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StonedRambler
I was in Hamburg and in Munich. Really, there's have been shows in recent years where he played worse
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corriecas
Keefs current guitar solos are like drips from Heaven.although some depressed people dont think so.
Jeroen
Guess im gonna go to jail for this remark
Well spoken, Jeroen. Let me just throw in my unprofessional remarks.
There's so much negative criticism around here. The band members look old. Mick's messing up a verses. Keith's playing out of key.
Well, but it makes me happy to hear and see them. It gives me goose bumps. It floods my body with happiness hormones. I'm still on a high from the Hamburg show. There's nothing like that in the world.
God bless.
d.f
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Rocky Dijon
I guess it's just perspective. I haven't attended a show since 2002 and likely won't, but I watch every official concert release and check out a lot of what gets posted to Youtube. What amazes me now and has for years is how good they are enough of the time for men their ages and in their shape. I think they're amazing. I don't go to it expecting to hear them like they were 40 or 50 years ago. The very notion seems ridiculous to me. I understand thinking it's overpriced entertainment. No one forces anyone to go. You can sit at home and still see them in concert one way or another. The extremes that some people react to them makes me think they either don't grasp their ages and condition or they probably have a problem around old people in real life as well. Yes, they move slowly. It takes a long time to tell a story. They lose their train of thought. They smell sometimes or have difficulty doing things younger, healthier people can do. It's part of life. We start out helpless and some of us live long enough to become helpless again. If you don't want to see an old entertainer, then stay away. The same applied to Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, or Frank Sinatra, Jerry Lewis, and the rest of their generation of entertainers. People get old and it shows on their faces and how they move and think. It's a fact.
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StonedRambler
I was in Hamburg and in Munich. In Munich he played as good as he can get since 2012. Really, there's have been shows in recent years where he played much worse. There have been only two major moments when he played wrong notes, and that is not much if you ask me. After Hamburg I was also really worried since he messed up so much, but it was probably his opening night nervousness plus he did not play much for about a year and it was cold. Yes, it is true that Keith does not play as good as in the past - his playing deteriorated around 1994 and again around 2005. But that is nothing new and so this thread does not reveal anything new...
With Keiths current guitar sound - that is really just a thing of taste. I think that this is his best live guitar sound ever, others prefer the 1989 tour which sounded to clean and sterile to me.
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GeorgV
Keith's been playing more or less like this the last 4-5 years, so I do not understand why some people should make this such a big issue now?
He has butchered intros to Start Me Up, Brown Sugar and others over the years without this massive kind of negative comments.
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erbissell
Ive been an IORRian for over 10 years, typically a silent non-contributer, but...
You guys are all forgetting something super important. We all as fans get to go see(or watch on youtube) the guitar player that created the sound and the riffs we all love, play our favorite songs, even some on Micawber(which is a piece of wood more legendary than most humans).
I'm a guitar player too. Ive studied guitar. Yes he is a sloppy mess this tour, yes the bum notes jar me out of the moment occasionally, no he does not play as well as he was even last year, but its still keith f***** Richards.
I've watched the same pattern happen with elderly family members, it's sad, but it's life. Yeah he probably did piss himself in hamburg, but as long as Keith wants to plug a tele into those roaring fender twins, and as long as Mick, Ronnie, Charlie can keep the rest of the show together, I will still be stoked, buying tickets, watching and listening to whatever bootlegs and youtube I can get my hands on. No matter how bad it gets. It's just another chapter in the book, take it or leave it.
Lastly, all this debate online is not helping the case for those of us who want them to keep going til the end. I'll call our side the "drop dead on stage" group haha.
Keep rolling Keith, we love you.
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Anitapal82
I am not Not negative just objective Keith can barely play guitar
Keith can't play guitar anymore, lets face it. Arthritis or age or hitting his head. It's over people. I love the band as much as anyone but he can't do it. Watching recent shows is excruciating , I am embarrassed for him . It time to retire gracefully. Most songs now he is simplifying his part until it's virtually non existent. Recent gimme shelter intros , last shows beast of burden are clear evidence. Check out midnight rambler from Munich his tentative playing almost makes it collapse , maybe the worst version I have ever heard. And his guitar solos OMG. listen to honky tony women solos from Hamburg or Munich and say I m negative. I am objective. Also the way he strokes the fretboard searching for what to play constantly is a worry. Keith has been one of the greatest rock stars of all time and it has to end one day . That day has come , unfortunately. Ok I have had my say. Now let me have it . I know some people on this forum cant tolerate a less than glowing review, and are sycophantic , well I am not. Dean goodmans review from Munich was spot on , Keith showed up , he was there but barely.
