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Hairball
Some interesting images appearing from various protests around the country ...
Pennsylvania
(found via google)
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EddieByword
the stupidest people on earth ................there's not another country on the planet whose populations are pulling this type of shit.....................
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But don't label them Trump supporters just because they are not doing what you want them to do.
Trump calls protesters against stay-at-home orders 'very responsible' (The Guardian 18 Apr 2020)
“LIBERATE MINNESOTA!” the US president wrote in capital letters on Friday. “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!”
He followed up with a third tweet: “LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!” – a reference to Virginia’s governor, Ralph Northam, last week signing into law new measures on gun control.
Trump has repeatedly ignored his own entreaty to put partisan politics aside during the coronavirus pandemic. His latest provocative interventions followed demonstrations against stay-at-home orders in Michigan, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia and other states that have drawn elements of the far right.
Some protesters have carried guns, waved Trump and Confederate flags and sought to frame the debate as a defence of constitutional freedoms. They have been egged on by conservative media hosts such as Fox News’s Jeanine Pirro, who said: “What happened in Lansing [Michigan] today, God bless them: it’s going to happen all over the country.”
They are not all Trump supporters. Some and Probably many of them are just people that want to go back to work etc.
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But don't label them Trump supporters just because they are not doing what you want them to do.
Trump calls protesters against stay-at-home orders 'very responsible' (The Guardian 18 Apr 2020)
“LIBERATE MINNESOTA!” the US president wrote in capital letters on Friday. “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!”
He followed up with a third tweet: “LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!” – a reference to Virginia’s governor, Ralph Northam, last week signing into law new measures on gun control.
Trump has repeatedly ignored his own entreaty to put partisan politics aside during the coronavirus pandemic. His latest provocative interventions followed demonstrations against stay-at-home orders in Michigan, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia and other states that have drawn elements of the far right.
Some protesters have carried guns, waved Trump and Confederate flags and sought to frame the debate as a defence of constitutional freedoms. They have been egged on by conservative media hosts such as Fox News’s Jeanine Pirro, who said: “What happened in Lansing [Michigan] today, God bless them: it’s going to happen all over the country.”
They are not all Trump supporters. Some and Probably many of them are just people that want to go back to work etc.
Maybe there should be a government that supports its people more.
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But don't label them Trump supporters just because they are not doing what you want them to do.
Trump calls protesters against stay-at-home orders 'very responsible' (The Guardian 18 Apr 2020)
“LIBERATE MINNESOTA!” the US president wrote in capital letters on Friday. “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!”
He followed up with a third tweet: “LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!” – a reference to Virginia’s governor, Ralph Northam, last week signing into law new measures on gun control.
Trump has repeatedly ignored his own entreaty to put partisan politics aside during the coronavirus pandemic. His latest provocative interventions followed demonstrations against stay-at-home orders in Michigan, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia and other states that have drawn elements of the far right.
Some protesters have carried guns, waved Trump and Confederate flags and sought to frame the debate as a defence of constitutional freedoms. They have been egged on by conservative media hosts such as Fox News’s Jeanine Pirro, who said: “What happened in Lansing [Michigan] today, God bless them: it’s going to happen all over the country.”
They are not all Trump supporters. Some and Probably many of them are just people that want to go back to work etc.
Maybe there should be a government that supports its people more.
What more can a government, or any entity do, than to try to protect lives?
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But don't label them Trump supporters just because they are not doing what you want them to do.
Trump calls protesters against stay-at-home orders 'very responsible' (The Guardian 18 Apr 2020)
“LIBERATE MINNESOTA!” the US president wrote in capital letters on Friday. “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!”
He followed up with a third tweet: “LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!” – a reference to Virginia’s governor, Ralph Northam, last week signing into law new measures on gun control.
Trump has repeatedly ignored his own entreaty to put partisan politics aside during the coronavirus pandemic. His latest provocative interventions followed demonstrations against stay-at-home orders in Michigan, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia and other states that have drawn elements of the far right.
