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And we all need something to do while being "locked away".
This is all so Strawberry Alarm Clock.
I don't know about Keith, but for a man of his late seventies Mick sounds to be still rather active creatively. Writes all the time, recording a Stones album, finishing up an old re-issue, film projects, keeps his shit together in order to perform, etc. Actually I wonder how much for this 'wandering spirit' it hurts to stay still in one place just by himself or with some chosen ones (if Mustique now is that 'shelter' he has chosen for himself - had he stayed in England, and 'locked up' there, his deadline in three-month tax-free presence might have hit him). Well, at least now he has all the time in the world to write some more songs.
If the released output is a measure, I don't know what way the greatest song-writer of his generation, Bob Dylan, can be seen any more creative nowadays than Jagger? Or that we have a right to expect something from him now? But as far as I am concerned, I'd love to see Bobby using this 'spare time' writing a follower to TEMPEST - personally I would love to have that more than a new Stones album - that creative well to dry would be a much bigger loss than that of Mick and Keith (who haven't released anything significiant for decades, unlike Zimmy). It's been way too many years, although the American song-book stuff has been if not always marvellous but always interesting and eye-opening stuff (but enough is enough - next chapter, please, Bob!)
- Doxa
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2020-03-19 14:50 by Doxa.
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Exactly .. what about downloading the album / songs. It may sell better than normal based on the current situation if it is to be released are restrictions are still in place on half of the things they are right now.
What else are people gonna do? Would a great time to get a new album and spin it at home and talk about it online.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-03-21 18:44 by MrEcho.
I really don't understand where the idea comes from that people in their 70s or older should cease to be creative. There are so many counterexamples! I've certainly said it already, but Elliott Carter only exploded with creativity in his 70s and kept composing into his 104th year (and great stuff, too), Picasso kept painting almost until his last day in his 93rd year, Stravinsky, who died at 89, kept doing things almost until his death, Ernst Jünger kept writing until his end at 103, Friederike Mayröcker, who is 95, still publishes a new book every year, and so on and so forth. Not to forget Leonard Cohen, Wayne Shorter and Chuck Berry.
Health allowing, age is no barrier to creativity!
+1!
The Manifesto of the anti-new album fans!!!
1. the new album is the last of their priorities;
2. releasing new stuff today does not guarantee satisfactory sales;
3. they want to spend more time with their families;
4. No need to publish other stuff at their age ('concept' that i never understood)
5. They don't give a s?$#@ if you want a new album.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-03-22 09:40 by KRiffhard.
That's the best news I've ever heard! Please let that be true.
LOVE & THEFT was released at the same day (minus or plus one) as 9/11 - is Bob repeating the formula here, releasing new stuff while the world is in crisis?
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-03-22 16:16 by Doxa.
Does Word say whether it's originals or covers? - Great news anyway, and hopefully more than just a rumour!
It was actually on 9/11/01...not even minus or plus one! I remember buying it that day.
Don't say that too loud! Some jerk out there will fabricate a connection and spill it all over youtube in no time!
And: [www.youtube.com]
We’ve all bought truck loads of albums from the man with the Union Jack pillow on his sofa.
There are only about 2, maybe 3 other rock and roll acts who have existed on the level of The Rolling Stones.
I’m asking , no I’m begging you guys to quit equating Bob Dylan, Neil Young and all the rest with the Stones.
I really can’t take it anymore- “ Hey. Neil Young put out a new record why can’t the Stones”
Because people don’t argue who’s better “ Beatles or Neil Young” you dig?
There’s a legacy on the line that apparently escapes many of you.
You really think they don’t realize those last few albums were a detriment to the catalog?
Dylan doesn’t sell out football stadiums. As talented as these guys are they’re back benchers. They sell 14 copies of their new record and continue with the tour of Indian casinos.
Mick and Keith have a lot on the line here, Let’s hope they don’t F it up.
Now that's really good news!
The way I got it over the years, Bob doesn't really coordinate release dates with upcoming tours so I have some hope the album will be released whenever it is due to be released despite the present situation.
What's the problem with that?
