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LongBeachArena72
I can barely tell one song from another anymore but it's quite possible that's more on me than them. The sputtering slow-motion out-of-tune mess I hear is clearly not what you hear and what the hundreds of thousands of people who will dig them on the this tour hear.
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stone4ever
Well i don't know longbeach, perhaps this music wasn't written or performed for analyzing, its Rock & Roll. Its not about perfection , its about having a few beers or joints, both or neither, and letting it all go, having fun. I think they have fun performing and their audience has fun watching them play. For me that's what it's all about. The spectacle of it all, the raw energy and power generated by this band. I don't care if they make mistakes , i actually enjoy some of them, they make me laugh.
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GJB
"but i think Keith is playing in a way people aren't ready for or understand yet."
I love the rolling stones, and I love Keith, and every part of me wishes this was true and that in 30 years we will all look back and go "yeah those last few years he played, he was really ahead of his time"
But the truth is an out of tune is exactly that, just an out of tune solo.
Saying that I agree with the rest of your thoughts stone4ever... I think when Keith concentrates on rhythm, ronnie hits the solo, and Mick is being Mick they still have it
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GJB
"but i think Keith is playing in a way people aren't ready for or understand yet."
I love the rolling stones, and I love Keith, and every part of me wishes this was true and that in 30 years we will all look back and go "yeah those last few years he played, he was really ahead of his time"
But the truth is an out of tune is exactly that, just an out of tune solo.
Saying that I agree with the rest of your thoughts stone4ever... I think when Keith concentrates on rhythm, ronnie hits the solo, and Mick is being Mick they still have it
I think his guitar is perfectly tuned. However, sometimes he plays out of key. he always has done that – particularly after 1966.
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LongBeachArena72
epidemiologist.
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GJB
"but i think Keith is playing in a way people aren't ready for or understand yet."
I love the rolling stones, and I love Keith, and every part of me wishes this was true and that in 30 years we will all look back and go "yeah those last few years he played, he was really ahead of his time"
But the truth is an out of tune is exactly that, just an out of tune solo.
Saying that I agree with the rest of your thoughts stone4ever... I think when Keith concentrates on rhythm, ronnie hits the solo, and Mick is being Mick they still have it
I think his guitar is perfectly tuned. However, sometimes he plays out of key. he always has done that – particularly after 1966.
Come on man...
The bum notes, out of key 'solos' and just generally not being able to play parts he used to be able to play in his sleep is so much more prevalent now. It's okay to admit that, the man is 74 years old with terrible arthritis and a head injury.
I just listened to a bit of Sympathy from this latest show, the 'solo' is practically unlistenable. It's sad.
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GJB
"but i think Keith is playing in a way people aren't ready for or understand yet."
I love the rolling stones, and I love Keith, and every part of me wishes this was true and that in 30 years we will all look back and go "yeah those last few years he played, he was really ahead of his time"
But the truth is an out of tune is exactly that, just an out of tune solo.
Saying that I agree with the rest of your thoughts stone4ever... I think when Keith concentrates on rhythm, ronnie hits the solo, and Mick is being Mick they still have it
I think his guitar is perfectly tuned. However, sometimes he plays out of key. he always has done that – particularly after 1966.
Come on man...
The bum notes, out of key 'solos' and just generally not being able to play parts he used to be able to play in his sleep is so much more prevalent now. It's okay to admit that, the man is 74 years old with terrible arthritis and a head injury.
I just listened to a bit of Sympathy from this latest show, the 'solo' is practically unlistenable. It's sad.
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GJB
"but i think Keith is playing in a way people aren't ready for or understand yet."
I love the rolling stones, and I love Keith, and every part of me wishes this was true and that in 30 years we will all look back and go "yeah those last few years he played, he was really ahead of his time"
But the truth is an out of tune is exactly that, just an out of tune solo.
Saying that I agree with the rest of your thoughts stone4ever... I think when Keith concentrates on rhythm, ronnie hits the solo, and Mick is being Mick they still have it
I think his guitar is perfectly tuned. However, sometimes he plays out of key. he always has done that – particularly after 1966.
Come on man...
The bum notes, out of key 'solos' and just generally not being able to play parts he used to be able to play in his sleep is so much more prevalent now. It's okay to admit that, the man is 74 years old with terrible arthritis and a head injury.
