>> Guess we're too late if the voting is in progress. <<

well i would like to see yours!
besides, the votes so far are making "something else" a strong contender.

>> I'm with sssoul. <<

i understand this as meaning your vote is the same as my vote, right?
ie for Mack Jigger's if the outlines can be made to look good, etc?

Hopefully by Monday or Tueday we can have the entries ready and in a seperate thread vote for the shirt we like.

Thanks to all who are puting a lot of effort into this.

I vote A) sssoul.

bv Wrote:
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> Where is this image coming from originally?
>
> [iorr.org]
>
> PS. I like it! Any thoughts? Any better ones?
> Both up close and easy to spot each band member...


What happened to since 1980? It almost like your turning this shirt into a rolling stones shirt instead of sticking more to the fan club. The stones are on tour in 2007,i know we are too but that i think takes away from your web-page.

Han Wrote:
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> I like the original of this one, which I now can't
> find...
>
> [i21.photobucket.com]
> STONES4FACESABLETT.jpg

This one is coolimo too Han.Maybe a little more added on the bottom since 1980 etc...

How about a 'Some Girls' type shirt with the heads of all band members past and present including those on the periphery, as far as the general public are concerned, by this I mean Lisa, Daryl and Chuck etc? Apologies if someones already put this idea forward, couldn't be *ssed to read 26 pages.

GrievousAngel Wrote:
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> OK let's forget for a moment the idea of an
> official iorr.org shirt.
>
> How's about a shirt "Members of IORR" with no
> restriction of fonts,colours, pictures or
> copyright.
>
> I mean the Shidoobeeans give a damn about these
> things and they're located in the US where they
> should have more restrictions than us.
>
> Let BV do his own shirt and the members do their
> own as well.

Well stated i agree. But there should be one that bv ultimatly likes and everyone votes on and likes too,for the original.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-01-20 21:18 by stonesfrk.

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> VI) seperate Ringo from George <<
>
> oh absolutely!
> i think the line-up you had at the start looks
> brilliant - Keith's arm around Charlie is lovely,
> and i understand that the versions posted here are
> "sketches", so that's cool.
> i would vote for as few fonts as possible - like
> two at most - and i agree with whoever said
> that red is a more likely colour than yellow -
> yellow's a colour that not many people look good
> in
> and besides, it attracts insects.
>
> that Voodoo design is cool too! :E
>
> here's my only non-idea - i wanted to include the
> bonkers-lookin fans from Ronnie's painting
> but (like Chuck Berry) i have tried and failed.
> :E
>
> [img.photobucket.com]
> iorr/iorrtshirtredb.jpg
> - photo by Jim Pietryga

Yeah sssoul,we would need an artist to draw those freaky looking bonker fans. But you got me jist of thing's though huh,you could make a really cool fan club shirt originating from that painting plus it's from this tour,it'a a brand new painting by Woody.

Don't like having a date on it - and why not have pictures of all of the fully fledged Stones members (i.e. as shown but with Mick T and Brian), since we are fans of all of them and not just the current lineup. It would give it a big advantage over any gig shirt.

If the election is tonight why does nobody vote? Are we T shirt tired?

Hey Rockman and Tralala, Thank's for the info on that b-stage painting by Woody. You know Edvard Munch very enlighting and interesting stuff. Youknow you learn something everyday.

x



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2007-01-21 06:00 by Beelyboy.

stonesfrk Wrote:

> By the way sjs i saw your e-mail do you work
> at Veritas UK. My cousin is Terry Cunningham,ring
> a bell?


I work for Bureau Veritas (BV for short!) as opposed to Veritas.

Beelyboy Wrote:
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> tylerdurden2001 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Don't like having a date on it - and why not
> have
> > pictures of all of the fully fledged Stones
> > members (i.e. as shown but with Mick T and
> Brian),
> > since we are fans of all of them and not just
> the
> > current lineup. It would give it a big
> advantage
> > over any gig shirt.
>
> yeh i agree. this is just one opinion, not to rain
> on anybody's parade...
> because i really respect the hard efforts of a lot
> of talented designers who obviously work so hard
> and care so much...it's really very touching...
>
> i am sure people will buy whatever shirt is
> produced and enjoy it...and hey, that's great...
> personally, i lost any interst in owning an iorr
> shirt when they demanded a pic, then reduced it to
> the current stones,..then put all that text and
> stuff...seems like it turned into a weird
> political suckass promo tool or something pretty
> quickly...instead of a family of fans who might
> want to recognize each other...celebrate the
> community here with each other and others.
> just mho, i see many here are totally excited and
> obviously would disagree with me heartedly...bless
> their hearts, really. if it's fun for ya, and u
> like the look, hey, who could argue with that...go
> for it.
>
> informed and ethical fans who wear whatever shirt
> that may come out (what, imo has increasingly
> devolved into the ' offically approved '
> template,) should bring another shirt if they wear
> this proposed one at a stones concert...and
> dutifully remove the "offically approved" version
> for any song originated with wyman or taylor or
> jones in the set...this is especially important if
> you're female.
>
> and to advertise 'since 1980!'...haaa
> why not "since the albums started to mostly suck
> for twenty years in a row!"
> and you put a happy face underneath it...
>
> there was a classy minimalist way to go about this
> that still would have been recognizable and cool,
> and true to the spirit of the entire stones thang,
> as a, err... music phenomenon...the music of the
> rolling stones...ah yes, the music of The Rolling
> Stones...and true to the spirit of the wonderful,
> funny and informative stuff that the iorr posters
> come up with all the time...
>
> it was hard to screw this up, but we
> managed...mackjigger had a great design early
> on...and ablett and other members were gracious
> enough to suggest they would have gone in any
> direction; members who are talented designers and
> open to suggestion and direction...that's nice to
> see...
>
> so, do excuse me please, but my feeling is more
> along the lines of:
> if you want me to wear a sandwich board for
> revisionist history, you have to pay me by the
> hour. a lot. actually, i wouldn't take the job.
>
> thing is, i don't think it just misrepresents the
> stones, i personally think it misrepresents what
> is best about iorr...the graciousness,
> intelligent, deeply informed collectors and
> historians and casual fans from all over the
> world...the great sense of outrageous humor...and
> also deep sense of caring and heart displayed
> here...reduces it to a kinda weird promo thing
> that misses the point (imo) somehow...
>
> i will remove this post fairly soon, as i don't
> want to be a curmudgeon and most people seem
> really happy with things...but i wanted to express
> my individual feelings on it...

