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have a hamper outside your house for her to change out of her clothes immediately BEFORE entering your home.....clothes straight to the machine....she goes straight to the shower. Anti-Bacterial soap no matter what.
(Genuine question)
Does anti-bacterial soap have any effect on a virus?
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Ps. BV, which are your sources for the COVID-19 being airborne? The WHO and the Swedish People's Health Authority says it's not. They say it spreads through droplets. Which is not the same as being airborne. Ds
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It is actually sad to think that the corona crisis might end one big cultural era. Not only the touring days of the Stones but all those of other greats from their generation and of classical era of rock who are still here and have toured a lot in recent years: Dylan, Macca, Young, etc. We don't know when the things are back in 'normal' - are we talking about years - and these dudes aren't getting any younger. These legends have lived through so many phases and obstacles, and now this bloody virus is putting a stop on all this. Surely they - or some of them - will perform in some way or other in future, but be it again travelling the world and so on like we used to. I especially feel sad if Dylan's 'never-ending tour' stops like this.. For him it seems to be a way of life...
- Doxa
The Virus or vaccin is not the only problem . It's almost 100% sure already that there will be no pinkpop 2021 for the simple reason that all the big acts want to get payed in advance, but no insurance company will cover the bill.Vaccin,Virus or not. Don't worry about Dylan, the Stones or Young or Macca, they will write a song about it. I feel sorry for the less privileged bands and musicians that can hardly survive or still have to establish their name, the smaller clubs and theaters.The real cultural damage
lies in the future, not in the past.
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It is actually sad to think that the corona crisis might end one big cultural era. Not only the touring days of the Stones but all those of other greats from their generation and of classical era of rock who are still here and have toured a lot in recent years: Dylan, Macca, Young, etc. We don't know when the things are back in 'normal' - are we talking about years - and these dudes aren't getting any younger. These legends have lived through so many phases and obstacles, and now this bloody virus is putting a stop on all this. Surely they - or some of them - will perform in some way or other in future, but be it again travelling the world and so on like we used to. I especially feel sad if Dylan's 'never-ending tour' stops like this.. For him it seems to be a way of life...
- Doxa
The Virus or vaccin is not the only problem . It's almost 100% sure already that there will be no pinkpop 2021 for the simple reason that all the big acts want to get payed in advance, but no insurance company will cover the bill.Vaccin,Virus or not. Don't worry about Dylan, the Stones or Young or Macca, they will write a song about it. I feel sorry for the less privileged bands and musicians that can hardly survive or still have to establish their name, the smaller clubs and theaters.The real cultural damage
lies in the future, not in the past.
True what you say. It's all relative. The tragedy has many faces, and I am sure the biggest is not the fate of some millioners living a safe and secure life. When the affects of corona virus are someday counted, I am sure all these legends of the past are not very high in the list.
However, since all is relative, these people do count too. And I think the reason why we all are here in this site gathered together, has very much to do with these people and the culture they represent. I think it is very sad if all that need to end like this.
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stickyfingers101
have a hamper outside your house for her to change out of her clothes immediately BEFORE entering your home.....clothes straight to the machine....she goes straight to the shower. Anti-Bacterial soap no matter what.
(Genuine question)
Does anti-bacterial soap have any effect on a virus?
Soap destroys it, whether the soap is antibacterial or not is irrelevant (at least where the virus is concerned: it may save you from bacterial diseases of course).
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Ps. BV, which are your sources for the COVID-19 being airborne? The WHO and the Swedish People's Health Authority says it's not. They say it spreads through droplets. Which is not the same as being airborne. Ds
I know you keep stating the virus is not airborne. That is why I posted the following on the very end of page 142 of this thread:
The corona virus is airborne
I listed seven - 7 - links and two - 2 - graphs. If the virus is NOT AT ALL airborne, then how come the persons C1 and C2 below, sitting some 3m i.e. 10 feet away from the only sick person A1, both get sick?
The droplets travel in air. May be they don't stay in the air for hours, and may be they don't travel through rooms, but they do not fall to the ground like larger drops.