Some protesters have carried guns, waved Trump and Confederate flags and sought to frame the debate as a defence of constitutional freedoms. They have been egged on by conservative media hosts such as Fox News’s Jeanine Pirro, who said: “What happened in Lansing [Michigan] today, God bless them: it’s going to happen all over the country.”
They are not all Trump supporters. Some and Probably many of them are just people that want to go back to work etc.
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jumpontopofmebaby
The Home of the Free and the Brave!
I am not that brave! But some are.
More like the home of the 'Out of control' and the stupidest people on earth ................there's not another country on the planet whose populations are pulling this type of shit.....................
I guess it's as Mick said in 1983 - "You're free to kill, that's for sure" - It must be hell - Undercover 1983
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EddieByword
the stupidest people on earth ................there's not another country on the planet whose populations are pulling this type of shit.....................
It's obviously not everyone here doing that idiotic stuff Eddie, but just thought I'd clarify that in case you had the wrong idea.
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The Home of the Free and the Brave!
I am not that brave! But some are.
More like the home of the 'Out of control' and the stupidest people on earth ................there's not another country on the planet whose populations are pulling this type of shit.....................
I guess it's as Mick said in 1983 - "You're free to kill, that's for sure" - It must be hell - Undercover 1983
So, Americans are the "Stupidest People on Earth?"....
that's a nice sweeping, unwarranted blanket statement to throw at 330 million people.
you can have a mulligan....try to be more civil in the future.
Thanks in advance.
I'm starting to think that maybe BV should shut this thread down. Such statements are simply gross.
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The Home of the Free and the Brave!
I am not that brave! But some are.
More like the home of the 'Out of control' and the stupidest people on earth ................there's not another country on the planet whose populations are pulling this type of shit.....................
I guess it's as Mick said in 1983 - "You're free to kill, that's for sure" - It must be hell - Undercover 1983
So, Americans are the "Stupidest People on Earth?"....
that's a nice sweeping, unwarranted blanket statement to throw at 330 million people.
you can have a mulligan....try to be more civil in the future.
Thanks in advance.
I'm starting to think that maybe BV should shut this thread down. Such statements are simply gross.
I didn't write that.
The US is also the home of Trump - that doesn't mean everyone is called trump.
The US is also uniquely, the home of the Bald Eagle - it doesn't make every eagle in the US a Bald eagle.
Being the 'home of'.....doesn't make everyone who lives there stupid.......think logically, please......
Likewise, being the home of the Free and brave doesn't make everyone 'free'.......or brave.
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If anyone gets the Smithsonian channel, there is a series called America’s Hidden Stories and tonight’s episode deals with the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, including what happens when the curve isn’t quite flattened and society reopens. Someone who has already seen it recommended it for me, I have it set to record.
It is 102 years ago, but people don't learn from history...
A parade that killed thousands? (The Week April 18, 2020)
On Sept. 28, 1918, Philadelphia city officials refused to cancel their parade amid the Spanish flu pandemic, with devastating health consequences.
By the second week in November, 12,000 Philadelphians were dead, and the phrase "bodies stacked like cordwood" had become commonplace among the survivors. "It was an apocalyptic scene," said Davis. "In some cases, public-health nurses would be walking into tenements and finding whole families dead." Bodies piled up on sidewalks after the city morgue, capable of holding only 36 people, was overwhelmed. Within six months, 16,000 were dead, and 500,000 Philadelphians had fallen ill with the flu.
The Trump supporters of Philadelphia took to the streets today, protesting the lockdown and acting like fools!
Were all of them just Trump supporters?
How many wearing MAGA hats?
I don't see any
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they are magats urged on by this malevolent president, the nra, the de vos family, right wing radio, fox news and all rupert murdoch media. it is anti-science, anti-education and absolutely some of the dumbest shit i've ever seen.
No they are just people tired of being locked down and out of work.
They feel it is their choice to take the risk or not.
I get that. I don't agree but I get it. And I can avoid them.
I don't smoke and never have. Some people do knowing damn well it can kill them.
Not everyone thinks the same.
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The Home of the Free and the Brave!
I am not that brave! But some are.
