take long
This place is empty
....

Adrian-L Wrote:
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> Rip This Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > beat me to it......but honestly what has Keith
> > written in the last 25 years or so??
>
> one would like to think his autobiography.
> but i expect thats been ghost-written by some
> cheap, sycophantic hack.


But he did write a letter to the Swedish press, no ?

NumberOneStonesFan Wrote:
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> Rip This Wrote:
>
> >
> > beat me to it......but honestly what has Keith
> > written in the last 25 years or so??
>
> Doesn't Keef write guitar parts/riffs still?


..well maybe he still does....perhaps Rough Justice is all him...I dunno.....but then don't you need to go back to Love is Strong maybe for a really really great meaty riff to attribute to him??? That's a long time me thinks in between....

Erik_Snow Wrote:
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> But he did write a letter to the Swedish press, no?

lol, maybe one of his flunkeys
but i doubt it ever happened.

Adrian-L Wrote:
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> Rip This Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > beat me to it......but honestly what has Keith
> > written in the last 25 years or so??
>
> one would like to think his autobiography.
> but i expect thats been ghost-written by some
> cheap, sycophantic hack.


........did you mean Robert Greenfield???

...and I like "Cherry, Oh Baby" too......



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-09-18 20:14 by Lukester.

Personally, I think Keith was responsible for much of VOODOO LOUNGE and BRIDGES TO BABYLON and about 40% of A BIGGER BANG (mainly music, not lyrics). The difference is Keith's solo excursions are limited to covers of songs he loves and not albums of original material. Mind you, there are folks around here that probably believe Pierre de Beauport is writing and playing the riffs for him...

According to the IORR news Mick will be on tour this spring. It's all in the news, as posted Aug. 26, same day as the tour finished. It's the band not just the singer.

PS. I am looking forward to a week at the Savoy. There will be full english breakfast.

Bjornulf

great news, Bv
sure--jaggers new Album will be selling very well--at least in germany i am sure its in the top 10 Album charts--1 week after release date

under the boardwalk---down by the sea

Haven't heard the song yet, but I am wondering if there are plans of releasing a CD single. Has anyone heard anything about one?

keith wrote too tight as well. i know this because the bass player jeff sarli (rip) was a friend of mine.


charmed life is a great dance tune - its a @#$%& terrible stones tune. If you can appreciate dance music (not everybody can or does) you'll enjoy it - if not - put cherry oh baby on!

OLDKR

Charmed Life is throwaway. Speaking of which, why isn't Throwaway on the album. One of SIR Mick's finest solo ditties.

bv Wrote:
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> I just heard the new song Charmed Life by Mick
> Jagger on the radio. Sounds like a great song. The
> new album is due out Oct 1st. It should be
> available on the new by Warner, but I haven't
> found the link yet.
>
> [g-ec2.images-amazon.com]
> L._SS500_.jpg

Bv, we all know you must stay in good terms with the Stones, but to call C.L "a great song" is going a bit too far.
that song imo is bad and it sounds like shit.

"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"

Riffbuk Wrote:
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> The video was removed from Youtube....

I see the garbageman hasn't taken it away...complete rubbish.

A new album...now THAT is exciting news!!!

NumberOneStonesFan Wrote:
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> Rip This Wrote:
>
> >
> > beat me to it......but honestly what has Keith
> > written in the last 25 years or so??
>
> Doesn't Keef write guitar parts/riffs still?


Hardly tantamount to co-writing too much of ABB which seems primarily composed by Mick for the most part - even the music.

The last 25 years is a bit harsh, but after a burst of activity in the late 80s and early 90s up to Voodoo lounge, you're basically looking at

Flip the switch, Lowdown, Too tight and the 3 songs he sings on on BTB
Losing My touch
Maybe 3 or 4 off ABB

Micks been far more productive when you consider hes put out a few solo albums too

No doubt Keith's 'written' other stuff, but if its not being released, theres not much point.

Always struck me as a bit ridiculous that hes forever bashing Mick's solo work in public when he's not exactly productive himself.



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CindyC Wrote:
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> bv Wrote:
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> I have been on tour for two years and then trying
> to find out how real life is...
>
>
> Sorry - I have to correct this as I know English
> is not your first language. You should say "I've
> been FOLLOWING the tour". To say you are "on
> tour" implies that you are in the band.

Are the roadies "FOLLOWING the tour" or
"on tour"????

They are not in the band??

Nikolai Wrote:
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> Speaking of which, why
> isn't Throwaway on the album. One of SIR Mick's
> finest solo ditties.


I agree and he even uses that song on the Promo someone posted on You Tube.

I'm still undecided as to the merits of this song after having seen teh video once, but what I do know is that it has a strong hook to it in the parts where Mick sings something like "I'm living the charmed life". After hearing the song only once, that part is stuck in my head, which may not be good, but it shows that the song is catchy.

The trouble is defining what constitutes writing when we're talking words and music. They do contribute to one another's songs. I agree A BIGGER BANG is more Mick than Keith, but its hardly a Mick solo album with old band members along for the ride. On the other side of the coin, I don't doubt Keith worked hard at crafting "Too Tight," but most if not all of the lyrics sound like Jagger to my ears. I would also argue that BRIGDGES was as much Keith's album as it was Mick's. I'd be interested in knowing more about what happened to Jeff Sarli, if its alright with OldKR. He was a helluvva bassist and I didn't know he passed away. His style seemed similar to Bill Plummer's. I'd call it Joey Spaminato on uppers if you know what I mean. I belong in the camp that hates "Charmed Life," but I wouldn't knock anybody who likes it. I don't hate dance music, by the way. I really like "Rain Fall Down" and thought "Hide Away" was one of the best things on GODDESS IN THE DOORWAY. "Charmed Life" sounded too much like something Mick adlibbed in the studio for ten minutes and decided to call it a track. Be interesting to see what happens with their Virgin contract now that there's rumbling about making another album or at least a few more songs.

>> ABB which seems primarily composed by Mick for the most part <<

not the way i hear it. i hear a large share of genuine collaboration on ABB,
along with some "mainly Mick" and some "mainly Keith" numbers.
people have been second-guessing the Glimmer Twins regarding who wrote what since the get-go
with very little basis for their assumptions.

oh and add Hurricane to the list of what Keith's written and released in the last few years



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-09-18 20:21 by with sssoul.

Cham Lay has already been a success in terms of airplay in the clubs - certain remixes have already topped the dance charts- the release (as is usually the case) is way behind the curve.

OLDKR