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"Fanny Mae": "I like this version more than the better known Chess outtake,...
Where is this "better known Chess outtake" of Fanny Mae? Did I miss something in nearly 50 years of collecting?
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"Fanny Mae": "I like this version more than the better known Chess outtake,...
Where is this "better known Chess outtake" of Fanny Mae? Did I miss something in nearly 50 years of collecting?
There is no Fanny Mae outtake among "normal" collectors of course.
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"Fanny Mae": "I like this version more than the better known Chess outtake,...
Where is this "better known Chess outtake" of Fanny Mae? Did I miss something in nearly 50 years of collecting?
There is no Fanny Mae outtake among "normal" collectors of course.
Outtake, as in not released on Out Of Our Heads. He writes about the well-known Chess-version of Fanny Mae.
All of the Chess boots that I've got have used the BBC recording as a substitute.
Zentgraf has it listed as "Unverified".
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
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"Fanny Mae": "I like this version more than the better known Chess outtake,...
Where is this "better known Chess outtake" of Fanny Mae? Did I miss something in nearly 50 years of collecting?
There is no Fanny Mae outtake among "normal" collectors of course.
Outtake, as in not released on Out Of Our Heads. He writes about the well-known Chess-version of Fanny Mae.
All of the Chess boots that I've got have used the BBC recording as a substitute.
Zentgraf has it listed as "Unverified".
Yes, that's why I thought that this "better known" = "more widely available" remark was a bit hilarious. A Chess outtake of Fanny Mae may exist or not, but even if that's the case, it's surely not "better known" than the BBC recording.
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Stones podcastThis is a very amusing and quite interesting three part podcast, with at the end of some nice stuff but Mick and Keith about the new album.
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Dozens of "experts" here, but I still have no answer which bootleg 2cd set is the best. Usually it's DAC. I won't buy the official remix-demix album which seems to be as bad as expected and incomplete anyway. But I think I will order the book.
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Dozens of "experts" here, but I still have no answer which bootleg 2cd set is the best. Usually it's DAC. I won't buy the official remix-demix album which seems to be as bad as expected and incomplete anyway. But I think I will order the book.
These songs are spread on various bootlegs. Some of them may have better-sounding songs than others, so your question is impossible to answer.
However, the recent «complete» semi-legit release didn't sound too bad, imo.
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Dozens of "experts" here, but I still have no answer which bootleg 2cd set is the best. Usually it's DAC. I won't buy the official remix-demix album which seems to be as bad as expected and incomplete anyway. But I think I will order the book.
These songs are spread on various bootlegs. Some of them may have better-sounding songs than others, so your question is impossible to answer.
However, the recent «complete» semi-legit release didn't sound too bad, imo.
That's not the case. Nearly all circulating BBC (not TV) tracks are collected on the 1995 2cd set, on DAC-130, on We Got A Good Thing Going (Godfather), the "recent semi-legit release" (I know what you mean) and probably 1-2 more comparable releases. That's difficult to compare of course, but maybe somebody did. I mean we have folks here who watch 5-6 bad audience videos of the same show... nothing is impossible.
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This one is currently most complete and best sound overall (in my opinion).
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Dozens of "experts" here, but I still have no answer which bootleg 2cd set is the best. Usually it's DAC. I won't buy the official remix-demix album which seems to be as bad as expected and incomplete anyway. But I think I will order the book.
These songs are spread on various bootlegs. Some of them may have better-sounding songs than others, so your question is impossible to answer.
However, the recent «complete» semi-legit release didn't sound too bad, imo.
That's not the case. Nearly all circulating BBC (not TV) tracks are collected on the 1995 2cd set, on DAC-130, on We Got A Good Thing Going (Godfather), the "recent semi-legit release" (I know what you mean) and probably 1-2 more comparable releases. That's difficult to compare of course, but maybe somebody did. I mean we have folks here who watch 5-6 bad audience videos of the same show... nothing is impossible.
Yeah, I get that you want a compilation, and the with the best possible sound.
Then again, these recording are also scattered all over different releases. It's hard to have complete control over the lowest generation tapes the different versions stem from.
That's the problem..
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Dozens of "experts" here, but I still have no answer which bootleg 2cd set is the best. Usually it's DAC. I won't buy the official remix-demix album which seems to be as bad as expected and incomplete anyway. But I think I will order the book.
These songs are spread on various bootlegs. Some of them may have better-sounding songs than others, so your question is impossible to answer.
However, the recent «complete» semi-legit release didn't sound too bad, imo.
That's not the case. Nearly all circulating BBC (not TV) tracks are collected on the 1995 2cd set, on DAC-130, on We Got A Good Thing Going (Godfather), the "recent semi-legit release" (I know what you mean) and probably 1-2 more comparable releases. That's difficult to compare of course, but maybe somebody did. I mean we have folks here who watch 5-6 bad audience videos of the same show... nothing is impossible.
Yeah, I get that you want a compilation, and the with the best possible sound.
Then again, these recording are also scattered all over different releases. It's hard to have complete control over the lowest generation tapes the different versions stem from.
That's the problem..
That's the problem indeed. There is no such thing as the "best compilation" that uses the best possible source of each and every track. Some newer ones are pretty good, like the latest DAC or Godfather (both seem to derive from the same torrent of a fan-made BBC compilation), then you find that the odd track here and there sounds much better on an almost forgotten bootleg CD from 30 years ago that also includes a lot of shit in nowadays terms, and therefore may have escaped the attention of "modern" compilers in general. And there you go! The recent "complete" grey market triple CD caught my attention because it seems to be pretty good in general, but I have still a lot of tracks to compare in more detail. For example, it *seems* to have the best & most natural sounding version of "Ain't That Loving You Baby" which I like much better than the heavily processed-sounding "On Air"-release. Then again, the Ass Blaster version also sounds very nice, but starts "cold" with Mick's vocals, thereby missing the instrumental fade-in. It's difficult!
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"On Air" debuts on the charts (as of 12/12/2017)
#8 The Netherlands
#10 Germany
#12 Belgium (Flanders)
#16 Japan (5,217 copies sold)
#20 Scotland
#22 Sweden
#22 Italy
#27 United Kingdom (9,603 copies sold)
#29 Norway
#30 Wales
#32 Belgium (Wallonia)
#36 Ireland
#44 New Zealand
#47 United States (13,763 copies sold + 963 stream points = 14,726 sales)
#54 France (4,000 copies sold)
#54 Australia
#58 Canada
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Thanks for that. Very interesting.
For a bunch of recordings over 50 years old that's pretty decent in terms of chart placings in my opinion. Maybe not so much in terms of sales. Does that include downloads or just physical copies ? I get the impression that the kind of people who buy physical copies are the kind of people who moan about dates being wrong or poor tapes being used. People like me. However, I can well imagine that sets like these will continue to sell to some degree in the long term too which should not be forgotten.
Kind of surprising that 9600 gets you in the top 30 though and that's a very low sales figure for the USA isn't it ? Is that standard these days ? I really have no idea.