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doitywoik
"... the Stones will try to release a new album every 18 months. ..."
Interesting find doitywoik.
If that was written today, it would read: "According to Ronnie... the Stones will try to release a new album every 18 years..."
Yeah, days turn into weeks, weeks turn into months, months turn into years, years turn into ... what actually? The time period between Stones albums?Quote
VoodooLounge13
Well, that's actually not speaking much to what's left then. I don't really hear many similarities between B2B and ABB. Maybe RFD, but that's about it.
A few years back someone here gave an account of what happened to alleged B2B surplus songs (can't recall whether it was this thread or some other thread), and according to this/these person/s, some of it ended up on ABB etc., but I can't recall which songs exactly. If I happen to dig that thread (or part thereof) out, too, I'll post a link. But I'm not really confident as this was already many years ago.
What's still bugging me after all those years is this follow-up to B2B of which Keith said in 1997 it would be released in 1998. The way I remember the interview, this didn't sound just like some vague idea but rather like the songs were already there. I just would love to know what would have been on that album, according to Keith. -- Why doesn't some interviewer ask him once?
(Of course it would also be interesting to know what Mick would have to say about all this ...)
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Rocky Dijon
... As for MEMORY HOTEL, a source at Virgin had said it was a planned two-part Japanese CD-single for "Memory Motel." The two discs would have been issued separately as CD singles each with "Memory Motel" plus 3 bonus tracks. One of the six bonus tracks was to have been the outtake, "Ever Changing World." That said, Don Was had discussed doing a proper 2-CD set of outtakes from BRIDGES TO BABYLON, VOODOO LOUNGE, and even a bit of STEEL WHEELS. It would have also included some alternate takes such as a straight bluesy version of "Might As Well Get Juiced" without The Dust Brothers' fingerprints on it. Additional overdubs were required to finish some of the material. Allegedly, Keith was up for it, but Mick wasn't. Don has suggested returning to the project to Universal several times over the last few years.
Mind you, others will dismiss all I have said as completely wrong.
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VoodooLounge13
I wonder if a Super Deluxe of B2B will ever materialize. What were these complicated circumstances under which it was recorded? Was it just more of the typical Mick-Keef drama?
You can read about the making of the album here:
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DandelionPowderman
I would buy this release:
Flip the Switch
Anybody Seen My Baby?
Low Down
Already Over Me
Gunface
You Don't Have to Mean It
Out of Control
Saint of Me
Might As Well Get Juiced
Always Suffering
Too Tight
Thief in the Night
How Can I Stop
Sanctuary
20 Nil
High Or Low
Dream About
Desperate Man
Flip The Switch (alternate version)
Too Tight (alternate version)
Lowdown (live)
How Can I Stop (live)
Might As Well Get Juiced (live)
Already Over Me (Live)
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GasLightStreet
The cancelled MEMORY HOTEL 1999 album? I bolded something hilarious about it:Quote
Rocky Dijon
... As for MEMORY HOTEL, a source at Virgin had said it was a planned two-part Japanese CD-single for "Memory Motel." The two discs would have been issued separately as CD singles each with "Memory Motel" plus 3 bonus tracks. One of the six bonus tracks was to have been the outtake, "Ever Changing World." That said, Don Was had discussed doing a proper 2-CD set of outtakes from BRIDGES TO BABYLON, VOODOO LOUNGE, and even a bit of STEEL WHEELS. It would have also included some alternate takes such as a straight bluesy version of "Might As Well Get Juiced" without The Dust Brothers' fingerprints on it. Additional overdubs were required to finish some of the material. Allegedly, Keith was up for it, but Mick wasn't. Don has suggested returning to the project to Universal several times over the last few years.
Mind you, others will dismiss all I have said as completely wrong.
