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Re: The Stones and Brian Jones - Official Trailer | Rolling Stones Documentary | In Theaters November 7
Posted by: snoopy2 ()
Date: November 11, 2023 08:20

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Thanks for the link, just finished it, left me wanting more but enjoyed it (as much as one can enjoy some of the more tragic elements).. He's always been my initial gravitation to the Stones

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones - Official Trailer | Rolling Stones Documentary | In Theaters November 7
Posted by: jp.M ()
Date: November 11, 2023 10:14

...just seen in France ....Thank you very much.!

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones - Official Trailer | Rolling Stones Documentary | In Theaters November 7
Posted by: jackflash27 ()
Date: November 11, 2023 14:04

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Thanks for the link, just finished it, left me wanting more but enjoyed it (as much as one can enjoy some of the more tragic elements).. He's always been my initial gravitation to the Stones

Thanks for the link. Very nice documentary with some unseen material (at least for me). Didn't know the story of Brian's dog, that ate from a space cake and got in a LSD trip from several months. Poor animal.

'The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Posted by: bye bye johnny ()
Date: November 14, 2023 20:59

Documentary Director Nick Broomfield Talks 'The Stones and Brian Jones'

Moviefone speaks with Nick Broomfield about 'The Stones and Brian Jones.' "His leadership was challenged by Mick Jagger and Brian was unable to accept that."

Jami Philbrick
November 14, 2023


Photo courtesy of Magnolia Pictures

[www.moviefone.com]

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones - Official Trailer | Rolling Stones Documentary | In Theaters November 7
Posted by: DGA35 ()
Date: November 14, 2023 21:17

Haven't seen the movie, just read the interview with the director. I wonder if Brian's sister ever saw the band because they did play Cheltenham a couple times in the early years.
Also, to those who saw the movie, what did Eric Burdon have to say?

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones - Official Trailer | Rolling Stones Documentary | In Theaters November 7
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Date: February 3, 2024 12:38

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Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Posted by: Lien ()
Date: February 13, 2024 13:22

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Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: April 28, 2024 05:47

Finally caught it on Paramount streaming in the states. I was much surprised by the quality of it. There has been so many crappy 'rockdocs' on the Stones, with ersatz music and talking heads with people you've never heard of, or care to. This really cut to the bone, and was quite good. I almost felt sorry for Brian because his life was obviously out of control and he seemed powerless to get a grip. And the Anita stuff was fascinating. What a force of nature.

I'm so glad it wasn't a cheesy 'Who Killed The Golden Stone' kind of trip. It was a straight forward documentary. Bill speculated on what killed Brian, downers and alcohol, but no one blamed anyone that couldn't be proven. I can see where Brian was a split personality, loving to raise hell, but hating himself for what he did to other people. (If he was that aware).

I'm hoping the Pallenberg doc will be just as good. I thought it was cute when Bill would play Ruby Tuesday, or Little Red Rooster and point out Brian's parts. We all know them deep in our souls, but Bill seemed innocent, like we might be unaware of the music they made.

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Date: April 28, 2024 05:53

I just have to say this.

The one thing most folks do not understand.

The Rolling Stones would never be what they are today without Brian Jones.

It is a shame he is not recognized for his input to the band.

Look at what we all want to hear as fans........ the music from his era.

The Mick Taylor years were there peak but without Brian those years would not be recognized..

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: April 28, 2024 09:57

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I just have to say this.

The one thing most folks do not understand.

The Rolling Stones would never be what they are today without Brian Jones.

Of course. He was the one who lit the fuse. But he soon flamed out. It's a tragedy. He could have concentrated on his guitar playing and been an integral part of the band to this day. As it is he is in the very foundation of their blues/r&b sound. In the way they look and act. But the young man had deep problems. It almost a cliche to say troubled genius. You'd think after he knocked up one girl, he would have been cautious not to do it again, and again, and again, and again.

You would have had to pull away the booze and drugs to get to the mental problems beneath. You can't blame everything on his daddy. Tissues for your issues, Austin? I think the greatest tragedy is a selfish one. We didn't get enough of his particular genius. Think what he might have done with synthesizers.

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: April 28, 2024 13:02

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georgemcdonnell314
I just have to say this.

The one thing most folks do not understand.

The Rolling Stones would never be what they are today without Brian Jones.

It is a shame he is not recognized for his input to the band.

Look at what we all want to hear as fans........ the music from his era.

The Mick Taylor years were there peak but without Brian those years would not be recognized..

The Stones would have been the exact same juggernaut playing the Jagger/Richards songs in the same stadiums they do today. Wyman leaving changed the band, as did Charlie's passing. Jones and Taylor are mere footnotes in their history.

Mathijs

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: April 28, 2024 19:41

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georgemcdonnell314
I just have to say this.

The one thing most folks do not understand.

The Rolling Stones would never be what they are today without Brian Jones.

