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bye bye johnny
From The Sun, February 1:
Ronnie also revealed the group were planning a tour around Europe in the coming months and were putting live music above their hotly anticipated new record.
He said of the album: “It’s coming along slowly. It’s the gaps in between that eat up all the time. It is a matter of getting us all together again. “Everyone is in a different part of the world.
"So instead of putting emphasis on rushing an album, we’re doing the opposite and taking a really long time. And we’re putting live shows first.”
[www.the-sun.com]
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Hairball
“It’s coming along slowly..."
Quite an understatement - 16 years and counting with no new album in sight....
Maybe it's already time to change the thread title again - thinking 2024 or 2025 would be more accurate at this snails pace.
Hey, Hairball. Yep, I’m in total agreement. This is ho depressing, really. Whereas, yes, I’m thrilled they’re still performing - and I would mind a free ticket! -, I, genuinely, long for a new album. In September 2023, I turn 40. If that isn’t scary-enough a proposition for me, one album of all-original Jagger-Richards compositions since ‘05 certainly is. I, personally, find their creative hiatus to be ludicrous. These guys wrote Gimme Shelter and Satisfaction, right? Can they not just knock-out a dozen numbers? I know I’ll get a few negative responses with this post, but man, I’m just a little frustrated, you know?
Yes the can, it would be ABB 2: a bunch of all sounding the same songs, Stones by numbers, and it looks like Mick doesn't want to release an album like that again.
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Jeff Sarli's acoustic bass playing on B2B is 'sub standard'? Why?
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Hairball
“It’s coming along slowly..."
Quite an understatement - 16 years and counting with no new album in sight....
Maybe it's already time to change the thread title again - thinking 2024 or 2025 would be more accurate at this snails pace.
Hey, Hairball. Yep, I’m in total agreement. This is ho depressing, really. Whereas, yes, I’m thrilled they’re still performing - and I would mind a free ticket! -, I, genuinely, long for a new album. In September 2023, I turn 40. If that isn’t scary-enough a proposition for me, one album of all-original Jagger-Richards compositions since ‘05 certainly is. I, personally, find their creative hiatus to be ludicrous. These guys wrote Gimme Shelter and Satisfaction, right? Can they not just knock-out a dozen numbers? I know I’ll get a few negative responses with this post, but man, I’m just a little frustrated, you know?
Yes the can, it would be ABB 2: a bunch of all sounding the same songs, Stones by numbers, and it looks like Mick doesn't want to release an album like that again.
And that begs the question: what, exactly, does he want to release?
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DandelionPowderman
Jeff Sarli's acoustic bass playing on B2B is 'sub standard'? Why?
24FPS did say "almost all". Perhaps that's the exception?
Should be.
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If it's stuff like Easy Sleazy, I'm in for a 12 pack.
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Hairball
“It’s coming along slowly..."
Quite an understatement - 16 years and counting with no new album in sight....
Maybe it's already time to change the thread title again - thinking 2024 or 2025 would be more accurate at this snails pace.
Hey, Hairball. Yep, I’m in total agreement. This is ho depressing, really. Whereas, yes, I’m thrilled they’re still performing - and I would mind a free ticket! -, I, genuinely, long for a new album. In September 2023, I turn 40. If that isn’t scary-enough a proposition for me, one album of all-original Jagger-Richards compositions since ‘05 certainly is. I, personally, find their creative hiatus to be ludicrous. These guys wrote Gimme Shelter and Satisfaction, right? Can they not just knock-out a dozen numbers? I know I’ll get a few negative responses with this post, but man, I’m just a little frustrated, you know?
Yes the can, it would be ABB 2: a bunch of all sounding the same songs, Stones by numbers, and it looks like Mick doesn't want to release an album like that again.
And that begs the question: what, exactly, does he want to release?
If it's stuff like Easy Sleazy, I'm in for a 12 pack.
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If it's stuff like Easy Sleazy, I'm in for a 12 pack.
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VoodooLounge13
B&L 2, or even a country double LP - covers mixed with stuff they've done themselves - would be most welcome at this point if nothing else.
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Doxa
But despite of it's success, I lean on thinking more and more that for Stones fans the idea of them releasing something new is more important than the actual content of it.
