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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: Beast ()
Date: January 26, 2021 16:03

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I guess this is the next thing...rich and/or entitled people jumping the queue for vaccines.

[www.thestar.com]

Couple who chartered plane to get COVID vaccine in Yukon misled about jobs, locals say. Now they face charges — and fury
By Alex BoydCalgary Bureau
Douglas QuanVancouver Bureau
Mon., Jan. 25, 2021

While an official response took longer, she says there was one sign that, to her, suggested the tight-knit town had already passed judgment.

“Nobody gave them a ride back to the airport. They had to walk.”

Thanks for posting this story.
It is hard to understand it is real, but sadly so many people are so selfish.
Now they have to live with the shame.

Private concierge services are apparently arranging for some of their super-rich clients to skip the queue and have vaccinations in places like the UAE, where you can pay to have them done privately.

Meanwhile, an unseemly row is breaking out in Europe over vaccine supplies, with threats of legal action.



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angry smileyRe: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: SomeTorontoGirl ()
Date: January 26, 2021 16:14

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Private concierge services are apparently arranging for some of their super-rich clients to skip the queue and have vaccinations in places like the UAE, where you can pay to have them done privately.

Meanwhile, an unseemly row is breaking out in Europe over vaccine supplies, with threats of legal action.

Hmmm...perhaps someone should enquire as to who is supplying vaccines to the UAE and any other countries that do so, and other countries should lobby to reduce their supply.

To quote Amy Winehouse...what kind of f*ckery is this?


Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: bv ()
Date: January 26, 2021 16:20

Vaccine tourism on the rise as wealthy international tourists eye an opportunity in the U.S. (NBC News Jan 25, 2021)

Florida has already taken steps to stop the "abhorrent" flow of scarce coronavirus vaccinations to wealthy line-cutters.

Shortly before the Covid-19 vaccine made its debut last month in the United States, an Indian travel agency called Gem Tours & Travels announced it was registering customers for an exciting new package: a four-day trip from Mumbai to New York City with a coronavirus shot thrown in for about $2,000.

"Vaccine tourism," Nimesh Shah, the company's business development specialist, called it.

Bjornulf

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: SomeTorontoGirl ()
Date: January 26, 2021 16:28

Bjornulf - I’m embarrassed to say that there are Canadian ‘Snowbirds’ (winter visitors) in Florida who not only have travelled there this year per usual, but who have sought out vaccines while there. Shameful.


Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: January 26, 2021 17:08

Will be nice to watch this tracker climb globally..
Updated frequently.

Covid-19 vaccine tracker: the global race to vaccinate
Total vaccination doses given globally so far:
68,422,747 from 64 locations

[ig.ft.com]


Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: January 26, 2021 18:41

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Vaccine tourism on the rise as wealthy international tourists eye an opportunity in the U.S. (NBC News Jan 25, 2021)

Florida has already taken steps to stop the "abhorrent" flow of scarce coronavirus vaccinations to wealthy line-cutters.

Shortly before the Covid-19 vaccine made its debut last month in the United States, an Indian travel agency called Gem Tours & Travels announced it was registering customers for an exciting new package: a four-day trip from Mumbai to New York City with a coronavirus shot thrown in for about $2,000.

"Vaccine tourism," Nimesh Shah, the company's business development specialist, called it.

And then they need to go back three weeks later? confused smiley

Re: angry smileyRe: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: January 26, 2021 18:54

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Beast
Private concierge services are apparently arranging for some of their super-rich clients to skip the queue and have vaccinations in places like the UAE, where you can pay to have them done privately.

Meanwhile, an unseemly row is breaking out in Europe over vaccine supplies, with threats of legal action.

Hmmm...perhaps someone should enquire as to who is supplying vaccines to the UAE and any other countries that do so, and other countries should lobby to reduce their supply.

To quote Amy Winehouse...what kind of f*ckery is this?

Could this be the missing US inventory from the US. Dis someone like Jared sell and pocket the funds? Hmmm.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: January 26, 2021 22:51

Working on a vaccine for many corona type viruses that may emerge in the future:

[www.businesswire.com]

Yeah, science!



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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: January 26, 2021 23:42

Good news.


