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keefriff99Aerosmith has kept their classic lineup intact for their career much longer than most bands, Stones included.Quote
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Early on Tyler and Perry had a lot more problems keeping the band intact then jagger/Richards.Didn,t they have a lot of lineup changes early on not a huge fan of Aerosmith,Despite the Tyler's troubles, including an incapacitating motorcycle accident in January 1981,Jimmy Crespo and Tyler forged a songwriting and touring partnership. Crespo co-wrote six of the songs on Aerosmith's 1982 album Rock in a Hard Place with Tyler. Crespo performed most guitar duties on the album. Then Rick Dufay joined on I think after 1982 to replace Whitford. Also some of the guitar work on the early records was done by othero musicians and not Perry from what I can remember.
Perry quit before Rock In A Hard Place. Eventually, Whitford did, too. Crespo and Dufay both played on that album, if memory serves. And they did tours as well.
Session guys allegedly played some stuff on Train Kept A Rolling. Haven't heard about other songs?
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Attacking Aerosmith for trading out members during a brief period in the '80s is a peculiar line of attack for a Stones fan, of all people, to make.
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And asked if he saw bands coming through to replace Aerosmith as stadium fillers and festival headliners, Kramer responds: “I don’t. When the bands that are around now are finished I think it will be the end of a very long era. I’m talking about bands like us, AC/DC and Van Halen.”
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hopkins
I hadn't heard that rumor Dandy but it might be true about 'train'?
Joe's got showcase oomph and some earnest tough strokes and runs for certain,
but I've always felt that Whitford was the guy with good 'studio' chops,
to my def non-studio pro level ears anyway. Brad seems to have the steadiness
and propulsive chops with exactitude that lets the other stuff kinda flash up front...where the stars roam the big spaces dramatically lit....
....i think that's probably true for their studio work too.
tho diff instruments of course, and again it's weird to compare ye Olde Gods
with our yank snotties...but maybe Whitford is the largely unheraled 'Wyman-Perks' of their group...it's a mighty good track even if they hired help tho; that producer was really key; he really, really had a handle on what he had and where he could take those guys sonically imo....as far as Joey goes; i mean, he does not belong in a coversation about Mr. Watts. He's stiffer than laundry on the line with that big detergent smell don't get me started. nobody ever accused Joey of having too much loose magical swing to his stomp. I'd rather see The Stones suck than a good Aero show and I really do have massive respect and affection for a huge chunk of their career; those first ten years; i mean most bands don't get that HIT and have a career span a fraction of what Aero put together; they were kinda cheap from the gitgo in some ways; that awful Sgt. Pepper movie; they were good fake Beatles too haha; i love the old bastureds don't get me wrong; except for jOEY; I was giving him a lot of points because he was real sick and got better; and also he seems to have a tic that makesa him vulnerable; or a serial killer; it's sort of hard to tell; did he sway those things about Charlie; hahahaa; that's great.....another pisseed off fan; he probably thiniing; 'hah we had jack douglas and they have whats his name...' who knows, right? shut up joey
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keefriff99Aerosmith has kept their classic lineup intact for their career much longer than most bands, Stones included.Quote
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Early on Tyler and Perry had a lot more problems keeping the band intact then jagger/Richards.Didn,t they have a lot of lineup changes early on not a huge fan of Aerosmith,Despite the Tyler's troubles, including an incapacitating motorcycle accident in January 1981,Jimmy Crespo and Tyler forged a songwriting and touring partnership. Crespo co-wrote six of the songs on Aerosmith's 1982 album Rock in a Hard Place with Tyler. Crespo performed most guitar duties on the album. Then Rick Dufay joined on I think after 1982 to replace Whitford. Also some of the guitar work on the early records was done by othero musicians and not Perry from what I can remember.
Perry quit before Rock In A Hard Place. Eventually, Whitford did, too. Crespo and Dufay both played on that album, if memory serves. And they did tours as well.
Session guys allegedly played some stuff on Train Kept A Rolling. Haven't heard about other songs?
[en.wikipedia.org]
Attacking Aerosmith for trading out members during a brief period in the '80s is a peculiar line of attack for a Stones fan, of all people, to make.
It was a very brief period indeed, and please don't count me as one of the attackers
Yes, and they're REALLY good. I actually didn't know the albums had Dufay and Crespo on some of the tracks originally.Quote
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hopkins
I hadn't heard that rumor Dandy but it might be true about 'train'?