It is a shame he is not recognized for his input to the band.

Look at what we all want to hear as fans........ the music from his era.

The Mick Taylor years were there peak but without Brian those years would not be recognized..

The Stones would have been the exact same juggernaut playing the Jagger/Richards songs in the same stadiums they do today. Wyman leaving changed the band, as did Charlie's passing. Jones and Taylor are mere footnotes in their history.

Mathijs

Come On Mathijs .... you know better cool smiley

I'm a GHOST living in a ghost town

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Posted by: Witness ()
Date: May 6, 2024 12:01

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georgemcdonnell314
I just have to say this.

The one thing most folks do not understand.

The Rolling Stones would never be what they are today without Brian Jones.

It is a shame he is not recognized for his input to the band.

Look at what we all want to hear as fans........ the music from his era.

The Mick Taylor years were there peak but without Brian those years would not be recognized..

The Stones would have been the exact same juggernaut playing the Jagger/Richards songs in the same stadiums they do today. Wyman leaving changed the band, as did Charlie's passing. Jones and Taylor are mere footnotes in their history.

Mathijs

Come On Mathijs .... you know better cool smiley

In my understanding the Rolling Stones during their formative years developed a collective musical identity. Without Brian Jones' (and, to some extent, Mick Taylor's) contribution, that collective identity would not have been quite the same. And to those two band members' time in the band belongs most of the greatest achievements of the Stones, Even if much of their greatness comes from the the Jagger and Richards songs, that greatness is created at the basis of their collective identity gradually developed.

(Nice to see you back, georgie48.)

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: May 6, 2024 17:41

Footnotes? Maybe D.Jones, but certainly not B.Jones. B.Jones is part of the very ethos of the Stones. The look, the sound, the attitude. And Mick Taylor will be seen as a crucial part of their golden era on stage. Ron Wood's legacy is still to be sorted out, but it's already known as a person he helped them continue through all the changes at a high level as Keith's abilities declined due to arthritis and falling out of trees.

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: May 6, 2024 20:51

Just caught this doc on a plane recently. Was a bit disappointed, though I guess there's only so much they can do with the footage they have from back then. Actually shocked how MUCH footage there is of Brian with them. Didn't have cameras all over in 1966, so I guess they make the most of it. Interviews and such were a little lacking. Felt like it doesn't paint an overall picture of him, just a lot of conjecture even though its coming from people associated with him at the time.

Didn't quite give him his due as much as I hoped. For example, I don't think it touches on his beautiful slide guitar work on No Expectations. But it did implore me to seek out those pre Aftermath albums for the first time in awhile, and definitely cool to hear about his contributions and then hear the songs themselves. Mick and Keith kinda needed to take over, but Brian is definitely hugely important to their story. The doc does a decent job portraying that, though definitely needs more of a boost to really be great.

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: May 7, 2024 21:03

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RollingFreak
Just caught this doc on a plane recently. Was a bit disappointed, though I guess there's only so much they can do with the footage they have from back then. Actually shocked how MUCH footage there is of Brian with them. Didn't have cameras all over in 1966, so I guess they make the most of it. Interviews and such were a little lacking. Felt like it doesn't paint an overall picture of him, just a lot of conjecture even though its coming from people associated with him at the time.

Didn't quite give him his due as much as I hoped. For example, I don't think it touches on his beautiful slide guitar work on No Expectations. But it did implore me to seek out those pre Aftermath albums for the first time in awhile, and definitely cool to hear about his contributions and then hear the songs themselves. Mick and Keith kinda needed to take over, but Brian is definitely hugely important to their story. The doc does a decent job portraying that, though definitely needs more of a boost to really be great.

Some of the footage, especially as a teenager, was amazing. He must have been traveling in high middle class circles. We didn't have a color movie camera growing up. Didn't have any such thing until the early 90s. I don't think there's any such film on the Beatles before they got famous. (At least I don't remember any.)

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: May 7, 2024 21:31

also very interesting other then the home movies was hearing brian singing

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Posted by: kkhoranstoned ()
Date: May 8, 2024 03:33

I found this very interesting and love bill w. Input..crazy 60 s

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Posted by: TIRED ()
Date: September 15, 2024 22:07

The film will be shown in Vienna on Nov 19th, 2024

Filmcasino Vienna, Austria

Re: The Stones and Brian Jones' - Rolling Stones Documentary
Date: September 15, 2024 22:24

Brian's German was good.




