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DandelionPowderman
Interesting that the director of A Degree of Murder said that Keith saved the sessions, and that Brian was out of it. I didn't know that.
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24FPS
After hearing the ersatz 'Stonesish' music, is there any doubt this is another cheap ass, exploitation film? Stock footage and all?
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24FPS
After hearing the ersatz 'Stonesish' music, is there any doubt this is another cheap ass, exploitation film? Stock footage and all?
It wasn't that bad, actually. However, that music was annoying.
They managed to sneak in a cover of I Ain't Signifying, though
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Rocky Dijon
I'm curious about Sam Cutler's contributions. Stash may be entertaining, but that depends on one's tolerance for a dilettante tambourine player with delusions of grandeur.
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24FPS
After hearing the ersatz 'Stonesish' music, is there any doubt this is another cheap ass, exploitation film? Stock footage and all?
It wasn't that bad, actually. However, that music was annoying.
They managed to sneak in a cover of I Ain't Signifying, though
I just won't watch 'documentaries' of talking heads I don't care about, whose opinions aren't any more valid than all of us on here. I don't give two cents what anyone from The Old Grey Whistle Test thinks, no matter how low key their delivery. How was it factually? They usually get some real stinkers in there. And no Brian wasn't the face of the Rolling Stones. Mick has always been the focus. Watch any older footage and you barely see the rest of the band. Brian was great, but his importance, after the first couple years of the group, is way over inflated.
I think you mean Gothenburg 2007. and I was with Ove backstage and I have a different view of what we saw. However the media picked up on the story, but it was all BS as far as I´m concerned.Quote
DandelionPowderman
Went with RobberBride yesterday. The film was not as bad as expected. Sam Cutler and Stash are rather interesting characters, to put it mildly.
Interesting that the director of A Degree of Murder said that Keith saved the sessions, and that Brian was out of it. I didn't know that.
The conspiracy theories were coming in from all sides, eventually
The music was disturbing. Garcia might had been better off using some totally different kind of music all the way through (and lower!), like he did in the beginning. There was a cover of I Ain't Signifying in there, though.
Had a nice talk with Swedish Stones legend Ove Tingvall after he did a Q&A after the screening. He shared stories about his time with the band in 1965-67 + the 2007-incident in Stockholm.
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mickijaggerooI think you mean Gothenburg 2007. and I was with Ove backstage and I have a different view of what we saw. However the media picked up on the story, but it was all BS as far as I´m concerned.Quote
DandelionPowderman
Went with RobberBride yesterday. The film was not as bad as expected. Sam Cutler and Stash are rather interesting characters, to put it mildly.
Interesting that the director of A Degree of Murder said that Keith saved the sessions, and that Brian was out of it. I didn't know that.
The conspiracy theories were coming in from all sides, eventually
The music was disturbing. Garcia might had been better off using some totally different kind of music all the way through (and lower!), like he did in the beginning. There was a cover of I Ain't Signifying in there, though.
Had a nice talk with Swedish Stones legend Ove Tingvall after he did a Q&A after the screening. He shared stories about his time with the band in 1965-67 + the 2007-incident in Stockholm.
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His Majesty
50+ years since Brian died. The detailed truth faded long ago.
Good or bad. Their memories are for sure influenced by ravages of time, what and how things are asked, their many re-tellings, what they have read, heard etc etc. Some of the talking heads knew or met Brian briefly, in Sam's case I wonder if he ever even met him. Volkers 'memories' have gotten more extreme with each passing decade.
Recalling the same thing over and over through time also adds a solidity and permanence to things that were fleeting and gone before they had even been taken in. Then there's the thing of perception etc.
The general bigger story is well known and very over trodden, any new details are dubious and open to all of the above and more influencing them.
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His Majesty
50+ years since Brian died. The detailed truth faded long ago.
Good or bad. Their memories are for sure influenced by ravages of time, what and how things are asked, their many re-tellings, what they have read, heard etc etc. Some of the talking heads knew or met Brian briefly, in Sam's case I wonder if he ever even met him. Volkers 'memories' have gotten more extreme with each passing decade.
Recalling the same thing over and over through time also adds a solidity and permanence to things that were fleeting and gone before they had even been taken in. Then there's the thing of perception etc.
The general bigger story is well known and very over trodden, any new details are dubious and open to all of the above and more influencing them.
Agree. Anyone who really knew Brian is either not around, or has told their tale many times over. There s no way anyone of any importance at all could somehow have been overlooked for 51 years. The only real impact IMO would come if someone like F Thorogood, one of the people that was there on last night, emerged with a clear, objective POV. But, impossible.
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Rocky Dijon
... Using the same logic, why write another word about The Stones or Mick or Keith? It's all been said ...
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paulspendel
I know of two builders still alive who can tell the correct story, one located near Chichester and the other one in London, two brothers. The problem is the majority of the Cotchford builders were related to each other. They will never talk. They know me and I know them. We stare at each other and there is legally no way.
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Rocky Dijon
I was being sarcastic to an extent. I understand others feeling there are no more Brian conspiracies to consider or stories to tell, but to not discuss Brian is to pretend he didn't matter. Brian's death is a bit like JFK. It either went down as the official story says or it's on a larger scale and you'd be foolish to get too close to questioning the truth. I would rather discuss Brian's role in the band and his contribution to recordings and place in their development. I'm cynical about people like Stash though I understand he's a colorful character and entertaining.
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Rocky Dijon
Brian's death irks people, perhaps Brian himself does. Using the same logic, why write another word about The Stones or Mick or Keith? It's all been said. Why bother making new music? They've accomplished everything they could. Anything left is just an addendum. Why bother playing a Stones record ever again? We've heard them all so many times. There is nothing new to hear.
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paulspendel
I know of two builders still alive who can tell the correct story, one located near Chichester and the other one in London, two brothers. The problem is the majority of the Cotchford builders were related to each other. They will never talk. They know me and I know them. We stare at each other and there is legally no way.
I feel like you're leaving us hanging LOL.
I want that last sentence to keep going.