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Welsh Stone
I'm afraid my experience of Lucca wasn't great. My wife and I had Lucky Dip and ended up in Prato B - was so full where we were that we couldn't move. Normally it's busy in the middle but there's a bit of room on the side but this was just packed. My wife couldn't even see the video screens properly so we ended up watching on the road alongside the field - not ideal. Didn't help that we had a few idiots by us and there was a lot of pushing and shoving. Shame really as this was the only one she came to with me - she's more of a casual fan so I went to Spielberg and Zurich gigs on my own. I'll just have to talk her into the UK gigs next year....
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TheBlockbuster
Sympathy is the perfect opener right now. Start Me Up and Jumping Jack Flash are worn out as openers.
Sympathy builds up the tension in the crowd and the lowlight of the show (Keith's solo) is done and over with so the band can move on to better things.
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GJB
"but i think Keith is playing in a way people aren't ready for or understand yet."
I love the rolling stones, and I love Keith, and every part of me wishes this was true and that in 30 years we will all look back and go "yeah those last few years he played, he was really ahead of his time"
But the truth is an out of tune is exactly that, just an out of tune solo.
Saying that I agree with the rest of your thoughts stone4ever... I think when Keith concentrates on rhythm, ronnie hits the solo, and Mick is being Mick they still have it
I think his guitar is perfectly tuned. However, sometimes he plays out of key. he always has done that – particularly after 1966.
Come on man...
The bum notes, out of key 'solos' and just generally not being able to play parts he used to be able to play in his sleep is so much more prevalent now. It's okay to admit that, the man is 74 years old with terrible arthritis and a head injury.
I just listened to a bit of Sympathy from this latest show, the 'solo' is practically unlistenable. It's sad.
That's probably what's colouring your attitude, perhaps?
And there are two solos in SFTD, not one..
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Welsh Stone
I'm afraid my experience of Lucca wasn't great. My wife and I had Lucky Dip and ended up in Prato B - was so full where we were that we couldn't move. Normally it's busy in the middle but there's a bit of room on the side but this was just packed. My wife couldn't even see the video screens properly so we ended up watching on the road alongside the field - not ideal. Didn't help that we had a few idiots by us and there was a lot of pushing and shoving. Shame really as this was the only one she came to with me - she's more of a casual fan so I went to Spielberg and Zurich gigs on my own. I'll just have to talk her into the UK gigs next year....
Sorry to read this.
I am going with my wife to Amsterdam, but she has been to a few stones concerts thou.
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Welsh Stone
I'm afraid my experience of Lucca wasn't great. My wife and I had Lucky Dip and ended up in Prato B - was so full where we were that we couldn't move. Normally it's busy in the middle but there's a bit of room on the side but this was just packed. My wife couldn't even see the video screens properly so we ended up watching on the road alongside the field - not ideal. Didn't help that we had a few idiots by us and there was a lot of pushing and shoving. Shame really as this was the only one she came to with me - she's more of a casual fan so I went to Spielberg and Zurich gigs on my own. I'll just have to talk her into the UK gigs next year....
Sorry to read this.
I am going with my wife to Amsterdam, but she has been to a few stones concerts thou.
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GJB
"but i think Keith is playing in a way people aren't ready for or understand yet."
I love the rolling stones, and I love Keith, and every part of me wishes this was true and that in 30 years we will all look back and go "yeah those last few years he played, he was really ahead of his time"
But the truth is an out of tune is exactly that, just an out of tune solo.
Saying that I agree with the rest of your thoughts stone4ever... I think when Keith concentrates on rhythm, ronnie hits the solo, and Mick is being Mick they still have it
I think his guitar is perfectly tuned. However, sometimes he plays out of key. he always has done that – particularly after 1966.
Come on man...
The bum notes, out of key 'solos' and just generally not being able to play parts he used to be able to play in his sleep is so much more prevalent now. It's okay to admit that, the man is 74 years old with terrible arthritis and a head injury.
I just listened to a bit of Sympathy from this latest show, the 'solo' is practically unlistenable. It's sad.
That's probably what's colouring your attitude, perhaps?
And there are two solos in SFTD, not one..
I've heard the song so many times, especially the version they have been playing since 1989 that I can skip through to the 'solos', I was a bit pressed for time as well. They are completely disjointed and don't go anywhere.
Even the chord Keith hits at the beginning when the guitars first come in almost sounds out of tune/key these days.
I'm aware he's made mistakes throughout his career live, but not to the extent that they are now. He's starting to go down the Chuck Berry road.
If anyone wants to have a slight at my fandom because of my opinion on the current state of Keith's playing, that's fine. People have their opinions. However, you have blinkers on if you think that his playing hasn't severely deteriorated in the past 18 or so years.
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I'm afraid my experience of Lucca wasn't great. My wife and I had Lucky Dip and ended up in Prato B - was so full where we were that we couldn't move. Normally it's busy in the middle but there's a bit of room on the side but this was just packed. My wife couldn't even see the video screens properly so we ended up watching on the road alongside the field - not ideal. Didn't help that we had a few idiots by us and there was a lot of pushing and shoving. Shame really as this was the only one she came to with me - she's more of a casual fan so I went to Spielberg and Zurich gigs on my own. I'll just have to talk her into the UK gigs next year....
