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Palace Revolution 2000
We're going to buy the album; it's going to be us, and probably not too many others.
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Big Al
Could the success of Blue & Lonesome be partly due to a sense that they’re a little more en vogue these day’s? I’ve often felt that, over the last decade, there’s been a growing nostalgia and recognition for and of the Stones. This - in my opinion - wasn’t quite there for the releases of Bridges to Babylon and A Bigger Bang. I think that their 50th anniversary was a turning-point in their popularity, personally.
In a nutshell: I think the Rolling Stones are more popular now, than they were in the mid-2000’s.
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treaclefingers
As a lifelong fan, even I haven't bought the newest live album, GRRR. They've flooded the market with these releases and even if you're of the opinion, 'bring it on', realistically it's hard to get excited about a new release when there is a plethora of releases coming at you all the time, coloured vinyl box sets, boxed singles sets, new SHM catalogue releases, superdeluxe box sets, the live albums. I'm talking since 2009's GYYYO. It's been nonstop. I don't think there is another artist that has had this much material made available.
It's not a complaint, it's great. BUT, supply is clearly exceeding demand at this point. A new album of new material would definitely be viewed differently...with a hit single please.
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Taylor1When I was a teenager in the late1980s, no guy in my school would go to a Taylor Swift Concert.They’d get beat up.It was the Stones, U2, Allman Brothers, Van Halen, Guns and Roses.Ithink she has a huge following of females of all agesQuote
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NilsHolgersson
It could be like Barbenheimer: the release of Taylor Swift and the Rolling Stones new albums in the same week. Fans should listen to both albums back to back. #rollingswift a new viral theme.
Indeed an interesting turn of events in this never ending saga aka the making of the new Stones album...
It seems that either the Stones have to sit it out while Taylor Swift dominates the world, or they attempt a preemptive strike to soften the blow from the Swift onslaught....
The Stones might have done themselves a favor by having Taylor Swift as a special guest on their new album - it could have given them a fighting chance in the charts. If you can't beat 'em, have them join your band.
I'd bet that all the T.Swift fans who are sweeping up her new album would have also picked up the new Stones album just to hear her contribution (s). As a bonus. they might have also become lifelong Stones fans!
As noted earlier, Taylor Swift has performed with The Rolling Stones and Mick Jagger has performed with Taylor Swift. Seems it would have been a win-win situation for both, but even more so for the Stones.
As it stands, it appears the Stones are playing second fiddle to Taylor Swift, and I'm not sure waiting a week or two before or after her release will make much of a difference anyways in the current music climate.
Whatever the case, now back to waiting and wondering what will happen next as the world turns around Taylor Swift.
Hopefully an announcement for the new Stones album next week, otherwise who know what other detours lie ahead.
#rollingswift...
This is truly Taylor Swift's moment. A cultural mega-phenomenon. Check this out:Taylor Swift Unites America
Drew
i assure you she has a very large following amongst teenage boys and young men as well
at least that's what i've observed
Well, it was females who got the Beatles off the ground. They were the vast majority at their concerts. I think the first female concert I went to was Linda Ronstadt in 1978. I was embarrassed for my city, but it might have happened elsewhere. Instead of enjoying her as an artist the men whistled and yelled at her like it was a strip club.
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and on a weird note my 72 year old librarian is a fan and spent a lot of money to see her by herself in seattle and was very happy with her performance
so i guess there's at least some cross generational appeal
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and on a weird note my 72 year old librarian is a fan and spent a lot of money to see her by herself in seattle and was very happy with her performance
so i guess there's at least some cross generational appeal
What has certainly disappeared is the status of rock/pop as the music of teens or young adults only, and the musical generation gap between the younger folk and the parent generation that was still there in the 1970s is gone. Consider that your 72-year-old librarian was in her twenties in the 1970s, so she's already "generation rock/pop".
It also works the other way round. Many young students in my surrounding like Syd-Barrett-era Pink Floyd just as much as some new stuff by people I've never heard of, or the beats of a good DJ. It just seems to me (but this may be a wrong impression) that they are not so much into attending concerts as me and my peers were in our extended youth.
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Big Al
Could the success of Blue & Lonesome be partly due to a sense that they’re a little more en vogue these day’s? I’ve often felt that, over the last decade, there’s been a growing nostalgia and recognition for and of the Stones. This - in my opinion - wasn’t quite there for the releases of Bridges to Babylon and A Bigger Bang. I think that their 50th anniversary was a turning-point in their popularity, personally.
In a nutshell: I think the Rolling Stones are more popular now, than they were in the mid-2000’s.
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doitywoik
Been digging a bit in IORR's history. Check out this [iorr.org], from 1997:
"According to Ronnie (see interview in this issue), the Stones will try to release a new album every 18 months. Well, even if it takes the double, like 3 years, we can live with it, ..."
Appears like this kind of spirit/schedule was lost/abandoned soon after ...
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doitywoik
Been digging a bit in IORR's history. Check out this [iorr.org], from 1997:
"According to Ronnie (see interview in this issue), the Stones will try to release a new album every 18 months. Well, even if it takes the double, like 3 years, we can live with it, ..."
Appears like this kind of spirit/schedule was lost/abandoned soon after ...