My guess (or, one of my guesses) is that the long pause since Tempest (i.e. releasing new original stuff) may also have to do with his Nobel prize in 2016.
Can you elaborate please?
No big theory really. If you have received the Nobel prize, there's a heavy weight of expectation on you as to your next work. I might imagine that he wanted (or wants) to wait for things to calm down a bit before releasing new originals, maybe also not to give the impression of trying to make a quick buck out of it and the sales boost effect. Also, seemingly he was totally taken by surprise, going hiding and not letting the committee know whether he would accept the prize or not.
But this might be all wrong, I have no inside intel as what's on his mind.
In the Dylan thread someone said now that there is a consensus among dylanologists that the new Dylan album story is a hoax anyway.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: March 19, 2020 10:57
Quote
jloweQuote
DandelionPowderman
I will (it's too late to stop it now), but I probably don't have common sense
The Entertainment industry will already be looking at Christmas and planning releases on an assumption that the worst of the crisis will be over. And the public may then be very receptive to making purchases.
It's a business, after all.
And meanwhile creative artists, musicians, writers, film people etc will continue to work on their projects (often in isolation anyway) knowing that their work will eventually see the light of day.
Mick and Keith are not actively creative but I am sure we know plenty of musicians who will be making creative use of their unanticipated spare time.
You never know we might see a Dylan release. These guys have home studios after all.
So, not all doom and gloom.
And we all need something to do while being "locked away".
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: March 19, 2020 14:09
Quote
Rockman
…. what about incense ????
This is all so Strawberry Alarm Clock.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: March 19, 2020 14:44
Quote
jloweQuote
DandelionPowderman
I will (it's too late to stop it now), but I probably don't have common sense
The Entertainment industry will already be looking at Christmas and planning releases on an assumption that the worst of the crisis will be over. And the public may then be very receptive to making purchases.
It's a business, after all.
And meanwhile creative artists, musicians, writers, film people etc will continue to work on their projects (often in isolation anyway) knowing that their work will eventually see the light of day.
Mick and Keith are not actively creative but I am sure we know plenty of musicians who will be making creative use of their unanticipated spare time.
You never know we might see a Dylan release. These guys have home studios after all.
So, not all doom and gloom.
I don't know about Keith, but for a man of his late seventies Mick sounds to be still rather active creatively. Writes all the time, recording a Stones album, finishing up an old re-issue, film projects, keeps his shit together in order to perform, etc. Actually I wonder how much for this 'wandering spirit' it hurts to stay still in one place just by himself or with some chosen ones (if Mustique now is that 'shelter' he has chosen for himself - had he stayed in England, and 'locked up' there, his deadline in three-month tax-free presence might have hit him). Well, at least now he has all the time in the world to write some more songs.
If the released output is a measure, I don't know what way the greatest song-writer of his generation, Bob Dylan, can be seen any more creative nowadays than Jagger? Or that we have a right to expect something from him now? But as far as I am concerned, I'd love to see Bobby using this 'spare time' writing a follower to TEMPEST - personally I would love to have that more than a new Stones album - that creative well to dry would be a much bigger loss than that of Mick and Keith (who haven't released anything significiant for decades, unlike Zimmy). It's been way too many years, although the American song-book stuff has been if not always marvellous but always interesting and eye-opening stuff (but enough is enough - next chapter, please, Bob!)
- Doxa
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2020-03-19 14:50 by Doxa.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
IanBillen
()
Date: March 19, 2020 23:04
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
jloweQuote
DandelionPowderman
I will (it's too late to stop it now), but I probably don't have common sense
The Entertainment industry will already be looking at Christmas and planning releases on an assumption that the worst of the crisis will be over. And the public may then be very receptive to making purchases.
It's a business, after all.
And meanwhile creative artists, musicians, writers, film people etc will continue to work on their projects (often in isolation anyway) knowing that their work will eventually see the light of day.
Mick and Keith are not actively creative but I am sure we know plenty of musicians who will be making creative use of their unanticipated spare time.
You never know we might see a Dylan release. These guys have home studios after all.
So, not all doom and gloom.