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treaclefingers
As a lifelong fan, even I haven't bought the newest live album, GRRR. They've flooded the market with these releases and even if you're of the opinion, 'bring it on', realistically it's hard to get excited about a new release when there is a plethora of releases coming at you all the time, coloured vinyl box sets, boxed singles sets, new SHM catalogue releases, superdeluxe box sets, the live albums. I'm talking since 2009's GYYYO. It's been nonstop. I don't think there is another artist that has had this much material made available.
It's not a complaint, it's great. BUT, supply is clearly exceeding demand at this point. A new album of new material would definitely be viewed differently...with a hit single please.
I think that live releases from "vintage groups/artists" have become a market (or market segment) quite of its own in more recent times. Just consider the tons of live shows that e.g. the Grateful Dead or King Crimson are putting out in the form of box sets or in release series such as Dick/Dave's Picks or the King Crimson Collectors' Club. Obviously they are being bought and generate at least more revenue than the money it cost to produce them. Also the Zappa people have put out quite some live or other hitherto unreleased stuff in recent years. Compared to all that, the Stones' output of live albums looks rather meagre. (Also I'm not sure if Stones fans would buy umpty-CD box sets of a complete tour.)
The difference is, you won't get a New Album of new material from the Grateful Dead, Frank Zappa or (in all likelihood also) King Crimson. But you can still get a new album of new material from the Stones. I, too, think that that's something to be viewed differently.
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DandelionPowderman
I would buy this release:
Flip the Switch
Anybody Seen My Baby?
Low Down
Already Over Me
Gunface
You Don't Have to Mean It
Out of Control
Saint of Me
Might As Well Get Juiced
Always Suffering
Too Tight
Thief in the Night
How Can I Stop
Sanctuary
20 Nil
High Or Low
Dream About
Desperate Man
Flip The Switch (alternate version)
Too Tight (alternate version)
Lowdown (live)
How Can I Stop (live)
Might As Well Get Juiced (live)
Already Over Me (Live)
You're missing Anyway You Look At It, which not only comes from the B2B sessions but also is a truly great ballad (Keith should have sung it, though).
As for potential B2B leftovers on ABB, I could imagine that This Place Is Empty began its life at the time of the B2B sessions, it sounds like a close cousin to Anyway You Look At It.
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Stoneage
I wonder who is going to take over the brand when the band is gone? I'm sure they will continue to release vault recordings, re-releases and best of albums (and other stuff) for a long time after that.
But I'm sure Sir Michael already has planned the handover. The brand is a virtual gold mine.
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treaclefingers
I don't disagree with you but my point was that with a saturation of live material...so much available, it becomes difficult to sell in big numbers as people are satiated. You might get a novelty release like El Mocambo (and I'm even sure how that sold, presumably well) that would sell well but a Bridges to Bremen or Licks NY...it's not going to have same 'must have' vibe when there are so many other options with 80% of the setlist being the same.
I'm not complaining, just pointing out that these new live releases become harder to sell and the numbers justify what I'm saying.
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DandelionPowderman
I would buy this release:
Flip the Switch
Anybody Seen My Baby?
Low Down
Already Over Me
Gunface
You Don't Have to Mean It
Out of Control
Saint of Me
Might As Well Get Juiced
Always Suffering
Too Tight
Thief in the Night
How Can I Stop
Sanctuary
20 Nil
High Or Low
Dream About
Desperate Man
Flip The Switch (alternate version)
Too Tight (alternate version)
Lowdown (live)
How Can I Stop (live)
Might As Well Get Juiced (live)
Already Over Me (Live)
You're missing Anyway You Look At It, which not only comes from the B2B sessions but also is a truly great ballad (Keith should have sung it, though).
As for potential B2B leftovers on ABB, I could imagine that This Place Is Empty began its life at the time of the B2B sessions, it sounds like a close cousin to Anyway You Look At It.
Yes indeed, a good one! Some of the single remixes could be added, too (ASMB, SOM).
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DandelionPowderman
I would buy this release:
Flip the Switch
Anybody Seen My Baby?