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Palace Revolution 2000
We're going to buy the album; it's going to be us, and probably not too many others.
I'm not so sure if it's only the hardcore fans who should be taken into consideration. I may be on the wrong track here, but I think if only the hardcore fans and a few nostalgics had bought Blue & Lonesome, B&L wouldn't have sold so well that it reached top positions in album charts in so many countries. There must have been more buyers than just the hardcore fans. I just have no idea who these others were. --- If anyone did some market research on this, it would be interesting to learn the results.
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MadMetaphoricalMax
It's now time to turn this marvelous 700-page thread of speculation, frustration, and incredibly delayed gratification into an e-book - it'll sell like hot cakes. Or at least rock cakes...
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doitywoik
Been digging a bit in IORR's history. Check out this [iorr.org], from 1997:
"According to Ronnie (see interview in this issue), the Stones will try to release a new album every 18 months. Well, even if it takes the double, like 3 years, we can live with it, ..."
Appears like this kind of spirit/schedule was lost/abandoned soon after ...
He said that ? Really !?
Well if that was PLAN A, then er ... wonder what PLAN B is ? Cos' A sure didn't work out !
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VoodooLounge13
I wonder if a Super Deluxe of B2B will ever materialize. What were these complicated circumstances under which it was recorded? Was it just more of the typical Mick-Keef drama?
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VoodooLounge13
I wonder if a Super Deluxe of B2B will ever materialize. What were these complicated circumstances under which it was recorded? Was it just more of the typical Mick-Keef drama?
The way I understood it, the typical Mick/Keith drama took on a new dimension when recording B2B, with at some point Mick recording with his own crew and Keith recording with his own.
A super deluxe of B2B would be a very cool - and long overdue - thing. Last year would have been a great opportunity (25 year jubilee of B2. The question is just, how much worthwile leftover material from B2B is there left in the vaults. I guess (and so seem to do many more here, the way I remember) that much of it went into ABB and possibly some single b-sides.
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DandelionPowderman
«We don't have that much time left ... »
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VoodooLounge13
I wonder if a Super Deluxe of B2B will ever materialize. What were these complicated circumstances under which it was recorded? Was it just more of the typical Mick-Keef drama?
The way I understood it, the typical Mick/Keith drama took on a new dimension when recording B2B, with at some point Mick recording with his own crew and Keith recording with his own.
A super deluxe of B2B would be a very cool - and long overdue - thing. Last year would have been a great opportunity (25 year jubilee of B2. The question is just, how much worthwile leftover material from B2B is there left in the vaults. I guess (and so seem to do many more here, the way I remember) that much of it went into ABB and possibly some single b-sides.
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VoodooLounge13
I wonder if a Super Deluxe of B2B will ever materialize. What were these complicated circumstances under which it was recorded? Was it just more of the typical Mick-Keef drama?
The way I understood it, the typical Mick/Keith drama took on a new dimension when recording B2B, with at some point Mick recording with his own crew and Keith recording with his own.
A super deluxe of B2B would be a very cool - and long overdue - thing. Last year would have been a great opportunity (25 year jubilee of B2. The question is just, how much worthwile leftover material from B2B is there left in the vaults. I guess (and so seem to do many more here, the way I remember) that much of it went into ABB and possibly some single b-sides.
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VoodooLounge13
I wonder if a Super Deluxe of B2B will ever materialize. What were these complicated circumstances under which it was recorded? Was it just more of the typical Mick-Keef drama?
The way I understood it, the typical Mick/Keith drama took on a new dimension when recording B2B, with at some point Mick recording with his own crew and Keith recording with his own.
A super deluxe of B2B would be a very cool - and long overdue - thing. Last year would have been a great opportunity (25 year jubilee of B2. The question is just, how much worthwile leftover material from B2B is there left in the vaults. I guess (and so seem to do many more here, the way I remember) that much of it went into ABB and possibly some single b-sides.
There is some brilliant stuff on Fully Finished Outtakes that they could use. Sanctuary and Too Tight (with a fiddle!) spring to mind.
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VoodooLounge13
I wonder if a Super Deluxe of B2B will ever materialize. What were these complicated circumstances under which it was recorded? Was it just more of the typical Mick-Keef drama?
The way I understood it, the typical Mick/Keith drama took on a new dimension when recording B2B, with at some point Mick recording with his own crew and Keith recording with his own.
A super deluxe of B2B would be a very cool - and long overdue - thing. Last year would have been a great opportunity (25 year jubilee of B2. The question is just, how much worthwile leftover material from B2B is there left in the vaults. I guess (and so seem to do many more here, the way I remember) that much of it went into ABB and possibly some single b-sides.
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VoodooLounge13
I wonder if a Super Deluxe of B2B will ever materialize. What were these complicated circumstances under which it was recorded? Was it just more of the typical Mick-Keef drama?
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doitywoik
"... the Stones will try to release a new album every 18 months. ..."
Interesting find doitywoik.
If that was written today, it would read: "According to Ronnie... the Stones will try to release a new album every 18 years..."
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VoodooLounge13
Well, that's actually not speaking much to what's left then. I don't really hear many similarities between B2B and ABB. Maybe RFD, but that's about it.