More like the home of the 'Out of control' and the stupidest people on earth ................there's not another country on the planet whose populations are pulling this type of shit.....................
I guess it's as Mick said in 1983 - "You're free to kill, that's for sure" - It must be hell - Undercover 1983
So, Americans are the "Stupidest People on Earth?"....
that's a nice sweeping, unwarranted blanket statement to throw at 330 million people.
you can have a mulligan....try to be more civil in the future.
Thanks in advance.
I'm starting to think that maybe BV should shut this thread down. Such statements are simply gross.
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jumpontopofmebaby
The Home of the Free and the Brave!
I am not that brave! But some are.
More like the home of the 'Out of control' and the stupidest people on earth ................there's not another country on the planet whose populations are pulling this type of shit.....................
I guess it's as Mick said in 1983 - "You're free to kill, that's for sure" - It must be hell - Undercover 1983
So, Americans are the "Stupidest People on Earth?"....
that's a nice sweeping, unwarranted blanket statement to throw at 330 million people.
you can have a mulligan....try to be more civil in the future.
Thanks in advance.
I'm starting to think that maybe BV should shut this thread down. Such statements are simply gross.
I didn't write that.
The US is also the home of Trump - that doesn't mean everyone is called trump.
The US is also uniquely, the home of the Bald Eagle - it doesn't make every eagle in the US a Bald eagle.
Being the 'home of'.....doesn't make everyone who lives there stupid.......think logically, please......
Likewise, being the home of the Free and brave doesn't make everyone 'free'.......or brave.
No, you didn't say exactly that....true....
However, "Home of the Free and Brave" is obviously a reference to Americans.
For one, it's a barely-changed line from our National Anthem....plus, the entire discussion leading up to your remark was about events and people in the US.
Moreover, your discussions w/ Hairball make it quite clear what country you are referring to...
Your excuse-making at this juncture is disingenuous...what country exactly were you referring to as "Home of the Stupidest People on Earth?" and "not another country on the planet...."
you were referring to A country, were you not?
You can back-track now if you want, rather than apologize or retract....that's fine. It simply doesn't ring true at all.
if you believe America is "home of the stupidest people on Earth" you're entitled to your opinion...it's an ugly one to express publicly, that's all.
no worries, though. Best wishes.
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Rocky Dijon
Time out. Eddie isn't a hateful person. He's stressed out over a serious situation. People say things or imply things when they're stressed they wouldn't generally voice. Don't take it to heart.
The United States covers so much territory and so many people that generalizations rarely apply. If you respect the president, wonderful for you. If you dislike the president, console yourself that he didn't win the popular vote four years ago. I'm an American. I've never owned a gun. I work in a hospital. Currently I'm working 2nd and 3rd shift meaning lots of hours every day at an inconvenient time.
I understand the protests. Some people (even some IORRians) are barely surviving if at all. My son's stimulus check was $20. That hardly helps. He's stuck at university and can't leave the campus or else he can't get back in. He's hoping he's able to travel across country to get back home next month after his Finals, but we don't know if that will happen. He's fortunate I'm still working. The majority of Americans aren't going to work. I have a niece who filed for unemployment, but still hasn't received a single check because our state is overwhelmed with unemployment applications.
Some of the protesters are loons who think it's time for a civil war. Some of them are bored and spoiled and just want to party again. Many of them are just scared people looking at losing their homes, their car, their savings, facing starvation in some instances (not an exaggeration). Many people are surviving now by putting everything (including food) on their credit cards. When the inflation hits, it will be devastating. Letting the U.S. Government become majority shareholder in the biggest industries in return for bailout money will help, but not enough. This isn't a vacation where things go back to normal. Hospitals are closing. Small businesses have mostly gone bankrupt. We're looking at mass pay-cuts and job reductions as we ease out of this lockdown. It's the only path forward because the house of cards is collapsing.
You think it's bad now, wait until the inner city starts rioting. There won't be enough police or military to control social unrest. What is more, we're already seeing suburbs that no longer have a fire department because COVID-19 breakouts caused the fire station to shut down. When fires start and the local fire department is shuttered, consider the damage and loss including loss of life before responders from the next suburb or two arrive on the scene.
