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I hadn't heard that rumor Dandy but it might be true about 'train'?
Joe's got showcase oomph and some earnest tough strokes and runs for certain,
but I've always felt that Whitford was the guy with good 'studio' chops,
to my def non-studio pro level ears anyway. Brad seems to have the steadiness
and propulsive chops with exactitude that lets the other stuff kinda flash up front...where the stars roam the big spaces dramatically lit....
....i think that's probably true for their studio work too.
tho diff instruments of course, and again it's weird to compare ye Olde Gods
with our yank snotties...but maybe Whitford is the largely unheraled 'Wyman-Perks' of their group...it's a mighty good track even if they hired help tho; that producer was really key; he really, really had a handle on what he had and where he could take those guys sonically imo....as far as Joey goes; i mean, he does not belong in a coversation about Mr. Watts. He's stiffer than laundry on the line with that big detergent smell don't get me started. nobody ever accused Joey of having too much loose magical swing to his stomp. I'd rather see The Stones suck than a good Aero show and I really do have massive respect and affection for a huge chunk of their career; those first ten years; i mean most bands don't get that HIT and have a career span a fraction of what Aero put together; they were kinda cheap from the gitgo in some ways; that awful Sgt. Pepper movie; they were good fake Beatles too haha; i love the old bastureds don't get me wrong; except for jOEY; I was giving him a lot of points because he was real sick and got better; and also he seems to have a tic that makesa him vulnerable; or a serial killer; it's sort of hard to tell; did he sway those things about Charlie; hahahaa; that's great.....another pisseed off fan; he probably thiniing; 'hah we had jack douglas and they have whats his name...' who knows, right? shut up joey

Steve Hunter and Dick Wagner supposedly did the solos on Train Kept A Rolling.

If memory serves there are live stuff with both Crespo and Dufay on the red and blue live albums (Live Classics?) by Aerosmith (might be on just one of them).

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Early on Tyler and Perry had a lot more problems keeping the band intact then jagger/Richards.Didn,t they have a lot of lineup changes early on not a huge fan of Aerosmith,Despite the Tyler's troubles, including an incapacitating motorcycle accident in January 1981,Jimmy Crespo and Tyler forged a songwriting and touring partnership. Crespo co-wrote six of the songs on Aerosmith's 1982 album Rock in a Hard Place with Tyler. Crespo performed most guitar duties on the album. Then Rick Dufay joined on I think after 1982 to replace Whitford. Also some of the guitar work on the early records was done by othero musicians and not Perry from what I can remember.

Perry quit before Rock In A Hard Place. Eventually, Whitford did, too. Crespo and Dufay both played on that album, if memory serves. And they did tours as well.

Session guys allegedly played some stuff on Train Kept A Rolling. Haven't heard about other songs?

Aerosmith has kept their classic lineup intact for their career much longer than most bands, Stones included.

[en.wikipedia.org]

Attacking Aerosmith for trading out members during a brief period in the '80s is a peculiar line of attack for a Stones fan, of all people, to make.

you could not be more wrong. They BROKE UP for God's sake.Explain to me how that applies to "intact". Geez

aerosmith never broke up that i know of

Aerosmith never broke up.

Yup, they did. Wiki is the LAST thing one should look to for reliability

just give us the years they broke up then

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Early on Tyler and Perry had a lot more problems keeping the band intact then jagger/Richards.Didn,t they have a lot of lineup changes early on not a huge fan of Aerosmith,Despite the Tyler's troubles, including an incapacitating motorcycle accident in January 1981,Jimmy Crespo and Tyler forged a songwriting and touring partnership. Crespo co-wrote six of the songs on Aerosmith's 1982 album Rock in a Hard Place with Tyler. Crespo performed most guitar duties on the album. Then Rick Dufay joined on I think after 1982 to replace Whitford. Also some of the guitar work on the early records was done by othero musicians and not Perry from what I can remember.

Perry quit before Rock In A Hard Place. Eventually, Whitford did, too. Crespo and Dufay both played on that album, if memory serves. And they did tours as well.

Session guys allegedly played some stuff on Train Kept A Rolling. Haven't heard about other songs?

Aerosmith has kept their classic lineup intact for their career much longer than most bands, Stones included.

