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ovalvox
First of all no cares about who you bedded. Why you have to add this has very little to do or add to the conversation. Let me just add some of Brian’s “small percentage” that you claim. He played guitar, harmonica or both on just about every track of the first three albums (British). How is that a small percentage? Some of those songs he shined on and dominated. To many to list here but I will add a few. Slide guitar Little Red Rooster. Tremolo guitar Mona. Lead guitar The Last Time. Brian completely dominates that song with his guitar part that he wrote. Harmonica Now I’ve Got a Witness. Then we get to Aftermath. Sparse? Even Oldham praised Brian Jones for his sparse contributions. Take Brian off of Aftermath and you might as well toss the album in the trash. Even on Beggars Banquet he played more than people think. His mellotron playing was astounding. Sparse might be your opinion but that certainly goes against what people really know or think. Brian stills gets knifed in the back to this very day. No Jones no Stones. How is that for a “footnote?”
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Rockman
Did that Japanese girls name start with Y …… ??????????????
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Doxa
...so who really cares...
- Doxa
I care!
I started a little musical companion book recently, what he played, how he played it etc... slowly working on it, bit by bit.
But, there are times, like now, when I feel like I have just wasted years of my life on this stuff and that it's pointless trying to even get Brian's own fans to see what he actually did as a musician as opposed to what they want to believe he did.
The detractors will always want him to be seen as a nothing loser figure. Quite sad that many of his own fans would rather he forever be the victim.
All his personal stuff is really rather meaningless to anyone outside of those directly affected. It's the music that matters. But even that seems to be meaningless too, or atleast so easily put aside for some drink, drugs, violence, and death speak.
During some 'debate' about what Brian played someone recently told me to "shut the @#$%& up!".
Sound advice.
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Swayed1967
... if you zoom out you’ll see that he is indeed a footnote.
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Swayed1967
... he hasn’t played on any Stones record since 1970.
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Swayed1967
I like those songs very much. Brian made some sublime contributions.
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Silver Dagger
Phil - I'd love to see that book when you've finished. One question - how can you ever be sure of exact passages that Brian played? I mean his and keith's styles are different with Keith generally the more frenetic player and Brian playing the more measured solos. But there was weaving in the early years, especially when they were playing those r'n'b covers.
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His Majesty
but this doesn't relegate Brian to being a footnote.
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Swayed1967
Nope, you're wrong.
Brian was expendable. The Stones went on to make better music without him.
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Swayed1967
Nope, you're wrong.
Brian was expendable. The Stones went on to make better music without him.Expendable people are lucky to be footnotes.
You're ignorant. Everyone is expendable. No they didn't.
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Swayed1967
Oh they didn’t? Ok, I finally realize the depth of your fanaticism (and feel foolish for not realizing it sooner). Best of luck with your little book.
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His Majesty
I realised the depth of your ignorance early on.
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Swayed1967
Of course you did. But then the fanatic always dismisses opinions that differ from his own as ignorant.
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paulspendel
Just a message of support for His Majesty. I think the little musical companion book is a truly great initiative. I play in a cover band myself. If you look for instance at the lick Brian played on the Last Time: many guitarists play it in a stripped down blues version, it sounds okay but isn't the real thing. But if you look at the real notes Brian came up with, it's such a gem. I say to Phil: battle on!
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shortfatfanny
*footnote : 7/19 songs from 50 years+ ago when Brian was a full member...
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His Majesty
10 of those were recorded, minus a few overdubs, while he was still a member.
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His Majesty
He is not on 3 of the officially released versions of the songs recorded whilst he was still a member.
YCAGWYW
HTW
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paulspendel
My God, how can you call this mediocre is beyond me, the haunting melletron, the perfect pitch on the slide which is incredible hard to maintain, and all this coming from the same person.