People are demanding to return to work to survive. Most do not understand the hard times that are ahead of them. This isn't an unpaid vacation. It's a game-changer for society. What was normal for so long, a world largely built around luxury because industrialization and technology kept many of us fat and happy is over. That will become apparent in coming months and over-spoilt children will not like hearing that things are tough all over and are about to get harder still. That's when all the smoke and bullets will be in the air when riots and looting and worse crimes begin.
Yes, it's a harsh reality, but that's what will happen in the urban areas. People have, by and large, been remarkably calm and civil. This isn't just cabin fever you're seeing, it's scared people and scared people do dangerous things, especially when armed. Happily, most of the protesters aren't walking around with guns. Remember the media shows the most sensational to get a reaction. That's true of CNN and Fox News. Sensationalism is not about partisan politics. The U.S. is about to pay the price for decades of encouraging us to be a nation divided. It made for great copy. It kept people agitated and voting despite the fact that at the top level, the special interests that run the show didn't care which party was in office. We spent and spent and borrowed and borrowed and now all the debt is about to collapse on itself. That's when the blaming will begin and with the blaming, the need for a scapegoat. This is nothing new, but it will still be unpleasant.
I'll let more reasonable folks have the soapbox now. Thanks for listening.
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MisterDDDD
Home of the Brave, Land of the Free.
The Brave are the frontline workers, essential workers and everyone who's isolating and doing their part so we can all continue to be Free.
These frontline nurses in Arizona, stood in silent protest while the protest was underway.
You might think they would not be harassed, yelled at etc., in that type of counter-protest.
You'd be wrong.
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steffialicia
What more can a government, or any entity do, than to try to protect lives?
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Rocky Dijon
Time out. Eddie isn't a hateful person. He's stressed out over a serious situation. People say things or imply things when they're stressed they wouldn't generally voice. Don't take it to heart.
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daspyknows
If YOU smoke YOU will kill YOU. If you are infected with coronavirus YOU will kill OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE. How is that the same? It is like drunk driving. Are you ok with that too?
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I agree, but I don't go into politics, cause BV won't allow it. The picture he posted says it all though.
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If YOU smoke YOU will kill YOU. If you are infected with coronavirus YOU will kill OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE. How is that the same? It is like drunk driving. Are you ok with that too?
You don't lock a nation of 330 million people down for a virus that by and large is NOT a mortal threat to anyone under 55 with no serious underlying medical conditions. If for whatever reason the virus is a mortal threat to YOU, then YOU may CHOOSE to STAY HOME and STAY SAFE. Let's face the fact that virus prevention has become VASTLY more damaging than the damn virus itself.
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Nate
The cure may be considered more damaging than the virus but take away that cure and then you will really see how deadly this virus can be.
There was simply no other option but to shut down and keep people away from each other otherwise you would have people dying in hospital corridors as they were in Italy or even in the street outside because there is no more room in the hospital.
And today I read that in the state of Georgia USA they are going to open up cinemas and nail salons this Friday because they consider these to be essential business.This is both unbelievably stupid and evil.
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The cure may be considered more damaging than the virus but take away that cure and then you will really see how deadly this virus can be.
There was simply no other option but to shut down and keep people away from each other otherwise you would have people dying in hospital corridors as they were in Italy or even in the street outside because there is no more room in the hospital.
And today I read that in the state of Georgia USA they are going to open up cinemas and nail salons this Friday because they consider these to be essential business.This is both unbelievably stupid and evil.
It's not a may be, the prevention IS more damaging than the virus. The American people went along with this for the sake of "flattening the curve". Ok? Mission accomplished. It's time to reopen the country. Period. We can quibble at state level how that is to be achieved, but we're not gonna stay hiding in our homes afraid of the COVID-19 boogeyman indefinitely. In fact, you'll begin to see THE PEOPLE have decided enough is enough.
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...The American people went along with this for the sake of "flattening the curve". Ok? Mission accomplished. ....