You have some good point's i agree with Beely,but come on Tatto you sucking and undercover i don't think so there some of my favorites. Like one critic said tatoo you sounded like cocaine was recorded in it it sounded so good as in posh cocaine. But i agree just have a simple iorr shirt so people recognize other people don't turn it into a stones shirt and try and to impress them,they have enogh going on and they will eventually see them it really for us the fans. and say hey who are you on the board.sorry i will qoute some of this post later i m late for a lunch out.

>> there was a classy minimalist way to go about this that still would have been recognizable and cool <<

great! can you show us what that one looks like, Beelyboy?

Stray Cat Blues?
Sici





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-01-20 23:49 by only stones.

I'm not the only (female) IORRer whose heart sinks at the thought of another one size fits all t-shirt that will look like a big tent. The link below is for a pattern to alter the shapeless, high neck t-shirts into something wearable. Now we just need to find someone who can sew the damn things and alter them!

[pamelaspatterns.com]

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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2007-01-25 19:10 by Beelyboy.

>> i would appreciate your take on that. <<

since you ask: i like the idea of a simple logo-type thing too, but since the Stones' logo is out
and this site doesn't have a logo per se, someone would need to come up with a compelling symbol,
and it seems like that hasn't been proposed yet, since not everyone's saying YEAH THAT'S IT! to anything.
at the same time, i have nothing (0) against the idea of using a cool image of the four current Stones.
i can love the band's whole history without needing it all on a tshirt.

Stargroves Wrote:
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> I'm not the only (female) IORRer whose heart sinks
> at the thought of another one size fits all
> t-shirt that will look like a big tent. The link
> below is for a pattern to alter the shapeless,
> high neck t-shirts into something wearable. Now
> we just need to find someone who can sew the damn
> things and alter them!
>
> [pamelaspatterns.com]

that site has some cute things - i like the ponchos - and well priced.

however, you can buy women's "fitted" shirts - here's a link to one site which seems decently priced and are meant to be ordered in bulk:

[www.indigoclothing.com]

with sssoul Wrote:
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> here's a link to the Ronnie b-stage painting:
> [www.iorr.org]#
> msg-619753
> that would indeed be amusing on a fan club tshirt,
> if permission were granted

Thank you sssoul,for posting that link of the b-stage painting. I learned a few thing's here from some historins on Munch,very interesting. Thanx again,i still think we could make a killer iorr shirt out of that painting with some work. I might have some brillant artist friends of mine conjour something up,if that happens i will post it and see if anyone would like one of them.Peace. WOW! with sssoul you were my 500th post,do i get some sort of chip here like AA, HA!HA! just kidding lol.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-01-21 01:43 by stonesfrk.

One more idea - why not just charlie. Here's an image I'd like to see...

only stones Wrote:
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> Stray Cat Blues?
> Sici
>
> [it.geocities.com]
> es.jpg


For some reason to me anyway the stones tour 2007 does'nt work,imo don't want to bum anybody out because everybody is trying here. It just seems to much official stones. One other thing i don't know how you could do it bv,but like you said early on people were saying stones fan club of europe like you said,IORR is the biggest and best stones fan club on the net according to google and like you said it is world wide now not just Europe. So if you could sqeeze all world or stones world wide fan club i think that would be cool since 1980 it just show's how big and great your site has become.

i love that charlie silhouette!

i have a new idea - maybe this is too complicated, but the Monkees did it for their '86 comeback tour:

have several shirts from which to choose - one with that charlie silhouette, one with that keith silhouette, one with that mick silhouette, and one with a ronnie silhouette (or maybe one with brian, mick t, and ronnie all together). the text would be the same on all shirts.

for the monkees tour, of course, i picked the davy jones shirt.

Is there a deadline for submissions?

I Vote for any and All

Call me a grouch but I vote NO for red and NO for that photo. It's too big and Keith doesn't look good in the first one and he ends up with a ridiculous look on his face in the manipulated one. Ablett has come up with some good ideas and so has Mack Jigger. I vote YES for Ablett's reverse but on the front instead. I'm probably in a minority but I would prefer no photo. Just a logo and some discreet wording instead. Understatement rather than in your face. Just my humble two pennies' worth.

Call me pedantic as well, but "n" (as in "and") has two letters missing from it, so both should be replaced by an apostrophe - not just the first one. That is to say: rock 'n' roll

Anything is fine with me, put me down for one sight unseen.

I guess that's the bottom line - we're all likely to get one whatever...