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Anitapal82
I am not Not negative just objective Keith can barely play guitar
Keith can't play guitar anymore, lets face it. Arthritis or age or hitting his head. It's over people. I love the band as much as anyone but he can't do it. Watching recent shows is excruciating , I am embarrassed for him . It time to retire gracefully. Most songs now he is simplifying his part until it's virtually non existent. Recent gimme shelter intros , last shows beast of burden are clear evidence. Check out midnight rambler from Munich his tentative playing almost makes it collapse , maybe the worst version I have ever heard. And his guitar solos OMG. listen to honky tony women solos from Hamburg or Munich and say I m negative. I am objective. Also the way he strokes the fretboard searching for what to play constantly is a worry. Keith has been one of the greatest rock stars of all time and it has to end one day . That day has come , unfortunately. Ok I have had my say. Now let me have it . I know some people on this forum cant tolerate a less than glowing review, and are sycophantic , well I am not. Dean goodmans review from Munich was spot on , Keith showed up , he was there but barely.
I give you credit for posting this and stating the obvious. I'll probably get banned from this site but as a long, long time fan (and amateur guitarist), Keith's abilities have declined. I mean, what is the mystery here? The guy is in his 70's and is not immune to the ravages of aging (including arthritis, the fall, etc). I know a lot of people (myself included) have a lot invested in this group and we don't want it to end. I am one of the folks who has taken a step back and believes that they should probably retire before they embarrass themselves and their legacy.
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mr_dja
Sometimes I find myself wondering how many of these people only keep their dogs and cats as pets while they cute little puppies and kittens abandoning them when they mature or, God forbid, become old and have to slow down.
It really scares me to think that some of these people may have authority and influence to determine how I'm allowed to live out my older years. They apparently have no qualms when it comes to voicing their opinions and desires for aged people they have no actual connection to whom they supposedly admire (or once admired) and I can only imagine what they might have planned for little old me.
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Anitapal82
I am not Not negative just objective Keith can barely play guitar
Keith can't play guitar anymore, lets face it. Arthritis or age or hitting his head. It's over people. I love the band as much as anyone but he can't do it. Watching recent shows is excruciating , I am embarrassed for him . It time to retire gracefully. Most songs now he is simplifying his part until it's virtually non existent. Recent gimme shelter intros , last shows beast of burden are clear evidence. Check out midnight rambler from Munich his tentative playing almost makes it collapse , maybe the worst version I have ever heard. And his guitar solos OMG. listen to honky tony women solos from Hamburg or Munich and say I m negative. I am objective. Also the way he strokes the fretboard searching for what to play constantly is a worry. Keith has been one of the greatest rock stars of all time and it has to end one day . That day has come , unfortunately. Ok I have had my say. Now let me have it . I know some people on this forum cant tolerate a less than glowing review, and are sycophantic , well I am not. Dean goodmans review from Munich was spot on , Keith showed up , he was there but barely.
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jlowe
Dame Kiri Te Kawana, the acclaimed Soprano has just announced her retirement from stage work (but may continue to record). She is 73 years old and recognises that her vocal powers are not what they were. She teaches vocal skills to aspiring opera singers and probably sees what they have (at their age), and she no longer has.
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onestep
I really do not see the point of this thread. The bait of "Keith guitar playing comments...then you start out he can't play guitar anymore."
Is that the point then? They should quit, he doesn't belong holding a guitar in public, he should be shamed by this thread, and how dare they?
Looks like a big crowd...and they weren't giving away tickets, and they performed Gimme Shelter pretty good.
video: [www.youtube.com]
My opinion is that he plays pretty good for his age....and isn't as good as he was during the blistering No Security tour. He had a hole drilled in his skull, and has severe arthritis in both hands. So that's my comment...he aging...can play guitar better than some people, and still gives The Rolling Stones their trademark sound. I love them still, and am sorry I can't get to Europe to catch one of these shows...for I fear they will never land on these shores as a performing group again.
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corriecas
Keefs current guitar solos are like drips from Heaven.although some depressed people dont think so.
Jeroen
Guess im gonna go to jail for this remark
Well spoken, Jeroen. Let me just throw in my unprofessional remarks.
There's so much negative criticism around here. The band members look old. Mick's messing up a verses. Keith's playing out of key.
Well, but it makes me happy to hear and see them. It gives me goose bumps. It floods my body with happiness hormones. I'm still on a high from the Hamburg show. There's nothing like that in the world.
God bless.
d.f
AGREE 100% WITH BOTH. I'm signing off before I start swearing. We had a ball in Hamburg. Opening night after nearly a year off the road and no warm up gig. .....I'm out of here.
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stone4ever
Its disrespectful to Keith and his followers but most of all its disrespectful to the Rolling Stones.
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stone4ever
Its disrespectful to Keith and his followers but most of all its disrespectful to the Rolling Stones.
Jeez, @#$%& hell you a are a hypocrite.
- Doxa