There might be an academic discussion of how long and how far a virus may travel before you define it as being airborne. Forget about that discussion. Fact is if you work in an office, or sit in a restaurant, closer than 2-3 m from a person with covid-19, for more than 15 minutes, you may get the covid-19 disease. That is the tracing and quarantine norm in Norway, used in the Norwegian "Smittestopp" corona virus tracking app, and used by the tracing team, and that is why they talk about a minimum of 2m apart, even 3m would be better, indoor.
Airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2: The world should face the reality ( ScienceDirect, Volume 139, June 2020)
New York Times: A diagram of the arrangement of a restaurant’s tables and air conditioning airflow at site of an outbreak of coronavirus in Guangzhou, China. Red circles indicate the seating of future case-patients; the yellow-filled red circle indicates the index case, or first-documented, patient. Credit: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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have a hamper outside your house for her to change out of her clothes immediately BEFORE entering your home.....clothes straight to the machine....she goes straight to the shower. Anti-Bacterial soap no matter what.
(Genuine question)
Does anti-bacterial soap have any effect on a virus?
Soap destroys it, whether the soap is antibacterial or not is irrelevant (at least where the virus is concerned: it may save you from bacterial diseases of course).
^^^ What she said.
I always assumed anti-bacterial worked better, but I guess it doesn't make much difference w/ viruses....learn somethin' new every day.
But, hey...why not kill dem bacteria's too!
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BV
The prime vector is airborn droplets indoors. Especially confined indoor spaces with poor ventilation. This covers many offices, factories, homes, movie theaters, sports arenas. I think surface transmission is exaggerated. You will not get Covid by touching items in a store.
Covid has a very very poor chance of infecting you outdoors. Even at a crowded park or beach. The enemies of Covid transmission are sunlight, breeze and micro-breezes
BTW I read that Wuhan had a very overcast January, when Covid really spread.
Vitamin D is a Covid enemy.
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Like most things in life, use some common sense and you should be safe.
Nothing is ever guaranteed. Don't be STUPID!
I'm with Elmo, here, but I would add - BE NICE TO ONE ANOTHER and stop politicizing the f@#&ing virus!
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BV
The prime vector is airborn droplets indoors. Especially confined indoor spaces with poor ventilation. This covers many offices, factories, homes, movie theaters, sports arenas. I think surface transmission is exaggerated. You will not get Covid by touching items in a store.
Covid has a very very poor chance of infecting you outdoors. Even at a crowded park or beach. The enemies of Covid transmission are sunlight, breeze and micro-breezes
BTW I read that Wuhan had a very overcast January, when Covid really spread.
Vitamin D is a Covid enemy.
That's correct. Unless you touch your mouth or your eyes, that is. And most of us can't avoid doing that.
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MisterDDDD
Never a big fan of buffets, but now I doubt I will ever eat from one again, even post virus.
Alarming video shows just how quickly coronavirus could spread around a restaurant
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Chris Fountain
I am wearing a mask every time I go out to stores and finding myself getting more and more annoyed at those who don't.
The folks that don't take precautions are going to pay. I've read what this virus can do to a person. It will attack you in many ways - Survivors are saying it was their worse experience ever. People need to realize that is not just the flu.
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[I must disagree. Of course I refrain from touching my eyes and mouth when I am out and about. Just to be sure. But if I go into a number of stores and touch many items I am not going to pick up any Covid or it will be a bare minimum. Meaning not enough to harm me. Now if an infected shopper picked up an item and sneezed onto it...I can see Covid transmission there is high if I pick it up and start touching my eyes. But how many are sneezing onto items as they shop? Maybe breathing onto some...
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I am wearing a mask every time I go out to stores and finding myself getting more and more annoyed at those who don't.
The folks that don't take precautions are going to pay. I've read what this virus can do to a person. It will attack you in many ways - Survivors are saying it was their worse experience ever. People need to realize that is not just the flu.
This is the point I have been trying to make. Why won't people wear a mask? Selfishness, stupidity, following the lead of the President? What is it?
As someone who survived, trust me, it IS NOT THE FLU.