Sorry to read this.
I am going with my wife to Amsterdam, but she has been to a few stones concerts thou.
sorry to hear that, and i am afraid you were not the only one.. This article tells similar story for prato b "I spent 100 euros and could not see nothing"
[corrierefiorentino.corriere.it]
in short some comments by fans criticise the organization: too few restrooms, no wardrobe but there was a ban for bags bigger than a pocket, the parterre lowe than the stage so people could not see nothing
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Stonesfan2146
I got the no filter pit in lucky dip. But I saw no one in the pit that hadlucky dip tickets, we go really lucky!
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Welsh Stone
I'm afraid my experience of Lucca wasn't great. My wife and I had Lucky Dip and ended up in Prato B - was so full where we were that we couldn't move. Normally it's busy in the middle but there's a bit of room on the side but this was just packed. My wife couldn't even see the video screens properly so we ended up watching on the road alongside the field - not ideal. Didn't help that we had a few idiots by us and there was a lot of pushing and shoving. Shame really as this was the only one she came to with me - she's more of a casual fan so I went to Spielberg and Zurich gigs on my own. I'll just have to talk her into the UK gigs next year....
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GJB
"but i think Keith is playing in a way people aren't ready for or understand yet."
I love the rolling stones, and I love Keith, and every part of me wishes this was true and that in 30 years we will all look back and go "yeah those last few years he played, he was really ahead of his time"
But the truth is an out of tune is exactly that, just an out of tune solo.
Saying that I agree with the rest of your thoughts stone4ever... I think when Keith concentrates on rhythm, ronnie hits the solo, and Mick is being Mick they still have it
I think his guitar is perfectly tuned. However, sometimes he plays out of key. he always has done that – particularly after 1966.
Come on man...
The bum notes, out of key 'solos' and just generally not being able to play parts he used to be able to play in his sleep is so much more prevalent now. It's okay to admit that, the man is 74 years old with terrible arthritis and a head injury.
I just listened to a bit of Sympathy from this latest show, the 'solo' is practically unlistenable. It's sad.
That's probably what's colouring your attitude, perhaps?
And there are two solos in SFTD, not one..
I've heard the song so many times, especially the version they have been playing since 1989 that I can skip through to the 'solos', I was a bit pressed for time as well. They are completely disjointed and don't go anywhere.
Even the chord Keith hits at the beginning when the guitars first come in almost sounds out of tune/key these days.
I'm aware he's made mistakes throughout his career live, but not to the extent that they are now. He's starting to go down the Chuck Berry road.
If anyone wants to have a slight at my fandom because of my opinion on the current state of Keith's playing, that's fine. People have their opinions. However, you have blinkers on if you think that his playing hasn't severely deteriorated in the past 18 or so years.
Not the first chord (that's a powerhouse), but the following suspension (ending on a single string, instead of making more strings ring simultaneously).
He is bending that single note slightly out of key, and loses the punch while doing it. So no disagreement there.
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If I hear JJF - I also feel some
-Altamont
-Oakland
-NYC
-Hyde Park
-Brussels
-LA Forum
-Paris aux Printemps
-Texas
-Hampton
-Leeds
-Atlantic City...
Every time!!!
If fu**ing rocks!!!!
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raphph
Had to smuggle my Fuji x100f in my boxer shots to avoid security...Much better concert experience than the militant Hamburg....
Will post full photo album when finished
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Welsh Stone
I'm afraid my experience of Lucca wasn't great. My wife and I had Lucky Dip and ended up in Prato B - was so full where we were that we couldn't move. Normally it's busy in the middle but there's a bit of room on the side but this was just packed. My wife couldn't even see the video screens properly so we ended up watching on the road alongside the field - not ideal. Didn't help that we had a few idiots by us and there was a lot of pushing and shoving. Shame really as this was the only one she came to with me - she's more of a casual fan so I went to Spielberg and Zurich gigs on my own. I'll just have to talk her into the UK gigs next year....
Sorry to read this.
I am going with my wife to Amsterdam, but she has been to a few stones concerts thou.
sorry to hear that, and i am afraid you were not the only one.. This article tells similar story for prato b "I spent 100 euros and could not see nothing"
[corrierefiorentino.corriere.it]
in short some comments by fans criticise the organization: too few restrooms, no wardrobe but there was a ban for bags bigger than a pocket, the parterre lowe than the stage so people could not see nothing
I second those comments
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Stonesfan2146
I got the no filter pit in lucky dip. But I saw no one in the pit that hadlucky dip tickets, we go really lucky!
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majomuc
So, finished my pics from the Lucca show.
[www.flickr.com]
Although there a lot of nice ones here already, feel free to enjoy them.
They are from Prato A Gold, so a little farther away then mine from Munich (Pit).
Used my Canon M6 with the small 55-200 lens. Had to hide it, as security though of it as "semiprofessionell" (nice joke).
Anyway, metal detectors did not care about that it seems ...
Cheers ...