Brian's son "Timmy Faithless"? Does anyone know anything about this?
Posted by: Glimmerest ()
Date: January 26, 2025 21:20

"Model Who Practices Devil Worship Claims Dead Rock Star Brian Jones Is The Father Of Her Child"

In 1969, Rolling Stones lead guitarist Brian Jones was found dead in his swimming pool, possibly from a drug overdose.
Now 25-year-old model Lori-ann Faithless is claiming Jones made love to her one night after a party in an Australian hotel.
The result of that solitary union, she says, is her son Timmy.
"My girlfriend and I went to one of the Stones' concerts in Melbourne, and were given passes to go backstage.
"The Stones invited us to a hotel for a party. We were ushered into taxis and went up to the third floor of this hotel.
"I was very drunk, but I remember this little blond fellow coming up to me. He turned out to be Brian Jones. He'd been very quiet at first, but, once he got drunk, he became very friendly."
Loriann asked Jones what it was like to be famous, but Jones wasn't in the mood for talking about fame.
He had something else on his mind. He suggested they have "some fun."
"When Timmy was born, there was no mistaking who the father was," Loriann insisted. "With his blond hair and blue eyes, he was the image of Brian."
Loriann is a part-time model-but her true interests lie in the occult. She practices black magic and devil worship, and swears she is a black witch.
She and Timmy live in an apart- ment in Melbourne that doubles as a temple for worshipping the devil. The living room is stacked with altars to Satan and miscellaneous witchcraft equipment.



Does anyone know what magazine this was from? Or anything about it?

Re: Brian's son "Timmy Faithless"? Does anyone know anything about this?
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: January 27, 2025 08:35

Looks familiar, I think I saw this article in David Dalton’s book (which I no longer have). The book has a list of sources in the back IIRC.

Re: Brian's son "Timmy Faithless"? Does anyone know anything about this?
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: January 27, 2025 13:11

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Koen
Looks familiar, I think I saw this article in David Dalton’s book (which I no longer have). The book has a list of sources in the back IIRC.

I have three books by Dalton, inevitably this was in the last one I checked.

"The Rolling Stones : The First Twenty Years" by David Dalton, Thames & Hudson, London, 1981.

It's on Page 148.

However, none of the three Dalton books I have have anything like a list of sources - although there are sketchy discographies.

Perhaps reprints, or versions of the same book published elsewhere, or elsewhen may have more information.

Captain Corella

Re: Brian's son "Timmy Faithless"? Does anyone know anything about this?
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: January 27, 2025 15:45

Ok, thanks for confirming I had the author right. Didn’t know he wrote two more.

And I could well be mistaken about the list of sources.

Re: Brian's son "Timmy Faithless"? Does anyone know anything about this?
Posted by: Glimmerest ()
Date: January 27, 2025 18:08

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Koen
Looks familiar, I think I saw this article in David Dalton’s book (which I no longer have). The book has a list of sources in the back IIRC.

Thank you!

Wow my post got incorporated into this thread. I've never seen that before!

Re: Brian's son "Timmy Faithless"? Does anyone know anything about this?
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: January 28, 2025 01:06

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Koen
Ok, thanks for confirming I had the author right. Didn’t know he wrote two more.

And I could well be mistaken about the list of sources.

Further examination of the book reveals that the article in question was in a section of the book called 'Midnite Rambler' and that that section was 'Compiled' by someone called Coco Pekelis.

If Glimmerest tracks her down they will be one step nearer finding the source.

IMDB tells me "Coco Pekelis. Actress: Quarry. Coco Pekelis is known for Quarry (1978). She was previously married to David Dalton." And she's also (unsurprisingly) known as Coco Dalton. If Glimmerest is happy to sell their soul to Zuckerberg and his running dogs, then the next step is simple.

Captain Corella

Re: Brian Jones talks
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: January 28, 2025 01:29

Loriann Faithless
Marianne Faithfull



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Re: Brian Jones talks
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: January 28, 2025 03:14

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Rockman
Loriann Faithless
Marianne Faithfull

So, Marianne is Timmy's mum? Rather unlikely.

More likely (IMHO) is that the entire article is invented and that Coco Pekelis/Dalton was taken in by it?

Captain Corella

Re: Brian Jones talks
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: January 28, 2025 04:08

the entire article is invented

Yep most likely ....



ROCKMAN

Re: Brian Jones talks
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: January 28, 2025 04:30

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Rockman
the entire article is invented

Yep most likely ....

This may come as a shock to some folk, but it's not unknown for newspapers to totally invent stuff.

Here's a 100% accurate example that is Stones related.

In April 2022 the (UK) Daily Mail published a long article about how Bill Wyman had snuck off to a holiday at his place in the South Of France for a sneaky holiday (remember, COVID was still lurking generally) and that he'd taken one of his daughters with him. And they 'had' (sic) photo's to prove it.

It was entirely invented. Bill Wyman spent the entire COVID time, and more, at his country residence in Suffolk, he'd definitely not gone to France since well before COVID, and the photo that was used was from about 5 years prior when the daughter had been in France. A total invention of an article.

Edit. Here's the article I mention [www.dailymail.co.uk] At the time Bill Wyman was in the UK.

Captain Corella



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-01-28 04:45 by CaptainCorella.

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