White House reaches agreements to buy more vaccines by summer

President Joe Biden's administration said it has secured commitments from vaccine makers to buy another 200 million doses to arrive this summer -- 100 million from Pfizer and 100 million from Moderna.

This raises the total to 600 million and ensures the U.S. will eventually have two shots for nearly every American.
[abcnews.go.com]

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: January 27, 2021 07:36

^ Why wasn't this done 4 months ago? It should have been.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: stickyfingers101 ()
Date: January 27, 2021 16:02

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SomeTorontoGirl
Bjornulf - I’m embarrassed to say that there are Canadian ‘Snowbirds’ (winter visitors) in Florida who not only have travelled there this year per usual, but who have sought out vaccines while there. Shameful.

agree 100%

...but we are told "trust the science"...but, the gov't "line" is not based on science.

Case in Point: the gov't decided who was "important" (or "most at risk")....and they promptly put themselves at the front of the line...

Hence, rich people think THEY are the "most important" so they skip the line too....shameful, but not surprising in the slightest

"the holidays come, then the go...nothing new today" - Axl

On that note: I find our gov't "public servants" to be far more shameful in their behavior....they don't even pay for their "I cut the line" shot, the taxpayers do.

pathetic....I mean, are we honestly going to claim that the USA can't function w/o Marco Rubio? Or Ed Markey & EWarren (my state)?

Though, of course, my "gov't" and "rich people" are basically the same thing...so, there is also that...

Point: if gov't officials can cut the line, don't be surprised if others try to do the same....

Gov't: "Do as I say, not as I do"

sad, really.

Oh well....as a teacher in MA, I just got moved BACK in the line...

I guess we're not "important" enough, nor are we "high risk" w/ 30+ un-vaccinated kids crammed into a room w/ me 5x per day....

"trust the science"...more like "me first"

I digress....this is gross, SomeToronto...I agree.

sorry for the rant.

Re: angry smileyRe: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: stickyfingers101 ()
Date: January 27, 2021 16:10

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Private concierge services are apparently arranging for some of their super-rich clients to skip the queue and have vaccinations in places like the UAE, where you can pay to have them done privately.

Meanwhile, an unseemly row is breaking out in Europe over vaccine supplies, with threats of legal action.

Hmmm...perhaps someone should enquire as to who is supplying vaccines to the UAE and any other countries that do so, and other countries should lobby to reduce their supply.

To quote Amy Winehouse...what kind of f*ckery is this?

Could this be the missing US inventory from the US. Dis someone like Jared sell and pocket the funds? Hmmm.

of course that's what happened (Jared and many others on both sides of the aisle)....but this happened after the gov't got their shots, of course.

there is so much money and chaos sloshing around right now, I can't imagine the level of corruption.

[www.wsj.com]

[www.justice.gov]

[www.pewtrusts.org]

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: MAF ()
Date: January 27, 2021 20:10

In the news: Norway closes the borders

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: Bungo ()
Date: January 27, 2021 21:27

My wife and I both got our Pfizer vaccine (2 dose protocol) here in Texas.



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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: bv ()
Date: January 27, 2021 21:35

Today at 6:30pm a short notice press conference announing:
Norway closing the borders for the first time since the March 12 lockdown.

Even if Norway have got some of the lowest corona virus case numbers vs population in Europe, and reproduction rate down to R=0.6 at present, the borders will be closes as of Friday morning, in order to avoid any more mutants coming in from abroad.

A total of 15 counties, including capital city Oslo, closed down last Saturday, and on Monday ten more counties, including where I live, closed down as well. A total of 25 counties with nearly one third of Norway's population is now closed this week, in order to terminate the virus mutants coming from UK, as well as other places. All shopping centers and malls are closed, except food stores, pharmacies and liquor stores. Yes, we do need our wines and drinks in these days, where restaurants have a complete alcohol ban since November. Schools and kindergardens are still open. Adults are adviced to work from home if possible.

Bjornulf

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: bv ()
Date: January 27, 2021 21:39

Please no political statements here. They will be deleted.

Bjornulf



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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: January 28, 2021 09:19

Got my first vaccine today. The Moderna version. Stood in line for two hours in the cold. Luckily it didn't rain. It's supposed to tomorrow. I'm scheduled for the second dose in four weeks. I'm very relieved to get it. With so many a-holes not wearing masks, or not covering their nose, it's always stressful to go out for groceries and such. Hopefully we can get more of the vaccine out and begin to climb out of this depressing, worldwide mess.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: kovach ()
Date: January 28, 2021 15:32

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^ Why wasn't this done 4 months ago? It should have been.