Joe's got showcase oomph and some earnest tough strokes and runs for certain,
but I've always felt that Whitford was the guy with good 'studio' chops,
to my def non-studio pro level ears anyway. Brad seems to have the steadiness
and propulsive chops with exactitude that lets the other stuff kinda flash up front...where the stars roam the big spaces dramatically lit....
....i think that's probably true for their studio work too.
tho diff instruments of course, and again it's weird to compare ye Olde Gods
with our yank snotties...but maybe Whitford is the largely unheraled 'Wyman-Perks' of their group...it's a mighty good track even if they hired help tho; that producer was really key; he really, really had a handle on what he had and where he could take those guys sonically imo....as far as Joey goes; i mean, he does not belong in a coversation about Mr. Watts. He's stiffer than laundry on the line with that big detergent smell don't get me started. nobody ever accused Joey of having too much loose magical swing to his stomp. I'd rather see The Stones suck than a good Aero show and I really do have massive respect and affection for a huge chunk of their career; those first ten years; i mean most bands don't get that HIT and have a career span a fraction of what Aero put together; they were kinda cheap from the gitgo in some ways; that awful Sgt. Pepper movie; they were good fake Beatles too haha; i love the old bastureds don't get me wrong; except for jOEY; I was giving him a lot of points because he was real sick and got better; and also he seems to have a tic that makesa him vulnerable; or a serial killer; it's sort of hard to tell; did he sway those things about Charlie; hahahaa; that's great.....another pisseed off fan; he probably thiniing; 'hah we had jack douglas and they have whats his name...' who knows, right? shut up joey
Steve Hunter and Dick Wagner supposedly did the solos on Train Kept A Rolling.
If memory serves there are live stuff with both Crespo and Dufay on the red and blue live albums (Live Classics?) by Aerosmith (might be on just one of them).
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So where was the guy with the better voice than Jagger?
I didn’t hear it, I was told there was a guy on this video that for a “fact”had a better voice than Jagger,maybe it was a different Steven Tyler cause that vocal wasn’t even as good as some Stones cover bands.
This what happens when people watch too much television,after enough American idol type game show singing competitions they confuse vocal range with singing.
Mariah Carey has more range than Aretha but I doubt anyone would try and compare them.
Singing is sbout delivery,inflection,and conveying a feeling or emotion which is why no one is dumb enough to compare an Aerosmith ballad to Angie,Beast of Burden,or Paint it black and say its a “fact” that Aerosmith has a better singer.that is just a special kinda stupid.
you could not be more wrong. They BROKE UP for God's sake.Explain to me how that applies to "intact". GeezQuote
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Early on Tyler and Perry had a lot more problems keeping the band intact then jagger/Richards.Didn,t they have a lot of lineup changes early on not a huge fan of Aerosmith,Despite the Tyler's troubles, including an incapacitating motorcycle accident in January 1981,Jimmy Crespo and Tyler forged a songwriting and touring partnership. Crespo co-wrote six of the songs on Aerosmith's 1982 album Rock in a Hard Place with Tyler. Crespo performed most guitar duties on the album. Then Rick Dufay joined on I think after 1982 to replace Whitford. Also some of the guitar work on the early records was done by othero musicians and not Perry from what I can remember.
Perry quit before Rock In A Hard Place. Eventually, Whitford did, too. Crespo and Dufay both played on that album, if memory serves. And they did tours as well.
Session guys allegedly played some stuff on Train Kept A Rolling. Haven't heard about other songs?
[en.wikipedia.org]
Attacking Aerosmith for trading out members during a brief period in the '80s is a peculiar line of attack for a Stones fan, of all people, to make.
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potus43you could not be more wrong. They BROKE UP for God's sake.Explain to me how that applies to "intact". GeezQuote
keefriff99Aerosmith has kept their classic lineup intact for their career much longer than most bands, Stones included.Quote
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Early on Tyler and Perry had a lot more problems keeping the band intact then jagger/Richards.Didn,t they have a lot of lineup changes early on not a huge fan of Aerosmith,Despite the Tyler's troubles, including an incapacitating motorcycle accident in January 1981,Jimmy Crespo and Tyler forged a songwriting and touring partnership. Crespo co-wrote six of the songs on Aerosmith's 1982 album Rock in a Hard Place with Tyler. Crespo performed most guitar duties on the album. Then Rick Dufay joined on I think after 1982 to replace Whitford. Also some of the guitar work on the early records was done by othero musicians and not Perry from what I can remember.
Perry quit before Rock In A Hard Place. Eventually, Whitford did, too. Crespo and Dufay both played on that album, if memory serves. And they did tours as well.
