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crholmstrom
Finally got my test result after a week. Came back negative. I still need to be careful because of immune system issues but at least don't have to do full quarantine.
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crholmstrom
Finally got my test result after a week. Came back negative. I still need to be careful because of immune system issues but at least don't have to do full quarantine.
Good news.
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crholmstrom
Finally got my test result after a week. Came back negative. I still need to be careful because of immune system issues but at least don't have to do full quarantine.
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crholmstrom
Finally got my test result after a week. Came back negative. I still need to be careful because of immune system issues but at least don't have to do full quarantine.
Good news.
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bv
Please do NOT post sensational calculations on death rates, based on your own private calculations. I will delete such posts. This is why:
The death rate is calculated by two nombers:
deaths / positives * 100
The number of deaths from the coronavirus is usually accurate, in most parts of the world.
The number of actual positive coronavirus people in a country is not known, except for very few countries. The exception might be Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, and Faroe Islands, places known for a hight degree of testing.
If you only test those who are brought to hospital, like in Italy, needless to say, that is not the right number for calculating the death rate.
Norway are testing a lot more than the average. Yesterday we had tested a total of 73,089, of which 2,916 are positive tests. On the day there were a total of 12 deaths from the virus, which could be calculated into 12 / 2912 * 100 = 0.4% fatality rate. However, there are two sources of error here:
* The real number of positives in Norway is higher, because children, younger people, even people age 40, might not know they are sick. One of the leading ministers in the government was tested, because an assistant had the virus. The minister was positive. He did not know. He thought he had a normal cold.
* The deaths number from the current numbers will not be known until after this is all over, because it takes 3-4 weeks from you get positive until you might die some times.
In short, like WHO said long time ago, the death rate of the coronavirus is 0.5% to 1%. Compared to the annual flu, it is 5-10 times more dangerous, and the big problem is, elderly people have absolutely NO protection, vs the flu, there is a shot, a vaccine.
References:
A doctor in the Faroe Islands was puzzled by a mysterious pattern: Are there two kinds of coronavirus?
Status koronasmitte onsdag 25. mars 2020 (FHI: Official Norway Numbers March 25)
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MisterDDDD
Tough video to watch, but several NYC hospitals are over capacity and under equipped. Already.
"People Are Dying" 72 hours inside a NYC Hospital Battling Coronavirus
video: [nyti.ms]
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calipachangero
The thing about death Rates is, it's basically useless sensationalism, feeding a morbid tendency.
Every country has it's own rules when and who to test. There are supposedly many people infected with no symptoms at all or very few. Those won't show in any statistics, therefore the officially tested number of persons is far from being accurate.
I find it concerning that people with different opinions or a brighter outlook are dubbed as deniers...
Why the need to put a bad label to anything expressing a different point of view?
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MisterDDDD
Trump Wants to ‘Reopen America.’ Here’s What Happens if We Do.
"We created this interactive model with epidemiologists to show why quickly returning to normal could be a historic mistake that would lead to an explosion of infections, hospitalizations and deaths.
Play with this model below by moving the slider to change the length of time that controls are in effect, and you’ll see the impact on lives lost"
[www.nytimes.com]
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stickyfingers101
Misleading headline seeking to blame Trump for "if" scenarios...not surprising, given the source.
Trump says lots of things...doesn't mean anybody has to listen to them.
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MisterDDDD
Trump Wants to ‘Reopen America.’ Here’s What Happens if We Do.
"We created this interactive model with epidemiologists to show why quickly returning to normal could be a historic mistake that would lead to an explosion of infections, hospitalizations and deaths.
Play with this model below by moving the slider to change the length of time that controls are in effect, and you’ll see the impact on lives lost"
[www.nytimes.com]
I'm not saying this predictive model is wrong (nor am I saying it is irrefutably correct)...note that under "Methodology" it states:
Note that this is a model, not the real world; epidemiologists say that in reality the virus without controls would take longer to spread, partly because of growing immunity and partly because people would become much more careful.
However, Trump can't re-open America....for one, he never closed it...for two, that's up to the States.
Misleading headline seeking to blame Trump for "if" scenarios...not surprising, given the source.
Trump says lots of things...doesn't mean anybody has to listen to them.
if Cuomo re-opens NY...that's on him....same w/ every other state/city.
Personally, I don't think we should re-open until we see what happens when it gets warmer (ie. May or June).
...but, we are going to have to re-open eventually and deal w/ what comes.
Hopefully we'll have some herd-immunity and/or a viable vaccine by that point.
ps..I'm no Trumpy.
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stickyfingers101
I read the article YOU (originally) posted, bud.
