The subject of band members recording parts separately has also fascinated me. First of all it turns me off to be honest. From a traditional perspective I see a band working ideas off of each other in a studio. Maybe this also takes a huge amount of time and is probably boring. The modern perspective of recording a persons parts and have them glued together so to speak sounds clinical and impersonal. However, it might also alleviate all the "hanging around" as Charlie put it. The debate is never ending I think. And maybe this is the only way they would agree to make a record these days. Who knows.

I think it is critical songs develop as a band. It is time-consuming and potentially unrealistic at their ages. I'm not a fan of programmed paint by numbers approach because it reduces the band to session men. That said, overdubbing has often been guitar and vocals added separately. I suppose my real issue is the creation and arrangement of the music is hurt when there isn't band involvement.

Isnt it the case that RS recording sessions do generally feature the band playing together at the same time in the same room, and that is particular to the Stones in recent decades - a lot of bands build it up separately. B&L was all the sound of a room, wasn't it? With overdubs, but that's to be expected...

Apologies, duplicate post.



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The subject of band members recording parts separately has also fascinated me. First of all it turns me off to be honest. From a traditional perspective I see a band working ideas off of each other in a studio. Maybe this also takes a huge amount of time and is probably boring. The modern perspective of recording a persons parts and have them glued together so to speak sounds clinical and impersonal. However, it might also alleviate all the "hanging around" as Charlie put it. The debate is never ending I think. And maybe this is the only way they would agree to make a record these days. Who knows.

The biggest aspect of overdubbing, which is what you're talking about, is that things can be worked out precisely. To get it right. It's not the live energy but what's taken into account for the idea. It's tweaking. SOME GIRLS was a lot of that.

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Isnt it the case that RS recording sessions do generally feature the band playing together at the same time in the same room, and that is particular to the Stones in recent decades - a lot of bands build it up separately. B&L was all the sound of a room, wasn't it? With overdubs, but that's to be expected...

B&L was the band. Strings, vocals and drums, live.

Piano: overdubbed.

They'd never be able to work in the studio like they used to.

The days of band members and recording engineers picking their noses and drinking coffee for days on end, whilst Keith mucks about [refining the latest product of five strings, three fingers and one arsehole] are long gone !



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I get the old days aren't coming back. Guess what I should articulate better is the possible fact it's more comfortable and precise for them (or any band) to to take the time to perfect what they like and send it off in a digital file. Maybe it's productive this way. Just a thought. Even still I like better the idea to be in a studio together bashing it out. Okay I'm old

You can be fully confident that the bed of whatever they’ve recorded and will release this fall or next year or whatever will be live off the floor tracks. Of course there will be overdubs. Blue and Lonesome wasn’t all live. Anyway. Everyone is anxiously, sometimes frustratedly, awaiting what is coming. And I still think it’s gonna be better than just good. And I can’t wait to hear even one or two of them live next spring/summer.

From The Sun:

MOVES LIKE JAGGER I’ve known Mick Jagger for decades – here’s the secret to the Rolling Stones’ singer’s incredible fitness as he turns 80
July 21, 2023

"That said, 2023 is shaping up to be another momentous year for rock’s most enduring frontman because the Stones’ first album of original material since 2005’s A Bigger Bang is due in October"

[www.thesun.co.uk]



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From The Sun:

MOVES LIKE JAGGER I’ve known Mick Jagger for decades – here’s the secret to the Rolling Stones’ singer’s incredible fitness as he turns 80
July 21, 2023

"That said, 2023 is shaping up to be another momentous year for rock’s most enduring frontman because the Stones’ first album of original material since 2005’s A Bigger Bang is due in October"

[www.thesun.co.uk]

"the Stones’ first album of original material since 2005’s A Bigger Bang is due in October"

Hope so...and maybe/hopefully a new single in September. The Macca-Stones track would be appropriate whether it's good or bad as it would help stir up interest from the general public and the press.
Or possible the Elton track? That would work just as well. Or the track Bill plays on which would probably be the ultimate choice, depending on the quality of the tune of course.
Or maybe just a solid single featuring the core band of Keith, Mick, Charlie, and Ronnie - pure rootsy rock and roll. Whatever the case, a tribute album to Charlie...fantastic.

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The hope is back!