Session guys allegedly played some stuff on Train Kept A Rolling. Haven't heard about other songs?
[en.wikipedia.org]
Attacking Aerosmith for trading out members during a brief period in the '80s is a peculiar line of attack for a Stones fan, of all people, to make.
Correct...look at the Wiki timeline...there's no gap indicating an official breakup, just like the Stones never "broke up" between Dirty Work and Steel Wheels, although it's definitely a fuzzy period.Quote
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potus43you could not be more wrong. They BROKE UP for God's sake.Explain to me how that applies to "intact". GeezQuote
keefriff99Aerosmith has kept their classic lineup intact for their career much longer than most bands, Stones included.Quote
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Early on Tyler and Perry had a lot more problems keeping the band intact then jagger/Richards.Didn,t they have a lot of lineup changes early on not a huge fan of Aerosmith,Despite the Tyler's troubles, including an incapacitating motorcycle accident in January 1981,Jimmy Crespo and Tyler forged a songwriting and touring partnership. Crespo co-wrote six of the songs on Aerosmith's 1982 album Rock in a Hard Place with Tyler. Crespo performed most guitar duties on the album. Then Rick Dufay joined on I think after 1982 to replace Whitford. Also some of the guitar work on the early records was done by othero musicians and not Perry from what I can remember.
Perry quit before Rock In A Hard Place. Eventually, Whitford did, too. Crespo and Dufay both played on that album, if memory serves. And they did tours as well.
Session guys allegedly played some stuff on Train Kept A Rolling. Haven't heard about other songs?
[en.wikipedia.org]
Attacking Aerosmith for trading out members during a brief period in the '80s is a peculiar line of attack for a Stones fan, of all people, to make.
aerosmith never broke up that i know of
Keith has certainly expressed some nasty and hard-nosed opinions about his contemporaries, but he's never been as rudely dismissive as Joey is here.Quote
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Keith is cool.
If he doesn't dig a band, he'll say something like "it's not my thing" but I doubt he would say a player's technical proficiency stinks.
Either way, I still think Aerosmith is a good band.
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Keith has certainly expressed some nasty and hard-nosed opinions about his contemporaries, but he's never been as rudely dismissive as Joey is here.
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Keith has certainly expressed some nasty and hard-nosed opinions about his contemporaries, but he's never been as rudely dismissive as Joey is here.
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Keith has certainly expressed some nasty and hard-nosed opinions about his contemporaries, but he's never been as rudely dismissive as Joey is here.
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Keith has certainly expressed some nasty and hard-nosed opinions about his contemporaries, but he's never been as rudely dismissive as Joey is here.
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Lots of biting stuff in there, from both Keith and Mick!
"Oh God, Aerosmith! They're just rubbish - absolute bullshit. The singer (Steve Tyler) is quite a nice guy, mind you. He's almost too bloody sweet. He's very kind to me, anyway (smirk).
Yeah, you know what I mean. He's such a little sweetheart, really - what can you do with him? Punch 'im in the mouth? Here, what are you playing at, @#$%&' impersonating me? - Slam! (Laughs)" - Mick Jagger, 1977
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potus43you could not be more wrong. They BROKE UP for God's sake.Explain to me how that applies to "intact". GeezQuote
keefriff99Aerosmith has kept their classic lineup intact for their career much longer than most bands, Stones included.Quote
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Early on Tyler and Perry had a lot more problems keeping the band intact then jagger/Richards.Didn,t they have a lot of lineup changes early on not a huge fan of Aerosmith,Despite the Tyler's troubles, including an incapacitating motorcycle accident in January 1981,Jimmy Crespo and Tyler forged a songwriting and touring partnership. Crespo co-wrote six of the songs on Aerosmith's 1982 album Rock in a Hard Place with Tyler. Crespo performed most guitar duties on the album. Then Rick Dufay joined on I think after 1982 to replace Whitford. Also some of the guitar work on the early records was done by othero musicians and not Perry from what I can remember.
Perry quit before Rock In A Hard Place. Eventually, Whitford did, too. Crespo and Dufay both played on that album, if memory serves. And they did tours as well.
Session guys allegedly played some stuff on Train Kept A Rolling. Haven't heard about other songs?
[en.wikipedia.org]
Attacking Aerosmith for trading out members during a brief period in the '80s is a peculiar line of attack for a Stones fan, of all people, to make.
aerosmith never broke up that i know of
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And asked if he saw bands coming through to replace Aerosmith as stadium fillers and festival headliners, Kramer responds: “I don’t. When the bands that are around now are finished I think it will be the end of a very long era. I’m talking about bands like us, AC/DC and Van Halen.”