I just listened to a bit of Sympathy from this latest show, the 'solo' is practically unlistenable. It's sad.
I think Keith pulls it off here in Zurich ( needs further improvement ) but then in Lucca he is all over the place again. Its hard to know what's going on in that head of his. In Lucca you can see him flicking his fingers like they hurt before he plays the solo. Could be that SFTD needs to be later in the set when his fingers have warmed up a bit.
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stone4ever
Well i don't know longbeach, perhaps this music wasn't written or performed for analyzing, its Rock & Roll. Its not about perfection , its about having a few beers or joints, both or neither, and letting it all go, having fun.
As a matter of fact, one chord played by a semi - unconscious 74 years old Keith Richards conveys much more energy that the entire discography of the current nerdish (so - called) rock bands.
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stone4ever
Well i don't know longbeach, perhaps this music wasn't written or performed for analyzing, its Rock & Roll. Its not about perfection , its about having a few beers or joints, both or neither, and letting it all go, having fun.
As a matter of fact, one chord played by a semi - unconscious 74 years old Keith Richards conveys much more energy that the entire discography of the current nerdish (so - called) rock bands.
True. In every of Keith's chords lies the entire history of The Rolling Stones. At least for me.
If I hear JJF - I also feel some
-Altamont
-Oakland
-NYC
-Hyde Park
-Brussels
-LA Forum
-Paris aux Printemps
-Texas
-Hampton
-Leeds
-Atlantic City...
Every time!!!
If fu**ing rocks!!!!
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maumau
yeah to say that today's keith symphathy's solo is good is delusional
but delusional is also thinking that thousands of people that have fun each night are morons delighted to be ripped off (and having been so in the past 20 years)
they're 74, they play rock and roll, they fu up now way more than 20 and 40 years ago (and they do it differently, as someone pointed out here, they're not youngsters that fu up) and they have build a show to cover, partly, those fu's up.
having said that, I would not spend a dime on mick jagger backed up by some 20 years old guys pumping up satisfaction at 2000 rpm
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Lorenz
a super loud but totally out of key Keith riff. People were turning heads and asking if something was really wrong with the sound.
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maumau
yes a no brainer, I doo agree but I think Mick dont want to abandon the crowd pleaser of the "uh huh!" and the coreography. and that is a huuuge compromise. a huge "filter" if you pardon me the irony
mick thinks differently and as we know it is him who decide the setlist (with a little help of chuck)
i think we all know that if they would start with street fighting man...
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maumau
yes a no brainer, I doo agree but I think Mick dont want to abandon the crowd pleaser of the "uh huh!" and the coreography. and that is a huuuge compromise. a huge "filter" if you pardon me the irony
mick thinks differently and as we know it is him who decide the setlist (with a little help of chuck)
i think we all know that if they would start with street fighting man...
Totally agree with all above maumau
Its like Miss You, Mick will never abandon a crowd pleaser .
Mick is as suborn at keeping SFTD as Keith is stubborn at ruining it.
I see Keith deliberately not coming in on cue to Sympathy's solo and then he starts running and high fiving the crowd or what ever, then as an after thought he goes completely against the grain of bothering with the original solo and plays this off key monster sound. Haha gotta love him.
Socrates just seen your post after this one, you are on my wave length, he doesn't want to play it .
No one on iorr had thought about that.
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yes a no brainer, I doo agree but I think Mick dont want to abandon the crowd pleaser of the "uh huh!" and the coreography. and that is a huuuge compromise. a huge "filter" if you pardon me the irony
mick thinks differently and as we know it is him who decide the setlist (with a little help of chuck)
i think we all know that if they would start with street fighting man...
Totally agree with all above maumau
Its like Miss You, Mick will never abandon a crowd pleaser .
Mick is as suborn at keeping SFTD as Keith is stubborn at ruining it.
I see Keith deliberately not coming in on cue to Sympathy's solo and then he starts running and high fiving the crowd or what ever, then as an after thought he goes completely against the grain of bothering with the original solo and plays this off key monster sound. Haha gotta love him.
Socrates just seen your post after this one, you are on my wave length, he doesn't want to play it .
No one on iorr had thought about that.
Hi, I'm leaving again. Just wanted to talk about the music a bit. Great tour so far!
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Lorenz
What I don't get is why they choose and keep Sympathy as an opener.