I believe the first purchases were made before vaccines were even submitted for approval, so was a bit of a hedged bet that paid off as a good start. Glad we secured enough for 2nd doses.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Date: January 28, 2021 15:37

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Got my first vaccine today. The Moderna version. Stood in line for two hours in the cold. Luckily it didn't rain. It's supposed to tomorrow. I'm scheduled for the second dose in four weeks. I'm very relieved to get it. With so many a-holes not wearing masks, or not covering their nose, it's always stressful to go out for groceries and such. Hopefully we can get more of the vaccine out and begin to climb out of this depressing, worldwide mess.

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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: bv ()
Date: January 28, 2021 15:41

COVID-19: EU eyes UK vaccine supply as AstraZeneca row deepens (Sky News)

Brussels is pushing for the pharmaceutical giant to make up its shortfall of jabs using its factories in Britain.

A senior EU official has suggested coronavirus vaccines produced in the UK should be shared with the bloc, as its supply comes under pressure.

Brussels's health commissioner Stella Kyriakides said given AstraZeneca is blaming production problems at factories in Europe on the shortfall in jabs delivered, the pharmaceutical giant's plants in Britain should be used instead.

Bjornulf

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: January 28, 2021 15:59

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COVID-19: EU eyes UK vaccine supply as AstraZeneca row deepens (Sky News)

Brussels is pushing for the pharmaceutical giant to make up its shortfall of jabs using its factories in Britain.

A senior EU official has suggested coronavirus vaccines produced in the UK should be shared with the bloc, as its supply comes under pressure.

Brussels's health commissioner Stella Kyriakides said given AstraZeneca is blaming production problems at factories in Europe on the shortfall in jabs delivered, the pharmaceutical giant's plants in Britain should be used instead.

Very controversial, with the U.K. having just left the E.U.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: stickyfingers101 ()
Date: January 28, 2021 16:46

Cuba never ceases to amaze me.

[www.reuters.com]

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: bv ()
Date: January 28, 2021 17:26

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Cuba never ceases to amaze me.

[www.reuters.com]

Cuba have been lacking a lot, including drugs, due the long time embargo, so they have been working hard educating doctors, surgery methods and so on, also education in general, better than the western mass production of 30+ kids in classes.

So no surprise they do their own vaccines, they are out in the dark, on their own. From the Reuters report:

HAVANA (Reuters) - As Latin American nations test experimental coronavirus vaccines from across the globe and economic heavyweights such as Brazil and Mexico jockey for supply deals with major drugmakers, Communist-run Cuba already has two of its own vaccines in clinical trials.

Cuba has long exported vaccines to the developing world, including shots against meningitis and hepatitis B, although data on recent sales is not public.

Late revolutionary leader Fidel Castro backed a home-grown biotech sector in the 1980s, partly so Cuba could become more self-sufficient in the face of a U.S. trade embargo. It has since become a major part of the economy.

Bjornulf

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: bv ()
Date: January 28, 2021 17:53

The UK variant of the corona virus is now running more and more countries in Europe into the first major lockdown since March last year. UK, Denmark, Ireland and Denmark have had explosive numbers with the UK variant going dominant since Nov/Dec last year. Other countries try to avoid it, knowing it might be almost doble trouble. Most countries does not sequence the virus samples, so they don't really know about mutants in details, that is a major problem.

The UK variant is a lot more infectious. A story made available in Norway today is telling how hard it is to avoid this new variant.

Gunnar age 73 lives in Ski, a small place part of the county Nordre Follo, where we do currently have an uncontrolled situation in Norway due to the UK variant. He visited a friend at a nursing home in a nearby nursing home in Langhus on New Years Eve. Wearing a mask at all times, never touching any doors (they were all automatic), or other items, he was sitting on a stool at the end of the bed, 1.5 m i.e. 5 feet away from his friend, visit for some 50 minutes max. Two days later, he got covid-19, and two days after that, his wife age 76 got covid-19. Then they tested his friend at the nursing home, he had covid-19.

