Re: Frankfurt reports here please
Date: June 14, 2007 13:35
rknuth Wrote:
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> salar Wrote:
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> > Hi,
> > its 01.40 am now..I just came back to Cologne.
> > Frankfurt was my first gig this
> > summer,,,,well..what to say..I really got very
> > Mixed Emotions tonight, because:
> >
> > 1. The stadium and the crowd...placing the
> stage
> > on the sidetribune was a good idea..cause: The
> > stadium seemed to be full at least...it looked
> > pretty packed, the atmosphere was great...the
> fans
> > were into it, especially during the second half
> > and there were already no bad places cause
> > evrybody had a much closer view to the
> stage...I
> > guess approx 25.000 visitors...
> >
> > 2. I had block A2 row 1 seat 10..so this was
> front
> > line , you could not get closer to the
> stage..but
> > they left about 2 meters space between row 1
> and
> > the iron wall...everytime I wanted to go front,
> I
> > was told to go back by the
> > security...rubbish..after the Stones hit the
> stage
> > on 08.50 pm evrybody was on his or or her
> > feet...as if there were no seats at all..
> > I could hardly see Charly from my place..I
> could
> > not see Bernard,Lisa and Blondy at all, cause
> the
> > stage was so high and I was on Keith side just
> > opposite to the horn section.
> >
> > Now the show....so I had the so called best
> seats
> > in the stadium...and I got the worst sound i
> ever
> > wittnessed at a Stones gig...and I saw more
> than
> > 30 or 40 Stones gigs so far...believe it or
> > not....setlistwise tonights gig was one of my
> > favorites..but what do you do if you are not
> able
> > to recognice the songs..such as, Bitch, Monkey
> > man, even Rambler was a mess soundwise...i
> could
> > hardly hear the guitars..Micks voice could not
> be
> > heard at all..the horns..forget it..it was a
> > horrible mish mash...I dont know the english
> > vocabulary..so I explain it in german:
> > " Leute, der Sound war ein einziger Brei..eine
> > katstrophe, eine Schande, ein Matsch aus
> > dröhnenden Gitarrenchaos..Mick war fast
> überhaupt
> > nicht zu erkennen..die drums shepperten mit
> > Verzögerung....ich hätt echt heulen können"...I
> > really wanted to cry...never thought it could
> get
> > such a shitty lousy sound..
> > The Stones themselfes were in good
> shape....Mick
> > at his best...he talked a lot to the
> audience...he
> > apologized for not playing last year and so on,
> > Charly was cool...he had so much fun during
> band
> > intro..Ronni was very concentrated..he IS
> > sober...at least tonight he was....Keith, well
> > Keith...on some songs he was on..on others he
> > wasn`t..well this is Keith as we all know him,
> > BUT: he was not the keith I saw last
> summer...what
> > I mean ?..I am not sure, but he partly looked
> and
> > behaved like he was kind of sedated( sediert in
> > german)...
> > as I will go to the next Stones gig in Paris on
> > saturday I will watch him again carfully and
> than
> > I will see if there is something or if it was
> just
> > an off night like he has it from time to
> > time...although I do not mean this
> > musicalwise..his guitar playing seemed to be ok
> so
> > far...well at least from what I heard from time
> to
> > time.During Symphathy something was wrong with
> his
> > guitar...he stopped the solo and went to Pierre
> > the talked to each other, checked the guitar
> and
> > so...
> > during JJF & BS he was on fire again...I think.
> > They playd about 1 hour 55 minutes and
> performed
> > 19 songs.
> >
> > So all in all....it was , again, a high
> energetic
> > Stones show...with Jagger setting the standard
> to
> > higher levels....He alone, is worth the ticket
> > price, The the band was on fire, the audience
> was
> > hot, too....the sound was absoloutly
> aweful...it
> > can`t get worse...and therefor I could not
> enjoy
> > the show as I could , or better as I should.
> > Keith was somehow strange...and now I am
> looking
> > forward to Paris...where I will have normal FOS
> > tix...and this is my experience from todays
> > gig....being in the first ten rows is too
> > close...the stage is too high...you can not see
> > evrything whats going on stage....I mean the
> whole
> > production ( stage, sound and performancewise
> has
> > become so large, that, if you are really front
> > row, the show is blowing away over your
> > head....man kriegt irgendwie viel zu wenig mit
> da
> > vorne...besser 10 meter weiter hinten
> stehen....so
> > IMO the best place on a Stones gig is FOS about
> > 10-15 meters from first row..just between main
> and
> > bstage..this is the place to be..cause there
> you
> > get both...perfect sound and perfect view.
> >
> > So Good night so far
> > CUinParis
> > Salar
>
> Yes Salar, you're right in every word. But, I was
> row 20 which
> is 18 meter from the stage. Sound was sucking
> anyway. But I don't
> wanna write any further because I'm totally angry
> that they didn't
> deliver what they asked for...
>
>
> Was meinst du mit "sediziert"? Wie ich schon
> schrieb, sieht das wie
> Schlaganfall aus. Ich hoffe ich täusche mich
> wirklich!
das wort heißt sediert und kommt vom Begriff Sedierung (seltener auch Sedation, v. lat. sedare, "beruhigen") wird vor allem in der Medizin, z. B. in der Anästhesiologie oder bei Psychopharmaka verwendet. Ein Sedativum ist ein Beruhigungsmittel. Zur selben Arzneigruppe gehören auch Tranquilizer.
Will sagen, daß keith wirkte als stünde er unter Beruhigungsmittel...und bevor mir jetzt vorgehalten wird, ich sei kein Arzt, möchte ich darauf verweisen, daß ich Erfahrung als Pfleger in Krankenhaus und Altenheim habe...und keith wirkte vom Gesichtsausdruck, von Mimik und Gestik 100 % wie jemand der eben sediert wurde...er hatte diese "Robotermäßige" attidüde in seinem Bewegungsablauf..und ich war A2 Reihe 1 direkt vor der Bühne, keith side..und da ich wegen des nicht vorhandenen sounds ohnehin nichts hören konnte, hatte ich genug Zeit, Keith eindringlich zu beobachten.
Well...ich bin echt gespannt, wie das ganze übermorgen in Paris sein wird...zumindest soundwise weiß ich schon jetzt, daß es perfekt wird, weil das Stade De France m.E. das Stadium mit der Besten Akkoustik in ganz Europa ist.
( abgesehen vieleicht vom neuen Wembleystadiun..habe gehört, daß der sound dort, eine für open air gigs neue, Dimension bietet....im Positiven natürlich )
CuinParis
salar