[www.cnbc.com]
it said nothing about this donation...
in the time it took you to insult me by implicitly calling me "uneducated" you could've just posted the follow-up article and said "he gave $100m according to this article" and skipped the insult...
whatever....
Follow up Comments:
With all Sincerity: $100m is a very nice donation. Thank you, Bill. Good start. Keep it up....exponentially, please.
However, just to put it in perspective:
a) this donation is from his Foundation...not his pocket...there's a difference (though he does fund about 1/2 to 2/3 of the Foundation)
b) Bill Gates is worth around $100 BILLION...which is more than 122 COUNTRIES are worth....it's the GDP of Slovakia
in other words, money is essentially NO object to him...
Perspective: if you spent $1 PER SECOND....it would take you 32 YEARS to spend ONE Billion.
As stated: It's a nice donation...thank you for educating me w/ the follow-up article.
I'm glad he gives...something is always better than nothing....but, it should be taken in perspective.
Simply put, Bill can (and should) do more. Full stop.
good luck to you. I hope you are healthy and safe.
Posted both prior. His foundations work, his philanthropy, and his commitment to giving away the bulk of his wealth before he dies are well known. By most.
Glad you got caught up.. he's been actively funding and working on health issues for twenty years.
More here, in which he essentially predicted this.
[www.mercurynews.com]
"Although he began his career as a computer programmer, Gates, 64, has devoted much of the last 20 years to public health and medicine.
The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, based in Seattle, is run by three trustees: Bill and his wife Melinda Gates, and financier Warren Buffett. Since it was established 20 years ago, the foundation has contributed more than $6 billion to medical research and health care, focusing on treatment and prevention of AIDS, tuberculosis, malaria, measles and other diseases, particularly in Africa and some of the poorest parts of the world.
On Feb. 5, the foundation announced a $100 million donation to fund research and development of drugs and other treatments for COVID-19.
There are people in the world that are never happy. Bill Gates isn't doing enough.
What a load of bullshit that is. And YOU are doing what, exactly? Staying inside?
Athletes, musicians and actors should keep their mouths shut? Perhaps just regular ol' people should, too. Seeing that athletes, musician and actors are people...
I know someone that's denying things about it, and supports an orange mop's denial and lies about it, that is 72 years old and considers it nothing worse than the flu and, really, nothing like the flu at all.
The willful ignorance and arrogance, typical American, of course, blows my mind.
ahh..the old "what are you doing?" message.
Thank you for asking....here's a list:
1) staying inside...yep....which is, of course, one of the most important things one can do....though, I do go to the grocery store for myself and my 90-year-old neighbor who lives alone
2) I gave blood last week....granted that was scheduled months ago.
3) I cashed out a CD about 10 days ago...it was worth 1% of my total net worth and I donated it to Doctors without Borders (Gates' donation is worth 0.01% of his net worth, by comparison...and money means nothing to him...I'm a school teacher...proportionality)
4) I give 5% of my pre-tax salary to charity every year
5) We're adopting a cat...shelters are inundated...so, the local shelter is dropping it off tomorrow (at the end of my driveway, per social-distancing)....to add to our 3 other shelter cats and 3 shelter dogs.
Bill Gates does a lot. Good for him. He can do more. Are you claiming that as false??
Are you fully content w/ what he is doing? If so, that's fine...but, then you must be content w/ the inequities of the world and the fact that one person is worth more than Slovakia...while billions go without.
As stated, he does a lot of good....but he also chooses to keep $100 billion for himself.
If you're cool w/ that, so be it. It's a semi-free country and you're entitled to your position...just as I am.
"Athletes et. al should keep their mouths shut....if they are not giving money"...you forgot the 2nd half of that....try not to intentionally misquote to prove a point.
and...yep, feel free to add "regular people" to that, if you wish...if you aren't doing anything to help, you should shut up...same w/ people that don't vote.
....that goes for grumping about Trump as well, FYI.
Bill Gates can/should do more. Everyone who is capable can/should do more...I'm fully aware that includes me. So, I'll think of something. I'm very, very, very lucky.
I'll keep you posted.
I have no idea if the "ignorant and arrogant" is aimed at me or Trump or some random 72-year-old...or all three, so I'll just let that part lay.
feel free to share your list of things you are doing.
In fact, everybody should....it would give us a sense of hope and great ideas moving forward....things we can all do.
I hope you and yours are healthy and safe.
[donate.doctorswithoutborders.org]
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Elmo Lewis
It's tragic that things that seemed soooo important 2 weeks ago, no longer are.
Definitely made me re-think my priorities.