[en.wikipedia.org]

Attacking Aerosmith for trading out members during a brief period in the '80s is a peculiar line of attack for a Stones fan, of all people, to make.

you could not be more wrong. They BROKE UP for God's sake.Explain to me how that applies to "intact". Geez

aerosmith never broke up that i know of

Aerosmith never broke up.

Yup, they did. Wiki is the LAST thing one should look to for reliability

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Early on Tyler and Perry had a lot more problems keeping the band intact then jagger/Richards.Didn,t they have a lot of lineup changes early on not a huge fan of Aerosmith,Despite the Tyler's troubles, including an incapacitating motorcycle accident in January 1981,Jimmy Crespo and Tyler forged a songwriting and touring partnership. Crespo co-wrote six of the songs on Aerosmith's 1982 album Rock in a Hard Place with Tyler. Crespo performed most guitar duties on the album. Then Rick Dufay joined on I think after 1982 to replace Whitford. Also some of the guitar work on the early records was done by othero musicians and not Perry from what I can remember.

Perry quit before Rock In A Hard Place. Eventually, Whitford did, too. Crespo and Dufay both played on that album, if memory serves. And they did tours as well.

Session guys allegedly played some stuff on Train Kept A Rolling. Haven't heard about other songs?

Aerosmith has kept their classic lineup intact for their career much longer than most bands, Stones included.

[en.wikipedia.org]

Attacking Aerosmith for trading out members during a brief period in the '80s is a peculiar line of attack for a Stones fan, of all people, to make.

you could not be more wrong. They BROKE UP for God's sake.Explain to me how that applies to "intact". Geez

aerosmith never broke up that i know of

Aerosmith never broke up.

Yup, they did. Wiki is the LAST thing one should look to for reliability

just give us the years they broke up then

Yes, I was at their "reunion" show

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If those two were out they broke up I was at their reunion show

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Yup. and I was. The great Nuge opened

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Yup. I was there. The great Nuge opened.

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GasLightTroll.

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Was a terrific reunion, I tell ya! (Boy you are EASY!)

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Technicalities aside, I always assumed they did in fact "break up" after Perry and Whitford left ...or maybe more accurate to say they took a detour/intermission. Whatever you want to call it, there was a massive void in the band as the new faux band failed, and hard to even call them "Aerosmith" for that brief period. I do recall Done with Mirrors being hailed as a comeback at the time as well as a reunion, but that might have to do with the fact that all the core members were reuniting.

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Early on Tyler and Perry had a lot more problems keeping the band intact then jagger/Richards.Didn,t they have a lot of lineup changes early on not a huge fan of Aerosmith,Despite the Tyler's troubles, including an incapacitating motorcycle accident in January 1981,Jimmy Crespo and Tyler forged a songwriting and touring partnership. Crespo co-wrote six of the songs on Aerosmith's 1982 album Rock in a Hard Place with Tyler. Crespo performed most guitar duties on the album. Then Rick Dufay joined on I think after 1982 to replace Whitford. Also some of the guitar work on the early records was done by othero musicians and not Perry from what I can remember.

Perry quit before Rock In A Hard Place. Eventually, Whitford did, too. Crespo and Dufay both played on that album, if memory serves. And they did tours as well.

Session guys allegedly played some stuff on Train Kept A Rolling. Haven't heard about other songs?

Aerosmith has kept their classic lineup intact for their career much longer than most bands, Stones included.

[en.wikipedia.org]

Attacking Aerosmith for trading out members during a brief period in the '80s is a peculiar line of attack for a Stones fan, of all people, to make.

you could not be more wrong. They BROKE UP for God's sake.Explain to me how that applies to "intact". Geez

aerosmith never broke up that i know of

Aerosmith never broke up.

Yup, they did. Wiki is the LAST thing one should look to for reliability

just give us the years they broke up then

Yes, I was at their "reunion" show

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He understands. He's saying the loss of Perry and Whitford constituted a break-up. He doesn't count the Jimmy Crespo album or shows as legit. Like GNR fans who say it's not the real GNR without Slash.

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potus, mickscary, whatever you wanna be called. Your are thick as a brick. If a band was touring as Aerosmith then they never broke up! If they lost some original members but still toured as Aerosmith they didn't break up. When you say reunion show you mean when Joe Perry and Brad Whitford rejoined Aerosmith, the band, they never broke up. Just like Pink Floyd toured and released music without Roger Waters. They did not break up. Read a book if you can.