What ever happened to an announcement around Mick's birthday?

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What ever happened to an announcement around Mick's birthday?

Still possible

Could they, would they drop a new single on Mick's birthday?

The big surprise on Mick's birthday is the 40 Licks release in digital and vinyl:

"To celebrate Mick Jagger’s 80th birthday, Forty Licks will release digitally
on 26 July followed by the physical release on 28 July (pre-order 28 June)".

40 Licks

Is it possible there will be a new album announcement and/or new single on the same day? Possible, but doubtful.
The anticlimactic news last month of the 40 Licks release was like receiving a lump of coal on X-mas when you were hoping for a brand new bicycle.

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YEAH ... try tellin' that to
an Alaskin' kid who's inta charcoal sketching ..... HHHHaaaaaaaaaaaaa



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Forty Licks has absolutely no bearing if they released a new single on Jaggers birthday . FL is readily available in used cd shops. All the songs except 3 ( not even well known hits) are available on multiple compilations. How many vinyl copies are being pressed worldwide? I’m guessing no more than 10,000

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Forty Licks has absolutely no bearing if they released a new single on Jaggers birthday . FL is readily available in used cd shops. All the songs except 3 ( not even well known hits) are available on multiple compilations. How many vinyl copies are being pressed worldwide? I’m guessing no more than 10,000

Don,t forget the Atmos Mix. That will be quite interesting!

I'm not buying the new album in October. I'm waiting for ReelStones' version.

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The subject of band members recording parts separately has also fascinated me. First of all it turns me off to be honest. From a traditional perspective I see a band working ideas off of each other in a studio. Maybe this also takes a huge amount of time and is probably boring. The modern perspective of recording a persons parts and have them glued together so to speak sounds clinical and impersonal. However, it might also alleviate all the "hanging around" as Charlie put it. The debate is never ending I think. And maybe this is the only way they would agree to make a record these days. Who knows.

It's extremely likely that a lot of what you like about The Rolling Stones' albums has been done with what you just described. Although a majority of tracks are recorded live with the band, there have been tons of overdubs regarding guitars, 6 and 4 string, and obviously vocals. Horns. Percussion.

Even their live albums are not live albums. Except for some of the recent VAULT releases.

As I recall, there are 3 versions of Neighbours circulating, the last being the album version - but it you listened to it you'd probably wonder how the hell it became the LP version: after overdubbing, there's editing. And they've chopped the shit out of some songs. You can hear it with headphones but some edits are perfect.

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Forty Licks has absolutely no bearing if they released a new single on Jaggers birthday . FL is readily available in used cd shops. All the songs except 3 ( not even well known hits) are available on multiple compilations. How many vinyl copies are being pressed worldwide? I’m guessing no more than 10,000

Don,t forget the Atmos Mix. That will be quite interesting!

No it won't.

That shit is bad idea.

Oh yes. How dare that Jagger dude celebrate his birthday or even have a birthday if there is no new Stones single or an album announcement. Such a disappointment if that is the case. Even offensive for us fans.

FORTY LICKS? Jeez, that's a middle finger stuff for us fans. Jagger has no right to age after that!

- Doxa

Edited for clarity, apologies.



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I'm not buying the new album in October. I'm waiting for ReelStones' version.

Post of the day already. Brilliant!

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the Stones’ first album of original material since 2005’s A Bigger Bang is due in October"

[www.thesun.co.uk]

Yeah, the Sun, such a reliable source…

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Rocky Dijon
I'm not buying the new album in October. I'm waiting for ReelStones' version.

haha,, good one.

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Rocky Dijon
I'm not buying the new album in October. I'm waiting for ReelStones' version.

Are you waiting for ReelStones' mix or Reelstones' mastering? Because, you know, there are two separate cues depending on your choice. And anyway, did you qualify by consecutive consensus to be enlisted in any of those cues?

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I'm not buying the new album in October. I'm waiting for ReelStones' version.

Are you waiting for ReelStones' mix or Reelstones' mastering? Because, you know, there are two separate cues depending on your choice. And anyway, did you qualify by consecutive consensus to be enlisted in any of those cues?

You don’t know what Atmos is

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I'm not buying the new album in October. I'm waiting for ReelStones' version.

so that is the Atmos 2.0 version and songs being played backwards ?