And we all need something to do while being "locked away".
_______________________________________
Exactly .. what about downloading the album / songs. It may sell better than normal based on the current situation if it is to be released are restrictions are still in place on half of the things they are right now.
What else are people gonna do? Would a great time to get a new album and spin it at home and talk about it online.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: March 19, 2020 23:31
This would be an ideal time to release a couple songs in advance to whenever an album comes out. A little goodwill out of the darkness. If I was in the music business you can’t just wait for Xmas, utterly ridiculous. During these times music means more to me, brings me alive
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: March 19, 2020 23:50
Quote
Maindefender
This would be an ideal time to release a couple songs in advance to whenever an album comes out. A little goodwill out of the darkness. If I was in the music business you can’t just wait for Xmas, utterly ridiculous. During these times music means more to me, brings me alive
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
MrEcho
()
Date: March 21, 2020 18:44
Word is that a new Dylan album is ready for release (recorded in LA in January/February 2020). Unconfirmed, though.Quote
jloweQuote
DandelionPowderman
I will (it's too late to stop it now), but I probably don't have common sense
The Entertainment industry will already be looking at Christmas and planning releases on an assumption that the worst of the crisis will be over. And the public may then be very receptive to making purchases.
It's a business, after all.
And meanwhile creative artists, musicians, writers, film people etc will continue to work on their projects (often in isolation anyway) knowing that their work will eventually see the light of day.
Mick and Keith are not actively creative but I am sure we know plenty of musicians who will be making creative use of their unanticipated spare time.
You never know we might see a Dylan release. These guys have home studios after all.
So, not all doom and gloom.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-03-21 18:44 by MrEcho.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: March 22, 2020 06:52
Quote
Doxa
I don't know about Keith, but for a man of his late seventies Mick sounds to be still rather active creatively. Writes all the time, recording a Stones album, finishing up an old re-issue, film projects, keeps his shit together in order to perform, etc.
I really don't understand where the idea comes from that people in their 70s or older should cease to be creative. There are so many counterexamples! I've certainly said it already, but Elliott Carter only exploded with creativity in his 70s and kept composing into his 104th year (and great stuff, too), Picasso kept painting almost until his last day in his 93rd year, Stravinsky, who died at 89, kept doing things almost until his death, Ernst Jünger kept writing until his end at 103, Friederike Mayröcker, who is 95, still publishes a new book every year, and so on and so forth. Not to forget Leonard Cohen, Wayne Shorter and Chuck Berry.
Health allowing, age is no barrier to creativity!
Quote
Doxa
next chapter, please, Bob!)
+1!
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: March 22, 2020 09:39
Quote
doitywoikQuote
Doxa
I don't know about Keith, but for a man of his late seventies Mick sounds to be still rather active creatively. Writes all the time, recording a Stones album, finishing up an old re-issue, film projects, keeps his shit together in order to perform, etc.
I really don't understand where the idea comes from that people in their 70s or older should cease to be creative. There are so many counterexamples! I've certainly said it already, but Elliott Carter only exploded with creativity in his 70s and kept composing into his 104th year (and great stuff, too), Picasso kept painting almost until his last day in his 93rd year, Stravinsky, who died at 89, kept doing things almost until his death, Ernst Jünger kept writing until his end at 103, Friederike Mayröcker, who is 95, still publishes a new book every year, and so on and so forth. Not to forget Leonard Cohen, Wayne Shorter and Chuck Berry.
Health allowing, age is no barrier to creativity!Quote
Doxa
next chapter, please, Bob!)
+1!
The Manifesto of the anti-new album fans!!!
1. the new album is the last of their priorities;
2. releasing new stuff today does not guarantee satisfactory sales;
3. they want to spend more time with their families;
4. No need to publish other stuff at their age ('concept' that i never understood)
5. They don't give a s?$#@ if you want a new album.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-03-22 09:40 by KRiffhard.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: March 22, 2020 16:15
Quote
MrEcho
Word is that a new Dylan album is ready for release (recorded in LA in January/February 2020). Unconfirmed, though.
That's the best news I've ever heard! Please let that be true.