Low Down
Already Over Me
Gunface
You Don't Have to Mean It
Out of Control
Saint of Me
Might As Well Get Juiced
Always Suffering
Too Tight
Thief in the Night
How Can I Stop
Sanctuary
20 Nil
High Or Low
Dream About
Desperate Man
Flip The Switch (alternate version)
Too Tight (alternate version)
Lowdown (live)
How Can I Stop (live)
Might As Well Get Juiced (live)
Already Over Me (Live)
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DandelionPowderman
I would buy this release:
Flip the Switch
Anybody Seen My Baby?
Low Down
Already Over Me
Gunface
You Don't Have to Mean It
Out of Control
Saint of Me
Might As Well Get Juiced
Always Suffering
Too Tight
Thief in the Night
How Can I Stop
Sanctuary
20 Nil
High Or Low
Dream About
Desperate Man
Flip The Switch (alternate version)
Too Tight (alternate version)
Lowdown (live)
How Can I Stop (live)
Might As Well Get Juiced (live)
Already Over Me (Live)
You're missing Anyway You Look At It, which not only comes from the B2B sessions but also is a truly great ballad (Keith should have sung it, though).
As for potential B2B leftovers on ABB, I could imagine that This Place Is Empty began its life at the time of the B2B sessions, it sounds like a close cousin to Anyway You Look At It.
Yes indeed, a good one! Some of the single remixes could be added, too (ASMB, SOM).
And then there is this "Out Of Control (Don Was Live Remix)", a unique live recording from Madison Square Garden, not available anywhere else, not available commercially - recorded live, but audience completely mixed out, that is utterly fantastic & cries for inclusion on such a set:
Virgin ā DPRO-13159
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DandelionPowderman
I would buy this release:
Flip the Switch
Anybody Seen My Baby?
Low Down
Already Over Me
Gunface
You Don't Have to Mean It
Out of Control
Saint of Me
Might As Well Get Juiced
Always Suffering
Too Tight
Thief in the Night
How Can I Stop
Sanctuary
20 Nil
High Or Low
Dream About
Desperate Man
Flip The Switch (alternate version)
Too Tight (alternate version)
Lowdown (live)
How Can I Stop (live)
Might As Well Get Juiced (live)
Already Over Me (Live)
I always wonder how a song like Already Over Me can be so ignored, I think they've played it so few times that it's unfair to me, it's much better than many other famous ballads.
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tomcat2006
I think they should release a live album.
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tomcat2006
I think they should release a live album.
Well we almost certainly WILL get another live album sometime. Of course the date of recording might not be anytime recently...
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tomcat2006
I think they should release a live album.
Well we almost certainly WILL get another live album sometime. Of course the date of recording might not be anytime recently...
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Hairball
Almost four years ago to the day now since Miami '19
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retired_dog
Isn't this thread about the new album? I'm getting confused...
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tomcat2006
Which new album? It's as fabled as Atlantis...
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DandelionPowderman
I would buy this release:
Flip the Switch
Anybody Seen My Baby?
Low Down
Already Over Me
Gunface
You Don't Have to Mean It
Out of Control
Saint of Me
Might As Well Get Juiced
Always Suffering
Too Tight
Thief in the Night
How Can I Stop
Sanctuary
20 Nil
High Or Low
Dream About
Desperate Man
Flip The Switch (alternate version)
Too Tight (alternate version)
Lowdown (live)
How Can I Stop (live)
Might As Well Get Juiced (live)
Already Over Me (Live)
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DandelionPowderman
I would buy this release:
Flip the Switch
Anybody Seen My Baby?
Low Down
Already Over Me
Gunface
You Don't Have to Mean It
Out of Control
Saint of Me
Might As Well Get Juiced
Always Suffering
Too Tight
Thief in the Night
How Can I Stop
Sanctuary
20 Nil
High Or Low
Dream About
Desperate Man
Flip The Switch (alternate version)
Too Tight (alternate version)
Lowdown (live)
How Can I Stop (live)
Might As Well Get Juiced (live)
Already Over Me (Live)
Couldn't one put most of this together using FFSO and various live releases?