So a mask indoor - in company of a person having covid-19 - is not a safe protection. You need 2 meter (6ft), or more, and you need to be outside, not indoor. May be it is aerosols, may be it is not 100% fit mask/face. Still, the way most people wear masks, and the way people meet and hang around indoor, no wonder this new variant is running many countries into a new wave now.

Smittet av mutert virus: - Skulle ikke være mulig (Dagbladet - in Norwegian)
(English: Infected by mutant virus - should not be possible)

Global spread of UK coronavirus variant could overwhelm health systems (New Scientist)

Bjornulf

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: Chris Fountain ()
Date: January 28, 2021 20:14

"You need 2 meter (6ft), or more, and you need to be outside, not indoor."


Any reports of virus variant lifetime once airborne?

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: January 28, 2021 22:07

I was an early proponent of masks here, and in real life, back when the virus started and the general consensus was mask wearing was not something the US could adapt to quickly, and that it would take away masks from health professionals etc who needed them more, which was generally true at the time.

Now, consensus is leaning towards wearing two masks, particularly in high risk areas. One an N-95 style mask covered with a cloth one seems prudent.
It's a shame, at least here in the US, N-95 type masks are still difficult to find and purchase.
Admittedly I haven't tried lately as I have consistently double masked when in higher risk environments.

Time to double or upgrade masks as coronavirus variants emerge, experts say
Better face coverings are needed to curb more-transmissible strains as vaccine rollout is underway, they say

Wear your mask is becoming wear your masks.
The discovery of highly transmissible coronavirus variants in the United States has public health experts urging Americans to upgrade the simple cloth masks that have become a staple shield during the pandemic.
The change can be as simple as slapping a second mask over the one you already wear, or better yet, donning a fabric mask on top of a surgical mask. Some experts say it is time to buy the highest-quality KN95 or N95 masks that officials hoping to reserve supplies for health-care workers have long discouraged Americans from purchasing.

What you need to know about the coronavirus variants
As with other parts of the pandemic response, the United States lags behind other parts of the world when it comes to masks. Several Asian countries, including Singapore and South Korea, have mass-produced high-quality masks to send directly to residents. In recent weeks, European countries have begun mandating medical-grade masks in public settings as the virus strain first identified in the United Kingdom threatens to ravage communities. British scientists estimate it could be as much as 70 percent more transmissible.

“The existence of more-transmissible viruses emphasizes the importance of us upping our game and doing not more of the same but better of the same,” said Tom Frieden, former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Frieden has called for people to wear higher-quality masks. “Yes, that is confusing to people, but the key is to share what we know when we know it and be frank about what we don’t know.”
[www.washingtonpost.com]

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: Chris Fountain ()
Date: January 28, 2021 22:27

importance of us upping our game and doing not more of the same but better of the same,”


Just as important as the vaccine- I think most people, including me, are not sure of where to purchase extra protective masks The variant virus is very disturbing.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: Beast ()
Date: January 28, 2021 23:53

I've been using Sonovia antiviral masks for months now, though there are also other companies making them. These ones claim to have high filtration and to neutralize coronavirus to over 90%. I obviously can't vouch for the claims, but either way they are for sure better quality and value than disposables and no doubt better than home-made, which France has now banned in certain settings.

Check out all the different sections of their website for info on the technology, the coronavirus context etc. The blog contains a fairly detailed comparison with N95 masks.

[sonoviatech.com]

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: Nate ()
Date: January 28, 2021 23:56

The most important weapon against this virus is to simply stay away from other people.Of course it is not always possible in all situations but some people are still socialising and having unnecessary contact when they really should be exercising much more caution.
In the last few days I have learnt of the death of two people I knew one of whom contracted the virus whilst in hospital for an unrelated surgery.

Nate

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 status around the world
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: January 28, 2021 23:56

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^ Why wasn't this done 4 months ago? It should have been.

I believe the first purchases were made before vaccines were even submitted for approval, so was a bit of a hedged bet that paid off as a good start. Glad we secured enough for 2nd doses.

With Pfizer it was an option to buy assuming approval. In this case there was no money upfront. I think Moderna was pre-funded but still the option to buy should have been made as we were led to believe. There should have been options to buy for 300 million Americans rather than 150 or 200 million.

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