LOVE & THEFT was released at the same day (minus or plus one) as 9/11 - is Bob repeating the formula here, releasing new stuff while the world is in crisis?
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-03-22 16:16 by Doxa.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: March 22, 2020 16:26
Quote
DoxaQuote
MrEcho
Word is that a new Dylan album is ready for release (recorded in LA in January/February 2020). Unconfirmed, though.
That's the best news I've ever heard! Please let that be true.
LOVE & THEFT was released at the same day (minus or plus one) as 9/11 - is Bob repeating the formula here, releasing new stuff while the world is in crisis?
- Doxa
Does Word say whether it's originals or covers? - Great news anyway, and hopefully more than just a rumour!
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
lem motlow
()
Date: March 23, 2020 10:19
I know they won’t do it but I wish the Stones would sort of disconnect the studio band from the live band.
It already is but I’m not sure they know it. The studio Stones haven’t gotten anything off the launching pad since 05 and the live act has been killing it around the world nearly every year.
I’m not saying go full Brian Wilson but a lot of the people who made those great records are still with us.
You could actually make a song with the Exile line-up for instance. I was in Chicago a few years ago and Sugar Blue was playing clubs there.
Can you image a record with a mix and match of all those sounds?
To be honest, I cringe when I hear reports of “ the new record has some really different stuff on it”
Mick, you don’t have the horses for taking it further, go back.
It already is but I’m not sure they know it. The studio Stones haven’t gotten anything off the launching pad since 05 and the live act has been killing it around the world nearly every year.
I’m not saying go full Brian Wilson but a lot of the people who made those great records are still with us.
You could actually make a song with the Exile line-up for instance. I was in Chicago a few years ago and Sugar Blue was playing clubs there.
Can you image a record with a mix and match of all those sounds?
To be honest, I cringe when I hear reports of “ the new record has some really different stuff on it”
Mick, you don’t have the horses for taking it further, go back.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: March 24, 2020 06:02
Live band vs. studio band? Reminds me of Miles Davis, who had such an arrangement for quite some time. In his later years, it would have been nice to get a studio album with his live band (although, after the mid-80s his live stuff wasn't so great either...).
Just hope that once the new Stones album is out, all involved will be available for extensive interviews. The resulting stuff should be good for half a ton of psychology PhD theses ...
Just hope that once the new Stones album is out, all involved will be available for extensive interviews. The resulting stuff should be good for half a ton of psychology PhD theses ...
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
floodonthepage
()
Date: March 24, 2020 06:30
Quote
DoxaQuote
MrEcho
Word is that a new Dylan album is ready for release (recorded in LA in January/February 2020). Unconfirmed, though.
That's the best news I've ever heard! Please let that be true.
LOVE & THEFT was released at the same day (minus or plus one) as 9/11 - is Bob repeating the formula here, releasing new stuff while the world is in crisis?
- Doxa
It was actually on 9/11/01...not even minus or plus one! I remember buying it that day.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: March 24, 2020 06:44
Love & Theft, was it an 'inside job'
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: March 24, 2020 06:48
Quote
Nikkei
Love & Theft, was it an 'inside job'
Don't say that too loud! Some jerk out there will fabricate a connection and spill it all over youtube in no time!
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: March 24, 2020 15:59
release it as it call it da quarantine blues
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
NilsHolgersson
()
Date: March 24, 2020 16:23
Quote
KRiffhard
We already have 20 seconds of new stuff in 15 years, so no complaining please.
[youtu.be]
And: [www.youtube.com]
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
MrEcho
()
Date: March 25, 2020 00:17
New originals.Quote
doitywoikQuote
DoxaQuote
MrEcho
Word is that a new Dylan album is ready for release (recorded in LA in January/February 2020). Unconfirmed, though.
That's the best news I've ever heard! Please let that be true.
LOVE & THEFT was released at the same day (minus or plus one) as 9/11 - is Bob repeating the formula here, releasing new stuff while the world is in crisis?
- Doxa
Does Word say whether it's originals or covers? - Great news anyway, and hopefully more than just a rumour!
