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mistervinyl
Anyway what a silly idea to tour Northern Europe in mid september as automn comes three weeks in advance this year !
They usually tour Europe in june / july...
Gonna be cold in Paris & Keith is gonna play with arthritis AND gloves... ><
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mistervinyl
Anyway what a silly idea to tour Northern Europe in mid september as automn comes three weeks in advance this year !
They usually tour Europe in june / july...
Gonna be cold in Paris & Keith is gonna play with arthritis AND gloves... ><
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straycatukA PERFECT SUMMARY OF THIS THREAD.Quote
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Spud
Don't know why I'm bothering to comment at all ...
... but this thread is essentially five pages of folks stating the bleedin' obvious.
This band still provides a marvellous entertainment spectacle and the music they've created will be with us to love & enjoy forever..
..So what's the problem ?
The problem is that the people who can't/won't go to the shows feel obliged to tell the others who went how crappy the shows were.
Nothing new there...
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Don't know why I'm bothering to comment at all ...
... but this thread is essentially five pages of folks stating the bleedin' obvious.
This band still provides a marvellous entertainment spectacle and the music they've created will be with us to love & enjoy forever..
..So what's the problem ?
The problem is that the people who can't/won't go to the shows feel obliged to tell the others who went how crappy the shows were.
Nothing new there...
Yet there are also those who went to both shows that have expressed their feelings of the performances they witnessed that might not always be as glowing as others (see Dean Goodman's honest reviews as one example).
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Munich
Just opinions, but all are valid and should be appreciated for what they are - personal opinions. Some might disagree with another opinion, but that doesn't make it wrong - it's all in the eye of the beholder. Some might think Keith is "better than ever"...hmmm...ok...while others think he's a shadow of his former self. And imo one doesn't have to actually be at the show to form an opinion on the actual performance level one way or the other (though it's helpful) - some of the videos are as clear as day with absolute great sound.
By the way, there are great pics of the shows on each of those pages linked above, along with a variety of reviews from those in attendance - from stellar to mediocre at best.
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straycatukA PERFECT SUMMARY OF THIS THREAD.Quote
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Spud
Don't know why I'm bothering to comment at all ...
... but this thread is essentially five pages of folks stating the bleedin' obvious.
This band still provides a marvellous entertainment spectacle and the music they've created will be with us to love & enjoy forever..
..So what's the problem ?
The problem is that the people who can't/won't go to the shows feel obliged to tell the others who went how crappy the shows were.
Nothing new there...
Yet there are also those who went to both shows that have expressed their feelings of the performances they witnessed that might not always be as glowing as others (see Dean Goodman's honest reviews as one example).
Hamburg
Munich
Just opinions, but all are valid and should be appreciated for what they are - personal opinions. Some might disagree with another opinion, but that doesn't make it wrong - it's all in the eye of the beholder. Some might think Keith is "better than ever"...hmmm...ok...while others think he's a shadow of his former self. And imo one doesn't have to actually be at the show to form an opinion on the actual performance level one way or the other (though it's helpful) - some of the videos are as clear as day with absolute great sound.
By the way, there are great pics of the shows on each of those pages linked above, along with a variety of reviews from those in attendance - from stellar to mediocre at best.
Hairball, say it ain't so. You seriously cannot compare a youtube video playing through a computer speaker or headphones to a live gig where they are pumping out thousands of watts of guitar, and you can feel the whole joint vibrate when Charlie kicks the bass drum. We were both at Roger Waters' show. Do you think watching that on Youtube would be a good replacement for having been there?
I don't know...there were a few rough patches at the beginning, but also some real nice weaving moments. Not a train wreck by any stretch.
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keefriff99
It's hilarious that people are still trying to blame smartphone videos, as if the technology is capable of magically inserting wrong chords or bum notes into the audio stream.
If anything, high-quality videos are more accurate than reports from people who were there and caught up in the moment. Many times, I've been at shows and been completely overwhelmed by the spectacle, only to go home and watch videos that people uploaded and think, "How did I miss THAT mistake??"
Well, it's because I was swept up in the magic of live music and wasn't trying to critique the performances.
And that's great...but don't claim that audience recordings are somehow skewing the performances. Smartphone technology is incredibly advanced now. What you hear is what ACTUALLY occurred, not what you perceived when you were in the crowd.
Now see, I find the rockers to be the hardest to listen to. The energy is simply dead on Brown Sugar, Start Me Up, Satisfaction, even JJF.
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keefriff99I don't know...there were a few rough patches at the beginning, but also some real nice weaving moments. Not a train wreck by any stretch.
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keefriff99I don't know...there were a few rough patches at the beginning, but also some real nice weaving moments. Not a train wreck by any stretch.
True they eventually get into a groove, but that intro is.................very sad.
In fact, it's so bad it almost seems like a spoof with someone overdubbing a cacaphony of non-related guitar noises.
Bless Keith, at least he's still trying.
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keefriff99I don't know...there were a few rough patches at the beginning, but also some real nice weaving moments. Not a train wreck by any stretch.
True they eventually get into a groove, but that intro is.................very sad.
In fact, it's so bad it almost seems like a spoof with someone overdubbing a cacaphony of non-related guitar noises.
Bless Keith, at least he's still trying.
It was "Brown Sugar," right?
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TeddyB1018
Gigs are not designed or performed to be most effective on a video with compressed sound. Even in the cases of the best days of the Stones, they overdubbed their live albums. This is in part because what makes an album sound good is different than a live gig. None of this is to “defend” anyone’s playing. But it is to say that they are not up ther considering “how will this look and sound on someone’s computer.” They are hearing all those watts!
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Hairball
I've also had experiences of being positively overhwelmed at shows surrounded by like-minded people, and then seeing/hearing the results later and thinking I must have been higher than shit to think the actual performance was great.