He doesn't mention The Stones? Seriously?
The guy (Kramer or whatever his name is) is so jealous that The Stones cast such a huge shadow over his band.
It's known as jealousy dude and so plain to see.
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Never liked his voice and to me they are extremley overrated. Masters of Bon Jovi and Bryan Adams ballads....for those who likes that.
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potus43you could not be more wrong. They BROKE UP for God's sake.Explain to me how that applies to "intact". GeezQuote
keefriff99Aerosmith has kept their classic lineup intact for their career much longer than most bands, Stones included.Quote
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Early on Tyler and Perry had a lot more problems keeping the band intact then jagger/Richards.Didn,t they have a lot of lineup changes early on not a huge fan of Aerosmith,Despite the Tyler's troubles, including an incapacitating motorcycle accident in January 1981,Jimmy Crespo and Tyler forged a songwriting and touring partnership. Crespo co-wrote six of the songs on Aerosmith's 1982 album Rock in a Hard Place with Tyler. Crespo performed most guitar duties on the album. Then Rick Dufay joined on I think after 1982 to replace Whitford. Also some of the guitar work on the early records was done by othero musicians and not Perry from what I can remember.
Perry quit before Rock In A Hard Place. Eventually, Whitford did, too. Crespo and Dufay both played on that album, if memory serves. And they did tours as well.
Session guys allegedly played some stuff on Train Kept A Rolling. Haven't heard about other songs?
[en.wikipedia.org]
Attacking Aerosmith for trading out members during a brief period in the '80s is a peculiar line of attack for a Stones fan, of all people, to make.
aerosmith never broke up that i know of
Aerosmith never broke up.
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potus43you could not be more wrong. They BROKE UP for God's sake.Explain to me how that applies to "intact". GeezQuote
keefriff99Aerosmith has kept their classic lineup intact for their career much longer than most bands, Stones included.Quote
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Early on Tyler and Perry had a lot more problems keeping the band intact then jagger/Richards.Didn,t they have a lot of lineup changes early on not a huge fan of Aerosmith,Despite the Tyler's troubles, including an incapacitating motorcycle accident in January 1981,Jimmy Crespo and Tyler forged a songwriting and touring partnership. Crespo co-wrote six of the songs on Aerosmith's 1982 album Rock in a Hard Place with Tyler. Crespo performed most guitar duties on the album. Then Rick Dufay joined on I think after 1982 to replace Whitford. Also some of the guitar work on the early records was done by othero musicians and not Perry from what I can remember.
Perry quit before Rock In A Hard Place. Eventually, Whitford did, too. Crespo and Dufay both played on that album, if memory serves. And they did tours as well.
Session guys allegedly played some stuff on Train Kept A Rolling. Haven't heard about other songs?
[en.wikipedia.org]
Attacking Aerosmith for trading out members during a brief period in the '80s is a peculiar line of attack for a Stones fan, of all people, to make.
aerosmith never broke up that i know of
Aerosmith never broke up.
Yup, they did. Wiki is the LAST thing one should look to for reliability
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potus43you could not be more wrong. They BROKE UP for God's sake.Explain to me how that applies to "intact". GeezQuote
keefriff99Aerosmith has kept their classic lineup intact for their career much longer than most bands, Stones included.Quote
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Early on Tyler and Perry had a lot more problems keeping the band intact then jagger/Richards.Didn,t they have a lot of lineup changes early on not a huge fan of Aerosmith,Despite the Tyler's troubles, including an incapacitating motorcycle accident in January 1981,Jimmy Crespo and Tyler forged a songwriting and touring partnership. Crespo co-wrote six of the songs on Aerosmith's 1982 album Rock in a Hard Place with Tyler. Crespo performed most guitar duties on the album. Then Rick Dufay joined on I think after 1982 to replace Whitford. Also some of the guitar work on the early records was done by othero musicians and not Perry from what I can remember.
Perry quit before Rock In A Hard Place. Eventually, Whitford did, too. Crespo and Dufay both played on that album, if memory serves. And they did tours as well.
Session guys allegedly played some stuff on Train Kept A Rolling. Haven't heard about other songs?
[en.wikipedia.org]
Attacking Aerosmith for trading out members during a brief period in the '80s is a peculiar line of attack for a Stones fan, of all people, to make.
aerosmith never broke up that i know of
Aerosmith never broke up.
Yup, they did. Wiki is the LAST thing one should look to for reliability