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
iraq0708
()
Date: March 25, 2020 02:27
Maybe the LP has been finished for a couple years but the band can't agree on the cover photo?! That COULD be it y'know. It really could. Really.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: March 25, 2020 02:39
…. yeah Bill keeps photo-bombin' it …
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
lem motlow
()
Date: March 25, 2020 11:02
Quote
doitywoikQuote
KRiffhard
We already have 20 seconds of new stuff in 15 years, so no complaining please.
[youtu.be]
Would you buy an album by a man who has a Union Jack pillow on his sofa?
We’ve all bought truck loads of albums from the man with the Union Jack pillow on his sofa.
There are only about 2, maybe 3 other rock and roll acts who have existed on the level of The Rolling Stones.
I’m asking , no I’m begging you guys to quit equating Bob Dylan, Neil Young and all the rest with the Stones.
I really can’t take it anymore- “ Hey. Neil Young put out a new record why can’t the Stones”
Because people don’t argue who’s better “ Beatles or Neil Young” you dig?
There’s a legacy on the line that apparently escapes many of you.
You really think they don’t realize those last few albums were a detriment to the catalog?
Dylan doesn’t sell out football stadiums. As talented as these guys are they’re back benchers. They sell 14 copies of their new record and continue with the tour of Indian casinos.
Mick and Keith have a lot on the line here, Let’s hope they don’t F it up.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: March 25, 2020 12:21
Quote
MrEchoNew originals.Quote
doitywoikQuote
DoxaQuote
MrEcho
Word is that a new Dylan album is ready for release (recorded in LA in January/February 2020). Unconfirmed, though.
That's the best news I've ever heard! Please let that be true.
LOVE & THEFT was released at the same day (minus or plus one) as 9/11 - is Bob repeating the formula here, releasing new stuff while the world is in crisis?
- Doxa
Does Word say whether it's originals or covers? - Great news anyway, and hopefully more than just a rumour!
Now that's really good news!
The way I got it over the years, Bob doesn't really coordinate release dates with upcoming tours so I have some hope the album will be released whenever it is due to be released despite the present situation.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: March 25, 2020 16:14
Quote
doitywoikQuote
KRiffhard
We already have 20 seconds of new stuff in 15 years, so no complaining please.
[youtu.be]
Would you buy an album by a man who has a Union Jack pillow on his sofa?
What's the problem with that?
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: March 25, 2020 19:58
Quote
iraq0708
Maybe the LP has been finished for a couple years but the band can't agree on the cover photo?! That COULD be it y'know. It really could. Really.
My guess (or, one of my guesses) is that the long pause since Tempest (i.e. releasing new original stuff) may also have to do with his Nobel prize in 2016.
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
jlowe
()
Date: March 26, 2020 00:10
Quote
doitywoikQuote
iraq0708
Maybe the LP has been finished for a couple years but the band can't agree on the cover photo?! That COULD be it y'know. It really could. Really.
My guess (or, one of my guesses) is that the long pause since Tempest (i.e. releasing new original stuff) may also have to do with his Nobel prize in 2016.
Can you elaborate please?
Re: New Stones album for 2020?
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: March 26, 2020 04:06
Quote
jloweQuote
doitywoikQuote
iraq0708
Maybe the LP has been finished for a couple years but the band can't agree on the cover photo?! That COULD be it y'know. It really could. Really.
My guess (or, one of my guesses) is that the long pause since Tempest (i.e. releasing new original stuff) may also have to do with his Nobel prize in 2016.
Can you elaborate please?
No big theory really. If you have received the Nobel prize, there's a heavy weight of expectation on you as to your next work. I might imagine that he wanted (or wants) to wait for things to calm down a bit before releasing new originals, maybe also not to give the impression of trying to make a quick buck out of it and the sales boost effect. Also, seemingly he was totally taken by surprise, going hiding and not letting the committee know whether he would accept the prize or not.
But this might be all wrong, I have no inside intel as what's on his mind.
In the Dylan thread someone said now that there is a consensus among dylanologists that the new Dylan album story is a hoax anyway.
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