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Doxa
I need to say that always honest Ronnie's comment was a bit let down in regard to their priorities and the situation of the new album. Surely nothing unpredictable, but still...
The upcoming summer tour - like any tour since 2012 - has nothing to do with a possible album release, be it whatever kind. The Doubting Thomas in me says that it would be a miracle if they would release a new album before the tour. More realistic would be to execpt it during the autumn or for the Christmas market.
But a positive side is that we don't have any problems to reach 500 pages...
- Doxa
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Doxa
I need to say that always honest Ronnie's comment was a bit let down in regard to their priorities and the situation of the new album. Surely nothing unpredictable, but still...
The upcoming summer tour - like any tour since 2012 - has nothing to do with a possible album release, be it whatever kind. The Doubting Thomas in me says that it would be a miracle if they would release a new album before the tour. More realistic would be to execpt it during the autumn or for the Christmas market.
But a positive side is that we don't have any problems to reach 500 pages...
- Doxa
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But despite of it's success, I lean on thinking more and more that for Stones fans the idea of them releasing something new is more important than the actual content of it.
You certainly do have a point here (and I am possibly among the guilty ones). But on the other hand, what's the worst thing that could happen? Another Stones-by-the-numbers album! That is, still not a bad album. Everybody will find two or three songs they like, a handful of songs they can somehow tolerate, and a bunch of fillers. OK, that's only business as usual but still better than nothing at all.
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But despite of it's success, I lean on thinking more and more that for Stones fans the idea of them releasing something new is more important than the actual content of it.
You certainly do have a point here (and I am possibly among the guilty ones). But on the other hand, what's the worst thing that could happen? Another Stones-by-the-numbers album! That is, still not a bad album. Everybody will find two or three songs they like, a handful of songs they can somehow tolerate, and a bunch of fillers. OK, that's only business as usual but still better than nothing at all.
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But despite of it's success, I lean on thinking more and more that for Stones fans the idea of them releasing something new is more important than the actual content of it.
You certainly do have a point here (and I am possibly among the guilty ones). But on the other hand, what's the worst thing that could happen? Another Stones-by-the-numbers album! That is, still not a bad album. Everybody will find two or three songs they like, a handful of songs they can somehow tolerate, and a bunch of fillers. OK, that's only business as usual but still better than nothing at all.
Well, I am surely as guilty as you are there. Damn, I would like to have a new Stones album anytime, be it whatever like. And besides I think the whole concept of a having a new Stones album is/was like a rock standard. I recall people like Bruce Springsteen talk about it, and still in his popular years being as excited of it as younger. So one should not underestimate even the idea of it... It is like the thrilling moment when "Ladies and Gentlemen, The Rolling Stones!" is announced, and the band hits on stage...
I also agree that being Stones-by-the-numbers does not mean that it is not a good album. I think A BIGGER BANG is a good album, as is VOODOO LOUNGE (two albums that I think mostly can be described as that). I think as albums they are like they were intented at the time: showing that they still are in a form, and able to deliver the goods very convincingly. Artistically they do not add that much to their legacy, but shit, they do sound like The Rolling Stones, and that alone is a huge achievement, a merit (and if my ears have authority, they sound better than any other rock band just by sounding like they do). I very rarely listen to those albums, but whenever I do, or some odd cuts from there pops up somewhere, I always go like 'wow, that sounds so good. Much better than I thought' (But from experiience I know that I better not over-listening in order keep the fascination)
The other day I saw "Streets of Love" from youtube. Not ever been that big favourite of mine - and just think its reputation among diehards here - but to me it sounded a well-written tune with a catchy chorus (and I don't wonder why it get such a warm reception when they rarely played live in Europe - although Mick didn't make notes I guess...).
Then I went to listen A BIGGER BANG more closely. "Rough Justice" is so generic as a Stones rocker can be, but shit, it sounds energetic and good. "Back of My Hand" is a mother of all blues pastishes, but totally irrestible to my ears. I've always have thought that "Biggest Mistake" is a hidden gem, and yeah, it is a well-written, melodic piece from a classical singer song-writer tradition and Mick shares us a good story there. Also in "Laugh I Nearly Died" Mick is in a good shape, putting some true effort. "Sweet Neo-Con" is a joke, but it made me smile. Surely the album is a way too long, and having a bit too many boring rockers (I guess that makes it is a pretty demanding listening experience from start to finish), and Keith's tunes are his worst, but it not a bad album by any means. But I know, like I noted already, from experience that I better to keep it that way: not to over-play the album to lost the 'magic'. Probably the problem with especially the pretty one-dimensional rockers like "Oh No Not You Again", "Driving Too Fast", "It Won't Take Long", "Dangerous Beauty", etc. is a bit thin band effort. It is pretty raw and straight-in-to-your-face, too obvious, not leaving traces of depthness like they old things did. I mean, listening to EMOTIONAL RESCUE, UNDERCOVER, even DIRTY WORK in pieces, and despite the tunes not that memorable either, the band is just so hot, a crazy unpredictable, but but still cohesive unit. And yeah, Mick Jagger is no Bill Wyman...
So as far as I am concerned, give me A BIGGER BANG VOL.2 anytime. It surely wouldn't hurt having one in every 17 years... (to make it clear, the point of my post above more like trying to make sense of the unproductivity from their perspective, not from a hardcore fan's like me).
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bye bye johnny
From The Sun, February 1:
Ronnie also revealed the group were planning a tour around Europe in the coming months and were putting live music above their hotly anticipated new record.
He said of the album: “It’s coming along slowly. It’s the gaps in between that eat up all the time. It is a matter of getting us all together again. “Everyone is in a different part of the world.
"So instead of putting emphasis on rushing an album, we’re doing the opposite and taking a really long time. And we’re putting live shows first.”
[www.the-sun.com]
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And yes, Keith's entries were pretty weak. I don't even remember what they are. I'd be curious to know if he's still capable of writing a good song. It's been quite a while.
It's just lip service. Led Zeppelin recorded the bulk of their second album while on tour. Okay granted, they weren't guys approaching 80, but I digress. I don't think we'll ever see another album. These guys are masters at drip feeding just enough to the press without actually revealing anything of substance.Quote
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bye bye johnny
From The Sun, February 1:
Ronnie also revealed the group were planning a tour around Europe in the coming months and were putting live music above their hotly anticipated new record.
He said of the album: “It’s coming along slowly. It’s the gaps in between that eat up all the time. It is a matter of getting us all together again. “Everyone is in a different part of the world.
"So instead of putting emphasis on rushing an album, we’re doing the opposite and taking a really long time. And we’re putting live shows first.”
[www.the-sun.com]
Yeah, because, God bless him, Charlie's passing doesn't tell them that TIME IS (NOT) ON OUR SIDE...
Didn't they record A Bigger Bang from all points in the globe using...you know...technology? Or was it Voodoo Lounge?
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Didn't they record A Bigger Bang from all points in the globe using...you know...technology? Or was it Voodoo Lounge?
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DandelionPowderman
It's been so long since they recorded a new album, so I guess they never utilised the technology available to record that way - not for a released album anyway
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bitusa2012
Didn't they record A Bigger Bang from all points in the globe using...you know...technology? Or was it Voodoo Lounge?
ABB was recorded at Mick's home studio in France. VL in Ronnie's home studio in Ireland + in Barbados.
It's been so long since they recorded a new album, so I guess they never utilised the technology available to record that way - not for a released album anyway
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I was sure I read somewhere that A Bigger Bang was primarily recorded by Mick and Keith and the others simply emailed in their parts...
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I was sure I read somewhere that A Bigger Bang was primarily recorded by Mick and Keith and the others simply emailed in their parts...
They did email Charlie what they were working on, for listening. However, both Charlie and Ronnie came down and recorded their parts.
From timeisonourside:
Mick and Keith are getting on very well at the moment. I think it was the way this record was done - simply. Even when I came back, it was simple. For a while it was just the three of us.
- Charlie Watts, July 2005
In the studio, Keith and I are not in the same room together. I'm usually with Mick and Don Was. Keith will often do his bits first. But One-Take Ronnie - that's what they call me. I'm always better on the first take. They'll play me the song, then they'll play it again for me to play on, and I'll do my thing: a lick here, a lick there, and sometimes bring in the slide. The new album was so improvised. I did all my overdubs in four days.
- Ron Wood, July 2005